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Mtbromo
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The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life)
#26952202 - 09/24/20 05:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Bros necromancer tek!!!
How to bring any dried piece of mushroom back to life and grow it again with cardboard and agar.
-Boil some water for 15min pour it into a shot glass and put some glad wrap or foil over the top then let it cool.
-Cut your dried shroom into 5-10mm pieces then put in the now cool water, soak it in water for 2-4 hours.
-Prepare some cardboard, you want corrugated box cardboard just plain colour, get a plastic take away container and cut a piece that fits into the container. Then boil some water and pour it all over the cardboard and put a cup on it to hold it under for a few minutes. after a few minutes the sheets should be easy to peel apart. take it out of the water and let it dry till its just damp, not soaking wet.
-Now take a few pieces of your shroom and place it under the 1st sheet of cardboard you can peel back, put as many as you have to spare keeping in mind to leave some FOR AGAR AS WELL! Then just put the lid on the take away container and put some place dark, once every few days crack the lid for a few seconds to let some FAE, if you wanna be a gangsta you could drill a hole in the lid and put some micropore tape over the hole.
Cardboard for some reason stops most contams from growing unlike agar but myc will grow on it. after about a week white myc should be visable from the hydrated dry shrooms, its a slow process but it fucking works! i've done it dozens of time, now you have infinite samples to put to agar to grow out! Ive had a few cardboard to agar transfers go all the way without contams 1st transfer, also had a few 50/50s.
Other way is just obvious, put the dried hydrated shrooms on agar and they will grow along side contams then cut out a healthy looking piece of myc and put it on agar again and again until its all
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The Mycologist
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26952241 - 09/24/20 06:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish you took pics
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Mtbromo
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: The Mycologist]
#26953066 - 09/24/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How do you upload them here?
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26953646 - 09/24/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Make a post and then hit continue. There is then an option that says load file. I as well would be interested in seeing pictures of this. A number of friends of mine have tried this and failed . Would sure be nice to see it work for someone .
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: MrTheseThings]
#26953708 - 09/25/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Will try upload after work. Its failed a few times due to soaking the dried shroom to long makes it mush. Cardboard being to wet.
90% of the time its worked for me.
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Mtbromo
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26953765 - 09/25/20 01:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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As requested
90 days no issues, unlimited agar transfer opportunity's
Edited by Mtbromo (09/25/20 02:38 AM)
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26953816 - 09/25/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you think you can inoculate a jar of grains with a piece of that cardboard? you think you can drop a piece of a cracker dry mushroom on agar and not only will it grow, but it will not be swimming in bacteria at the least? And you think wet cardboard is contam resistant? If I no choice but to start with a died mushroom, I would swab the gills and streak plate so everything isn't germinating in one spot.
You may be able to start it, not calling you a liar but to proceed with a grow is not worth the time and material loss. I don't buy any of this, sorry bud.
Edited by Nobler Hino (09/25/20 03:41 AM)
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Nobler Hino] 1
#26953838 - 09/25/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LOL!
Maybe read the post before posting.....
Dried mushroom to cardboard, colonized cardboard to agar. Agar to grain once clean pretty fuckin straight forward.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26953915 - 09/25/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Show me a piece of that cardboard on agar after a few days
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26953941 - 09/25/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't take photos in general. At this time the successful agar has gone down the line to Mono's. Happy to show you a mono if that would put your strange judgemental skepticism to rest?
Or maybe just try it yourself as a experiment?
Obviously this tek is just another idea for people who can't get access to prints or fresh mush.
I found myself in that situation and after researching online and getting it to work I thought it might help others
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Nobler Hino] 1
#26953946 - 09/25/20 06:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I’ve seen this as a way to generate wood lover spawn too.
What might be good too is doing a hot pour over that cardboard. Plenty of myc to grow up to the surface and should be much cleaner.
But like he said the whole point is to get a workable culture from dried mushrooms not to use it as inoculation right away. There’s been a few threads about reviving old shroom stems on agar, always interesting to me.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26953956 - 09/25/20 06:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mtbromo said: I don't take photos in general. At this time the successful agar has gone down the line to Mono's. Happy to show you a mono if that would put your strange judgemental skepticism to rest?
