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Ice9
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26955431 - 09/26/20 01:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had to knock a guy whose muscles went rigid due to a supposedly shut off live wire, he would died, I smashed him with a 2x4 cause he was locked so rigid. Scariest shit. My friends an electrical engineer, supervisor, but in storms he has to go out with the crews if the doing high voltage work. Watched one of those green boxes arc out past the line workers about 12 feet to sewer grate, melted part of the grate. It's nothing to fuck with.
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Ahab McBathsalts
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ice9] 1
#26955545 - 09/26/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I regularly ground out 34.5KV transformers and work on 230v/400v systems. A couple weeks ago I blew up a 400V breaker and sometimes we blow up a 1000amp busbars. Once and a while I get to go into the 128KV substation. It's wild. 110v is the most common voltage assocated with electrical deaths because it's so widely used and people fuck around thinking they can't get hurt.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26955553 - 09/26/20 04:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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birdeatingspider said: Okay so plug a lamp with incandescent bulb into offending outlets and see if the light dims? They don't turn on, though- they're out, alas used to work.
No circuits tripped, just plugs stopped working in 3 different rooms. While I have yall here, let's see if any of you bright( ) people understand this one!

 Weird wires hanging from side of house, meet the pole on the street. Not sure if you can see, but in the direct center of 2nd pic, the wire is lose and hanging with tree branches.
Is it related?
The top wire is your three electrical lines. Two phases of 120v and one ground.
The bottom wires are cable/internet and telephone
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Baby_Hitler said:

I think everything below the top wire is phone/internet.
Do you see a transformer anywhere?
Do you have phone/internet?
No his electrical lines have the vines growing on them. They’re insulated. Transformer is on another pole.
He doesn’t have any high voltage lines going to his pole. The higher voltage lines are usually two parallel bare wires below the the ground line that is always on the top in case of lightning strikes.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ice9]
#26955559 - 09/26/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: Did you check the ground, I mean the one outside, usually a long steal spike driven in the ground. It has been my experience intermittent failures of electrical sources without tripping breakers are due to bad grounds.
Neutral goes to the center tap of the transformer as well as being shunted to ground, with 120v lines on the ends. Ground is a shunt to earth if there is a short within an appliance. A poorly grounded neutral line will still work because it is connected directly to the transformer.
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Enkidu
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: koods]
#26955577 - 09/26/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its a fucking outlet plug not a transformer holy fuck
It doesnt do shit
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26955581 - 09/26/20 05:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah i guess if youre an inch from death then be careful
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26955584 - 09/26/20 05:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you tried your toaster in other outlets?
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26955779 - 09/26/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Once I wanted to adjust one of my heaters in my house and I really didn't wanna walk all the way to the breaker to just do a quick adjustment, it was 220v and the adjustment started not being as easy as I thought, decided to keep going and one of the bottom of my knuckles came in contact with something live and got shocked with 220v, it wasn't that bad, only a little stronger than 110v imo
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Baby_Hitler
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: budmanman]
#26955797 - 09/26/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It depends on the path it takes through your body.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: budmanman]
#26955800 - 09/26/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your body isn’t grounded then touching 220v mains will just feel like a tingly buzz. If your other arm was touching your faucet or a grounded appliance, you might be dead.
I have an electric fence around my garden. If I’m wearing shoes I can touch the fence and not feel a thing. In my bare feet it’s extremely painful.
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Low voltage is not gonna do shit to a toaster The cycles could be jumping around to much?
Grid frequency will change throughout the day due to imbalance between electricity generation and consumption. Grid operator is obligated to keep the frequency within +/- 0.5Hz of 50Hz (frequency and range depends on the country's grid codes
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Yeah, I can't think of any way a bad outlet could fry a toaster. Even a juicer, for that matter, unless it had some delicate electronics.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26956666 - 09/26/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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could just Be your receptacles they tend to go out after a few years especially in the kitchen and bathrooms. It could also be the wiring if its an old house. If you know anyone you can trust on an honest opinion if your home needs to be re wired then give them a call, I say someone you can trust because if its a random electrical company and you call them out to check that, they will 9/10 tell you you need to rewire your home when you don't need to for the $$$$. If you can pull a receptacle out and check if the wiring is copper then it might need to be rewired. If switches and receptacles keep burning out when they aren't old, the home is old and the wiring is copper as well as abnormally high power bills.. you most likely need to have your house rewired. it sucks I know but it is technically a fire hazard if it need to be rewired, Im not trying to scare you... your house is probably not going to catch fire haha. but receptacles will keep going out. it might fry different appliances and if you do rewire it you will notice your electric bill will be a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Omega] 1
#26956698 - 09/26/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Copper is what we use in wiring these days, I think you meant aluminum
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26956823 - 09/26/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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budmanman said: Once I wanted to adjust one of my heaters in my house and I really didn't wanna walk all the way to the breaker to just do a quick adjustment, it was 220v and the adjustment started not being as easy as I thought, decided to keep going and one of the bottom of my knuckles came in contact with something live and got shocked with 220v, it wasn't that bad, only a little stronger than 110v imo
You got shocked by 120V. You would have to touch both legs at the same time to get the 220V.
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Enkidu said: Yeah i guess if youre an inch from death then be careful
No, you can be in really good shape and still die from 120V if you do the wrong thing. You don't have to be near death, and Koods is right about the neutral going to the center of the transformer. Of course it's an outlet, but the outlet still connects to the transformer because electricity gets power from the trans and only works in a closed loop. Just telling you so that you don't get over confident thinking that you know more than you really do and then end up hurting yourself by trying to work hot.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26957081 - 09/27/20 06:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know i dont know shit.
I also dont work on live wires, i mean whata the point? Im not in a rush.
But i have been shocked maybe 4 times and it was nothing.
I guess people need to be careful, my boss said the same thing "if blah blah blah it can be dangerous"
But i guess im just a fool ya know?
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26957192 - 09/27/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Famous last words.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Lophosaurus]
#26957198 - 09/27/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lophosaurus said:
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budmanman said: Once I wanted to adjust one of my heaters in my house and I really didn't wanna walk all the way to the breaker to just do a quick adjustment, it was 220v and the adjustment started not being as easy as I thought, decided to keep going and one of the bottom of my knuckles came in contact with something live and got shocked with 220v, it wasn't that bad, only a little stronger than 110v imo
You got shocked by 120V. You would have to touch both legs at the same time to get the 220V.
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Enkidu said: Yeah i guess if youre an inch from death then be careful
No, you can be in really good shape and still die from 120V if you do the wrong thing. You don't have to be near death, and Koods is right about the neutral going to the center of the transformer. Of course it's an outlet, but the outlet still connects to the transformer because electricity gets power from the trans and only works in a closed loop. Just telling you so that you don't get over confident thinking that you know more than you really do and then end up hurting yourself by trying to work hot.
Both legs? What does that mean? It was an electric heater on a 220 v circuit, a wall mounted heater.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: budmanman] 2
#26957204 - 09/27/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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240 volt supply is created by combining two 120v wires, 180° out of phase. If you accidentiwlly touch one of these hot wires, you’re only dealing with 120v max in reference to ground.
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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
#26957208 - 09/27/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just FYI if you start smelling a strong fish odor then you better find out which outlet it is fast because that shit will burn your house down real quick.
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Edited by SporeJunkie (09/27/20 09:45 AM)
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