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OPIOIDS!
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Vid in link.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/browse/associated-press/vs-AA1mSMv
Law enforcement officials arrested 179 people and seized more than $6.5 million in a worldwide crackdown on opioid trafficking on the darknet, the U.S. Justice Department said Tuesday. (Sept. 22)
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That link doesn't work anymore, perhaps you can find a more permanent one.
Here's a news story on it.
https://www.wect.com/2020/09/22/justice-dept-arrested-darknet-opioid-takedown/
I wonder how they found the people.
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If DNMs don’t offer things like fent, dope (getting the latter on onion is a way to avoid dangerous street mixtures, which is def very important) it won’t gain as much heat. I’m tired of these sources going down or exit scamming.
How bout a service for psychedelics, and opis can have their own market, with as much security as possible. I don’t see those cannabis dnms going down very often. How bout one just for lsd/dmt etc?
“there will be no safe haven for drug dealing in cyberspace.”
More war on drugs escalation. This really pisses me off. However i think they’re actually losing their grip on sched 1 drug control. Most people at this point are heavily against raids and similar police tactics.
And of course everything will always be available thru the internet as much as it may piss them off
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Fractal420 said: If DNMs don’t offer things like fent, dope (getting the latter on onion is a way to avoid dangerous street mixtures, which is def very important) it won’t gain as much heat. I’m tired of these sources going down or exit scamming.
How bout a service for psychedelics, and opis can have their own market, with as much security as possible. I don’t see those cannabis dnms going down very often. How bout one just for lsd/dmt etc?
“there will be no safe haven for drug dealing in cyberspace.”
More war on drugs escalation. This really pisses me off. However i think they’re actually losing their grip on sched 1 drug control. Most people at this point are heavily against raids and similar police tactics.
And of course everything will always be available thru the internet as much as it may piss them off
Yep! A totally separate one for "downers" and then another for "uppers", psychs, RC's, etc...I could get into that for sure.
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Opiods create more problems than they are worth.
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Agreed, but chronic pain patients have very few alternatives.
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Yeah that’s why they should be separate and more specialized
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I don't like the fact they're stating online drug ordering of any kind is under fire. It can NEVER be stopped but they can start doing small busts etc....and make it more scary.
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They always do small busts, hey well at least it’s just the opioid dealers
But yeah I don’t like threats from LE either, but how did you think they feel about onion? Lol It still does frustrate me. But I don’t expect them to just fuck off either lol
D E A should not exist
I still think, like in LA confidential, they do want certain amounts of certain drugs on the street
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Agreeed! I say use all those people that have been trained to bust people for drugs to work in addiction clinics etc... and help the people addicted to integrate back into society after legalizing ALL rec drug use. No jobs lost! Also have the drugs dispensed from pharmacies and make it so that they have to be the purest and best form of the drug possible, and have monthly limits.
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tyrannicalrex said: Agreeed! I say use all those people that have been trained to bust people for drugs to work in addiction clinics etc... and help the people addicted to integrate back into society after legalizing ALL rec drug use. No jobs lost! Also have the drugs dispensed from pharmacies and make it so that they have to be the purest and best form of the drug possible, and have monthly limits.

That will lead to abuse of addicts prolly.
But.
This. On the Right. Might have to scroll the pic
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Which jackoff asshole is not wearing the mask? Fuck those guys, all of them! I 1st heard about online ordering back in 02-03, and I ordered from that pondscum guy or whatever it was, my money got taken and I never got a letter or anything, but I was a bit scared for a while. Ended up ordering in 08-09 and got some 2-c-t-21, 2c-e, and 2c-i. I then found them again in 2012 up to now.
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Fractal420 said: How bout a service for psychedelics, and opis can have their own market, with as much security as possible. I don’t see those cannabis dnms going down very often. How bout one just for lsd/dmt etc?
There WAS one such "service." The Farmer's Market aka ("TFM"). And they got royally busted with sentences measured in decades...or have you forgotten?
Yeah, they were a bit sloppy, but you would think that their wares would draw less attention - at least that was the assumption. Turned out to be a false premise and now several guys are jailed for the majority of their young lives.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=34&Number=16098805&fpart=&PHPSESSID=
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I’m very familiar with TFM lol, they went down after adding K and M
When it was just Lucy hash dmt it was all good. Then the DEA went after em, 20 yr sentences, and they were all like 19-21 yo
No actually when I think about all this DNM shit, I compare It all to the simplicity of TFM. The one difference and Mistake they made is letting people pay with PayPal and eventually becoming too trusting of anyone who wants some drugs thru PP. they eventually made you pay with actual mailed cash cause BTC wasn’t too common.
What drew attention, IMO is they were the only such service. In today’s world of “Droog markets” it would be like those cannaBTC sites that never seem to be targeted (not often anyway)
If they didn’t use PayPal and start selling mdma and K they’d be fine. And if SR came out first. TFM never even used the word “drug” so it’s two different worlds. I would freakin love if someone brought that same type of thing back. There are ppl who try usually solo vendors
@Rex yeah 2cx is supposed to have unlimited shelf life so I stocked up on my favs while they were legal. Man you’d get 3g 2ci in 2 days for 90 bucks. Or 5g 2cc for the same price, and 2ce I had my fun with but that shit just went too far lol
I recall someone railing 10mg 2ct2 and yelling out of pain and then saying “holy shit I can’t see through the visuals!” Lol (this was an irresponsible E-head that would take shitloads of rolls every weekend and then nitrous all night lol, and make Kandy Bracelets for people while listening to Pendulum Lol) <still she was cool lol I miss the era
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Fractal420 said: I’m very familiar with TFM lol, they went down after adding K and M
When it was just Lucy hash dmt it was all good. Then the DEA went after em, 20 yr sentences, and they were all like 19-21 yo
One of the guys was from Long Island, NY - probably less than 50 miles from where I live. Shame. The take down of TFM caused me to delete about 70% of my posts and photos on this site. I was terrified they would come after TFM customers. I dumped a lot of really good legit drugs the instant I heard. Buried some, too. I doubt it's still good and I don't have the energy to try and locate it (I have a general, but not highly specific recollection of where)and dig it up just to discover it's all bunk.