Or maybe just try it yourself as a experiment?
Obviously this tek is just another idea for people who can't get access to prints or fresh mush.
I found myself in that situation and after researching online and getting it to work I thought it might help others
I just want to see what that first transfer looks like.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26954090 - 09/25/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit I'll try it, hopefully have time this weekend to start. I got some potent PE I wouldn't mind growing myself! Let me get this straight so I do it right.
-boil water for 15 minutes then pour in shot glass, cover and cool. -add 5-10mm pieces of dried mushroom to cool water and soak 2-4 hours. -Prep some cardboard, put into container, pour boiling water into container with cardboard making sure its submerged for a few minutes. Then peel apart and let it dry till damp. -Put some pieces of fruit between the layer of cardboard, then put lid on and store in a dark place and allow GE by cracking lid or hole with micropore tape. -Once myc starts growing then make transfers to agar and clean any contam.
Let me know if I missed anything!!
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: A.k.a]
#26954099 - 09/25/20 09:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
A.k.a said: I’ve seen this as a way to generate wood lover spawn too.
What might be good too is doing a hot pour over that cardboard. Plenty of myc to grow up to the surface and should be much cleaner.
But like he said the whole point is to get a workable culture from dried mushrooms not to use it as inoculation right away. There’s been a few threads about reviving old shroom stems on agar, always interesting to me.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: The Mycologist]
#26954232 - 09/25/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd love to see others post results if the original poster is not interested in a pictorial showing how that dirty ass cardboard looks on agar. I've seen some people play with wood lover stems like this, and even get to the point of inoculation of outdoor beds. I don't recall them being rehydrated from cracker dry and I never see them throwing the cardboard on agar.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Nobler Hino]
#26954535 - 09/25/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if I could possibly lift? the mycelium off the cardboard onto the agar? then proceed to clean up and transfer until you have a clean specimen. In theory it should work with or without the cardboard going to agar as long as you have mycelium. I have seen some threads about cleaning contam agar and making transfers until contam free. Some of those looked hopeless but they were able to. Not saying Im as good as them, but if I can get some mycelium to grow on the cardboard then it is possible to clean it up until you have a clean plate of mycelium. So the most important part for me is getting some mycelium to grow on cardboard from my dried stash.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Stkn_Hywd_Myco]
#26954753 - 09/25/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep that's it! Perfect. Once you have growth on the cardboard put the cardboard and a agar dish into a SAB/glove box. Get a scalpel and cut a very small section (1-3mm) from the middle of the most white area of myc get some tweezers and gently pick up the pure white sample and place it on the agar. Remember to flame and iso everything like normal.
Grow out the agar, cut out cleanest looking myc around contams and put that to agar,repeat until you have 100% clean agar then put to grain.
You can totally scrap some myc off as well, have done both. I've never tried it but was thinking next time to soak a large section of colonized cardboard in hydrogen peroxide. Then put to agar, apparently it kills contams but not myc?
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Edited by Mtbromo (09/25/20 04:43 PM)
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: Mtbromo]
#26954772 - 09/25/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've tried and failed. I'm certainly not saying you're lying or wrong but you've got to do more to convince folks around here. More details and more picks. Do it again and keep us updated as it goes. Show exact details. How long were they dried and at what temp? How long were they stored?.
I once tried with a piece that was dried at 165 and dried until it refused to loosed more water weight. It did not come back to life on agar. I'd love to find out you're right.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26954792 - 09/25/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I read an article on growing button mushrooms on cardboard, but with live mushrooms. Anyway interesting stuff. Keep us posted.
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Re: The Bro's Necromancer tek! (dried shrooms back to life) [Re: verum subsequentis]
#26954804 - 09/25/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just got 1 dried shroom of a random at a party. Before that I had zero access to anything, no prints, no fresh, no nothing.
Just the will and passion to start a grow from what I had.
I have no idea how old it was or what temp it was dried sorry.
I didn't realize it was a unbeliveavbe thing haha. Its probably people just don't try it very often because its a ghetto way to start compared to having a print.
When you tried it did you do the same things as me?
A few of my attempts failed because I soaked the mushroom to long and it turned into slim. Other times the cardboard was to wet. One time some fucking caterpillars spawned and ate my shroom
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