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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 2
    #26951836 - 09/23/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You want someone with a multimeter to see what you are getting at your outlets. I'm guessing it wasn't tripping the breakers at your main electrical panel, but I'd probably start there, someone might have jumped the fucker out or something.

Spend the money for an hour for an electrician to come in and take a quick measurement and look at some panels and terminations. Something is loose somewhere.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26952222 - 09/24/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ahab McBathsalts said:Spend the money for an hour for an electrician to come in and take a quick measurement and look at some panels and terminations.



Spend big bucks to have an electrician take a measurement at one time.  Intermittents will measure good when he measures.  And then go bad later.

An incandescent bulb (monitored while all other appliances power cycle) is a superior diagnostic tool.  Bulb must never change intensity even when central air power cycles.  How much it changes and whether it dims or brightens are significant factors that can then tell an electricians where to look; to find a defect quickly with a meter.

If bulb intensity does not change, then move on to other suspects. Do not even look back.  A resulting conclusion is that definitive.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: westom] * 1
    #26952348 - 09/24/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Okay so plug a lamp with incandescent bulb into offending outlets and see if the light dims? They don't turn on, though- they're out, alas used to work.

No circuits tripped, just plugs stopped working in 3 different rooms. While I have  yall here, let's see if any of you bright(:cool:) people understand this one!




Weird wires hanging from side of house, meet the pole on the street. Not sure if you can see, but in the direct center of 2nd pic, the wire is lose and hanging with tree branches.

Is it related?


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26952372 - 09/24/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Do the wires go to a transformer, or are they lower on the pole?


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26952403 - 09/24/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26952407 - 09/24/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Idk of you have bearings. The last pic has a vine along the lowest line.

Where you see the lightest green foliage is the line from house.

Actually, theres a sevond line below the one. 2 lines from house to pole, one is hanging loose.

Jungle out there


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26952431 - 09/24/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)



I think everything below the top wire is phone/internet.

Do you see a transformer anywhere?

Do you have phone/internet?


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26952585 - 09/24/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wish I had better info for you.. It's hard to discern but looks like the transformer is across the street..

But I noticed all the other houses have the swooping low lines coming from their houses.. I've been wanting to get in that area with the Ryobi, but am afraid of hitting the down wire and it being live. Not to mention the poison forest in there.

I do have phone and internet.

I doubt the hanging wire is related to the dead outlets, the wires have been like that forever, when my grandma was here.

Idk man, thanks for helping:sun:


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26953406 - 09/24/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's a loose neutral or line or a loose merrett. It will be in one of the outlet recepticals or a junction box. You need to find out what else is on that circuit.

If you don't know how to use a multimeter you should get an electrician to troubleshoot it so you don't electrocute yourself.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26953409 - 09/24/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

just hit the main breaker and turn all the power off and start replacing all the bad outlets and their neighboring outlets that still work.

As you do this pull on each wire to make sure it didn't fry in the wall. If it did the wire will literally just pull right out of the wall with ease.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: budmanman]
    #26953419 - 09/24/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ya that would work I guess. It'd be better to find out what else is on the circuit though.

Typically on a home circuit you'd have 15amps. There is more on that circuit besides the 3 outlets. In my province you can have 12. Or mix the lighting circuit in with it. Depending on when it was wired and the electrical code at the time. It could be something else with a hot neutral that that is frying the appliances.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26953426 - 09/24/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nah appliance guy is cray his shits probably fine, but the other guy whos outlets are not working should follow my advice.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26953430 - 09/24/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I've been wanting to get in that area with the Ryobi, but am afraid of hitting the down wire and it being live. Not to mention the poison forest in there.







Don't fucking go near live powerlines with a saw if you don't know the voltage on them. Call your utility and they trim the brush for you.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26953503 - 09/24/20 09:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26953661 - 09/24/20 11:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Did you check the ground, I mean the one outside, usually a long steal spike driven in the ground.  It has been my experience intermittent failures of electrical sources without tripping breakers are due to bad grounds.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Ice9]
    #26953743 - 09/25/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's most likely just bad appliances. My second guess would be a multiwire feed with a neutral problem that is causing you to get 240V instead of 120V. Check outlet for loose wires. Check neutrals and if they aren't twisted together then twist them. Tighten all wires in the panel. Test and Reset all GFCI outlets. Check with power company to monitor your system for voltage spikes. If it is the power company then they owe you for your appliances.

I really doubt it's a ground rod problem. In my 30 years of electrical experience I have never seen an appliance die because of the lack of a ground rod.

Also OP, you don't sound too handy so don't attempt this yourself. If you have a weak heart then messing up could kill you.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26953848 - 09/25/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I work for a construction and remodel company.

Ive worked with some electric, not a lot, but ive worked with live wires. Electric isnt really a big deal.

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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26954032 - 09/25/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

They might of been referring to me?

No, I'm not handy, and I don't plan to go swinging from loose wires, Ahab.  But I will call the power company- it's on the list!


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Lophosaurus]
    #26954219 - 09/25/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Lophosaurus said:
It's most likely just bad appliances. My second guess would be a multiwire feed with a neutral problem that is causing you to get 240V instead of 120V. Check outlet for loose wires. Check neutrals and if they aren't twisted together then twist them. Tighten all wires in the panel. Test and Reset all GFCI outlets. Check with power company to monitor your system for voltage spikes. If it is the power company then they owe you for your appliances.

I really doubt it's a ground rod problem. In my 30 years of electrical experience I have never seen an appliance die because of the lack of a ground rod.

Also OP, you don't sound too handy so don't attempt this yourself. If you have a weak heart then messing up could kill you.





That's what I get for not reading the whole thread, didn't realize it murdered his appliance.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26955275 - 09/25/20 11:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I work for a construction and remodel company.

Ive worked with some electric, not a lot, but ive worked with live wires. Electric isnt really a big deal.

Dick...





No need to be rude and have a bad attitude. From the sounds of your posts you don't know much about electricity so my warning was good.

Electricity can be a big deal, especially when something is wired wrong or when you don't have experience. It can definitely kill you or hurt you really bad.


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