Besides, my stash has long since been replenished.
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NB, I think it would still be a cool thing to do just to find out if it's good, you know, like a treasure hunt. You got nothing to lose man! PLEASE do it and post!
I have been putting off ordering for the last year or so because I had an excellent stash as well, but it's getting low and I was going to get back to the DW, glad I waited!
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Fractal420 said: I’m very familiar with TFM lol, they went down after adding K and M
When it was just Lucy hash dmt it was all good. Then the DEA went after em, 20 yr sentences, and they were all like 19-21 yo
One of the guys was from Long Island, NY - probably less than 50 miles from where I live. Shame. The take down of TFM caused me to delete about 70% of my posts and photos on this site. I was terrified they would come after TFM customers. I dumped a lot of really good legit drugs the instant I heard. Buried some, too. I doubt it's still good and I don't have the energy to try and locate it (I have a general, but not highly specific recollection of where)and dig it up just to discover it's all bunk.
Besides, my stash has long since been replenished.
Did you end up getting that DEA letter they sent every member? Omg people were really freaking out, I had never used my address so I didn’t get it but I saw what every person enrolled under their address got
It was a scary worded “call us and give us info cause we know you order drugs” Lol. I had a friend who was from a diff country and he actually called cause he was afraid to get deported etc. but it was only bullshit phishing for info
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They're not playing around people!
https://www.9news.com/article/news/crime/feds-say-colorado-doc-got-paid-to-overprescribe-drug/73-63f793bf-37bb-4b66-bc80-9812366621e3 Feds say Colorado doc got paid 6 figures to overprescribe powerful fentanyl spray meant for cancer patients In the middle of a national crisis surrounding painkillers, one Colorado doctor accepted what the feds say were bribes to prescribe Subsys over and over again.
DENVER — A Colorado doctor faces years in prison for, as alleged in a federal indictment, accepting more than $300,000 in kickbacks for prescribing a powerful and addictive fentanyl spray as part of his Denver-area pain management practice.
The indictment, reviewed by 9Wants to Know, charges Dr. Jeffrey Kesten with 64 criminal counts related to a multi-year effort by Kesten to accept “kickbacks and bribes” from Insys Therapuetics.
Luke Pell on BBVA Music Sessions powered by AXS FEATURED BY The payments from Insys to Kesten took place between September 2013 and December 2015. Federal prosecutors allege Kesten accepted more and more money from Insys as he ramped up writing more and more prescriptions for the drug Subsys. The Food and Drug Administration approved the use of Subsys in 2012 “for the management of breakthrough pain in adult cancer patients.”
Insys’ efforts to pay doctors to write more prescriptions for Subsys are now well documented. In January, a judge sentenced Insys’ founder John Kapoor to 66 months in prison for his role in the scheme.
Credit: AP Insys Therapeutics founder John Kapoor, right, departs federal court Thursday, Jan. 23, 2020, in Boston, after he was sentenced to 5 1/2 years in prison for orchestrating a bribery and kickback scheme prosecutors said helped fuel the opioid crisis. He was found guilty the previous May of racketeering and conspiracy in a scheme where millions of dollars in bribes were paid to doctors across the United States to prescribe the company's highly addictive oral fentanyl spray, known as Subsys. (AP Photo/Charles Krupa) According to the U.S. Department of Justice, “Kapoor hired, or authorized the hiring of, several top executives who became co-conspirators in the criminal scheme to bribe practitioners, many of whom operated pain clinics, to prescribe Subsys to patients, often when medically unnecessary.”
That scheme involved Insys setting up “speaker programs” for physicians around the country to try to raise brand awareness of the fentanyl spray. Yet, far from promoting the drug, oftentimes Insys would pay doctors a few thousand dollars for speaking in front of virtually no one.
In Colorado, according to the indictment, Kesten “was paid to be the ‘speaker’ for 17 programs at which the only attendees were his own staff.”
Despite the charges, as of Thursday, Kesten still has a valid medical license in the state of Colorado, and, according to his own website, had shifted away from Subsys and toward the use of ketamine for pain management.
RELATED: Federal judge rejects pharmacy chains' bid to toss opioid lawsuits
Kesten responded to the charges in a statement Thursday night:
"I am innocent of these charges and I cannot comment any further due to pending litigation, but I would like to comment further at a later time as I am able to do so."
His case is currently set to go to trial in November.
The cost of Kesten’s prescriptions to the state’s Medicaid program and the federal Medicare program ran well into the millions, according to the indictment
In 2017, Colorado’s Center for Improving Value in Health Care (CIVHC) determined 78% of all prescriptions for Subsys in the state were going to patients who did not have a cancer diagnosis.
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Stick to hallucinogens. This song embodies what my generation thought of opiates.
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