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ID Help: Found in German Mountains
    #26949663 - 09/22/20 04:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Found in Southern Bavaria, on a mountain (about 1000m), in a forest, next to some decaying tree trunks.

Bleeding is burgundy. Found an older one with turquoise/green bruising and flicked a younger one and got faint bruising after about an hour. After a longer period of time, bruising turned stronger and more green. Odor is pleasant, mild and distinct but nothing I can describe. Very orange spores that stained the  tissue paper I was carrying them in and my fingers (is that a spore print?).

The ones I picked were about 60mm in diameter. I saw a couple in the area that were about 150mm but had been eaten and were falling to pieces. The shape of the caps is overall pretty flat, but indented in the centre and dropping a bit on the perimeter ( a bit like a donut).

Stem is hollow and spongy inside. There is no veil or ring that I can see.

(apologies for the gigantic images)

Looks like some kind of gymnopilus to me, but I have never done this so any advice is greatly appreciated :wink:









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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: wingwangdangalang]
    #26949675 - 09/22/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

lactarius delicioucus or close looks like


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26949720 - 09/22/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I guess lactarius bruises blue/green exactly the same as Gymnopilus. Still have only ever found one in my entire life.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: DubSpore]
    #26949721 - 09/22/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

one lactarius or gymn?


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26949727 - 09/22/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

One gym. Just one big fat solitary gym.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26949739 - 09/22/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

i just saw your id thread. lactarius are always terrestrial i see gymns on logs usually. lactarius are very fragile compared to gymns. gymns feel and look kinda rubbery when moist.
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Gymnopilus finds me. I don't ever find gymnopilus.



pretty sure theyre fucking evil be careful
look near bodies of water on old rotting logs and stumps


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26949753 - 09/22/20 04:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The red stains indicate it's probably not Lactarius deliciosus.  It would be interesting to see one cut in half.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26949779 - 09/22/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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MadMuncher said:
i just saw your id thread. lactarius are always terrestrial i see gymns on logs usually. lactarius are very fragile compared to gymns. gymns feel and look kinda rubbery when moist.
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DubSpore said:
Gymnopilus finds me. I don't ever find gymnopilus.



pretty sure theyre fucking evil be careful
look near bodies of water on old rotting logs and stumps




Care to explain how they're evil?


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: DubSpore]
    #26949927 - 09/22/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The red stains indicate it's probably not Lactarius deliciosus.  It would be interesting to see one cut in half.




is that what it is? something looked a little different. i think some of the ones in ak and n canada boreal forests look like that with the reddishness

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MadMuncher said:
i just saw your id thread. lactarius are always terrestrial i see gymns on logs usually. lactarius are very fragile compared to gymns. gymns feel and look kinda rubbery when moist.
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DubSpore said:
Gymnopilus finds me. I don't ever find gymnopilus.



pretty sure theyre fucking evil be careful
look near bodies of water on old rotting logs and stumps




Care to explain how they're evil?




yes i will give me a few hours i'll brb


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26950313 - 09/22/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

its not a consciousness that's the thing. they just exist. they don't give a fuck, they dont think they just are. to be "evil" like we think of it you have to know right or wrong. they dont know anything so it doesnt make sense. it defies all logic because we dont have words for everything. evil without knowing it. they are not nice things they like to play tricks and they love dead things. they want you dead they want everything dead they love it. they are the biological undead vampirethings of the forest who hide in unseen fortresses and come out to help you die. they don't want to kill you, they just can't wait for you to die they get a kick out of it for some reason i think they miss you


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26950326 - 09/23/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

the mushrooms say come home to mama


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #26950347 - 09/23/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The red stains indicate it's probably not Lactarius deliciosus.  It would be interesting to see one cut in half.




Lactarius semisanguifluus might be a possibility.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26950494 - 09/23/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah these are very fragile, broke when I tried to bruise them.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26950506 - 09/23/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lactarius semisanguifluus might be a possibility.





Yep, I am also thinking these or Lactarius deterrimus. The German wikipedia page on the latter is very in depth. In German, the two species are named after the tree they grow under.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichten-Reizker

L. semisanguifluus grows with pine
L. deterrimus grows with spruce

I think I was in a spruce forest, so I am leaning more towards the latter.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26950543 - 09/23/20 06:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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its not a consciousness that's the thing. they just exist. they don't give a fuck, they dont think they just are. to be "evil" like we think of it you have to know right or wrong. they dont know anything so it doesnt make sense. it defies all logic because we dont have words for everything. evil without knowing it. they are not nice things they like to play tricks and they love dead things. they want you dead they want everything dead they love it. they are the biological undead vampirethings of the forest who hide in unseen fortresses and come out to help you die. they don't want to kill you, they just can't wait for you to die they get a kick out of it for some reason i think they miss you



Those gyms you found on the beach were most certainly evil.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26950608 - 09/23/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ummm. Ok. The way I look at it they're the natural filters of nature. Eating and cleaning up what no one else wants to / can. And gyms specifically grow from wood so I don't see how they would want me dead.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: DubSpore] * 1
    #26950622 - 09/23/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Gyms are like psilocybes evil brother that have no problem fuckin up your whole vibe.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: wingwangdangalang]
    #26950624 - 09/23/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lactarius semisanguifluus might be a possibility.





Yep, I am also thinking these or Lactarius deterrimus. The German wikipedia page on the latter is very in depth. In German, the two species are named after the tree they grow under.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichten-Reizker

L. semisanguifluus grows with pine
L. deterrimus grows with spruce

I think I was in a spruce forest, so I am leaning more towards the latter.




You should try to see whether the latex goes reddish-brown or not.

But L. deterrimus is absolutely a possibility, it's way more common than L. semisanguifluus.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: Anglerfish]
    #26950982 - 09/23/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

No such thing as an evil gymn, just an evil ego.


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Re: ID Help: Found in German Mountains [Re: Moria841]
    #26951082 - 09/23/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

this is their favorite time of year because everything's dying they love it. it makes them want to have sex they are really twisted fuckers. springtime just annoys the shit out of them


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