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Mold or Mycelium
    #26948571 - 09/21/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hey guys, lookin for some advice here. I don’t think it’s mold/disease but I just want to double check?



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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26948598 - 09/21/20 10:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, looks environmental to me. Nothing to worry about, and if some mold is capable of growing that fast within/o top of a fruit it's surely something that occurs on extremely rare occasions, I can't even tell you for sure if I've ever even seen it on photos before or not.


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26948612 - 09/21/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I believe I remember having discoloration like that and the consensus was water drops from the lid hit the pins was causing them.


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26948614 - 09/21/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Niceee! Thank you Mateah, ur the man!! 🤙🤙🙏


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: polyflakes]
    #26948636 - 09/21/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I believe I remember having discoloration like that and the consensus was water drops from the lid hit the pins was causing them.




Ahh, Yes! makes so much sense now lol


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26948663 - 09/22/20 12:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

When it comes to water on top of pins and potential harm, it's all about exposure time. Obviously mushrooms grow in the wild where it rains and they've evolved to handle that, but in an artificial environment (tubs) where it rains many times per week (misting) and where the amount of fresh air available is but a fraction of that outside then it's important to make sure that droplets of water don't stay for too long on top of developing fruits. Hard to say what's "too long" but I don't mist any substrate until I have noticed partial/considerable evaporation off the previously added moisture, to make sure I'm not constantly adding more than what has evaporated off.


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26952072 - 09/24/20 12:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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When it comes to water on top of pins and potential harm, it's all about exposure time. Obviously mushrooms grow in the wild where it rains and they've evolved to handle that, but in an artificial environment (tubs) where it rains many times per week (misting) and where the amount of fresh air available is but a fraction of that outside then it's important to make sure that droplets of water don't stay for too long on top of developing fruits. Hard to say what's "too long" but I don't mist any substrate until I have noticed partial/considerable evaporation off the previously added moisture, to make sure I'm not constantly adding more than what has evaporated off.




Alright nice, i'm glad you brought this up. So it sounds like the humidity needs to keep cycling? First and second flushes stayed @ 99% RH so basically didn't mist at all, fanned often tho. I'm guessing because field capacity was too high and not enough FAE. Do you mist the sub after dunking if it looks dry?


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26952338 - 09/24/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I had B+ MS grow not too long ago that did something similar with almost all the fruits.  They grew caps, but then many of the caps appeared as though they were growing a 2nd stipe out of them.  If you search "B+ hats" on here, you'll find a number of threads with pictures similar to your last one.  The first picture looks different from what I had, however.


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26954263 - 09/25/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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When it comes to water on top of pins and potential harm, it's all about exposure time. Obviously mushrooms grow in the wild where it rains and they've evolved to handle that, but in an artificial environment (tubs) where it rains many times per week (misting) and where the amount of fresh air available is but a fraction of that outside then it's important to make sure that droplets of water don't stay for too long on top of developing fruits. Hard to say what's "too long" but I don't mist any substrate until I have noticed partial/considerable evaporation off the previously added moisture, to make sure I'm not constantly adding more than what has evaporated off.




Alright nice, i'm glad you brought this up. So it sounds like the humidity needs to keep cycling? First and second flushes stayed @ 99% RH so basically didn't mist at all, fanned often tho. I'm guessing because field capacity was too high and not enough FAE. Do you mist the sub after dunking if it looks dry?



Fanning doesn't do anything, and yes I always mist when needed :thumbup:


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26955224 - 09/25/20 10:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

alright good to know! FAE seems to be more dialed in. Although monotubs should prolly go into fruiting earlier..having an issue with water pooling on mycelium, mostly on sides due to water dripping down. Hopefully by tomorrow some of that will have evaporated..


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26955263 - 09/25/20 11:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If there's lots of pooling water on top then you can take a napkin and gently dab to suck up the excess moisture.


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26956060 - 09/26/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

is water pooling a result of waiting too long to fruit, varying temps, or both?


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Lectric]
    #26956219 - 09/26/20 02:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

"to fruit" is just an expression that implies that something is being done to facilitate or induce fruiting but the grower has 0 (zero) control over when fruiting occurs, we can neither induce the process nor can we stop it. It happens all by itself automatically when the substrate is fully colonized :super:
Pooling water is because of very high humidity and not so high FAE rates. Increase FAE gradually and observe how the surface conditions react. Looking good :thumbup: Gl


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Re: Mold or Mycelium [Re: Mateja]
    #26956311 - 09/26/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Right, and that's what i meant by fruiting - mainly creating FAE. If FAE had been induced earlier, i don't think there would be as much pooling, or maybe any. Field capacity seems to be dialed in perfectly, so don't think that's a factor. Maybe that's not a factor regardless...first time i mentioned about the pooling somebody recommended to dial back field cap. Now i'm realizing the tubs were just in colonization conditions for too long(16 days). Albeit the field cap was still too high, i don't think that really contributed to pooling.


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