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Electrical outlet and appliance question * 1
    #26949094 - 09/22/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I live in this old ass apartment.

Recently our toaster stopped working. 6 months old.

Today our juicer stopped working. Like 2 weeks old, used probably less than 10 times. No more than 14.

Wondering if the electrical wiring could for some reason be the cause of our appliances going out?

Its the two plugs in the kitchen right next to each other that i would assumer are tied together.

Any thoughts?

Just stupid. Just spent $70 on it so dont really wana spend it again and have it fuck up.

If theres a possibility its the wiring and i can test for it i was going to tell the landlord something to where they replace my shit and either fix the wire or replace anything else that breaks


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26949099 - 09/22/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Posting to follow. I have a few outlets in 3 different rooms die, also live in old home.

I worry about them causing a house fire.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26949103 - 09/22/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It is very likely that poor grounding/shorts are causing your issue. The kitchen should have gfci plugs but sounds like age means it doesn't. Even so gfci is not the same as surge. I would suggest getting a surge protector that sits on the outlet, some even have usb ports for charging which will be a bonus.

https://www.amazon.com/wall-outlet-surge-protector/s?k=wall+outlet+surge+protector

You can buy ground fault testers too, but even so there is a chance the wiring is too old to be upgraded.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #26949104 - 09/22/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Was your toaster some fancy toaster with a computer in it, or something?

Has anything plugged into that outlet ever shocked you?

If it were me, I'd plug a lamp into that outlet with (if I could find one) a regular incandescent bulb in it, and leave it on all the time to see if you're getting voltage spikes.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #26949111 - 09/22/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks guys this is all great info

No pretty sure the toaster was just your normal run of the mill kinda guy

Think it was like $30


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26949123 - 09/22/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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birdeatingspider said:
Posting to follow. I have a few outlets in 3 different rooms die, also live in old home.

I worry about them causing a house fire.



You should have that checked out if you dont feel comfortably doing it. Usually this indicates a wire has become loose and a loose wire can lead to a short which could mean fire or shock hazard.

Replacing a plug is pretty straightforward and usually solves the issue. Anything beyond that requires continuity testers and rerunning wires. At the very least you want to trace back from the dead socket to the hot one feeding it and disconnect the feed so you don't have a live wire with a fault in the wall.

Note: i am not an electrician but i do have a degree in psychics


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26949404 - 09/22/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You know much more than I do, don't mind my complete ignorance!

If I just don't use the dead outlets, is there still risk of a spark flying/fire behind the walls?


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 2
    #26949694 - 09/22/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Rip the walls out and check the wiring:snowman:


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Baby_Hitler] * 1
    #26949736 - 09/22/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
Was your toaster some fancy toaster with a computer in it, or something?

Has anything plugged into that outlet ever shocked you?

If it were me, I'd plug a lamp into that outlet with (if I could find one) a regular incandescent bulb in it, and leave it on all the time to see if you're getting voltage spikes.




Good advice.

My guess is there is voltage fluxing/spiking at the outlets, causing the appliances to overload/short-out. In the electrical biz, its called "dirty power". Its really bad for computers and such.

Try the incandescent lamp trick and watch the bulb. If the bulb dims/brightens randomly, u have a dirty outlet. One solution would be a surge protector power strip for the appliances. There might be even some outlets with surge protection in them....


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26949747 - 09/22/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Meant to ask my boss at work. I was on break and my GF told me about it. But he's a master electrician.

Yeah i second that, need to take care of those outlets man.

Electric is honestly rather simple and straightforward.

Re-running wires in a finished wall could suck

So should i tell my landlord, hey look, your shitty electric cost me 100$


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider] * 1
    #26949799 - 09/22/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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You know much more than I do, don't mind my complete ignorance!

If I just don't use the dead outlets, is there still risk of a spark flying/fire behind the walls?



Hopefully the fault is in the junction box in which the socket is mounted which again would be a straightforward fix. If the fault is in the run between junction boxes then it is a big danger for fire and you would have to rerun new romex from where ever the socket is fed from, i.e. tear open the walls :frown: sorry to say but drywall is easier to fix than burned up loved ones.

One fault in a run will take out all the sockets after it, so it could be one bad plug blew the others. Did they all happen at the same time?


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Sugabearcrisp]
    #26949882 - 09/22/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Can't say with certainty that they both went at the same time- but within the same time period, yes.

I know when I run a lot of electricity my AC unit/lights will slow/dim occasionally. Not sure if it's related.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26950014 - 09/22/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I believe that would be from too much pull on one breaker

Like he said, they probably run one to the other.

You could buy a tester for relatively cheap and see if its live. Try replacing the plug. If not, i think youre stuck chasing the wire to find the issue.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26950033 - 09/22/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe that would be from too much pull on one breaker

Like he said, they probably run one to the other.

You could buy a tester for relatively cheap and see if its live.



Ck for 110 volts first unless you live in Europe:picard:


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26950067 - 09/22/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well i plugged it in and it works.

So.

I think she had it put together wrong so it wouldn't turn on. As a safety precaution type thing


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26950076 - 09/22/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

But idk she told me it was put together correctly when she tried so idk. Guess ill wait since it seems to be working


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26950077 - 09/22/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I just can't see a bad outlet frying a toaster. That sounds more like pole-level shit. or a coincidence. Shitty toaster.

Maybe shitty juicer, too, but there's more that could go wrong there.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: Enkidu]
    #26951139 - 09/23/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If theres a possibility its the wiring and i can test for it i was going to tell the landlord something to where they replace my shit and either fix the wire or replace anything else that breaks



Testing wiring is simple.  Connect an incandescent bulb to that same receptacle.  It must not change intensity even when other appliances power cycle.  Whether it dims or brightens is more facts.  And by how much.  Only then does a fact exist so that informed replies are possible.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26951732 - 09/23/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Posting to follow. I have a few outlets in 3 different rooms die, also live in old home.

I worry about them causing a house fire.





Just replace the outlet dude they're 1 dollar.


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Re: Electrical outlet and appliance question [Re: budmanman]
    #26951804 - 09/23/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:shrug:

Regardless, taking this thread as the sign before something brutal happens, so will get on it. Ya know, instead of wondering.

Thank You everyone for the great suggestions and starting points!:mushroom2:


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