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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948433 - 09/21/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's a shame no one wants to talk about the real issue.  The fact that Trump DOES support mail in voting for ALL who request it, but that he's concerned about Democrats wanting to send mail-in ballots to everyone whether they request it or not.  Since this is something relatively new, perhaps he has some valid concerns.  Thoughts?


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948440 - 09/21/20 08:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's not new, it's been done before, it works, Trump's concerns are stupid.

Go make believe somewhere else. Or, as always, move the goalposts.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kryptos]
    #26948452 - 09/21/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It's not new, it's been done before, it works, Trump's concerns are stupid.



You mean like in New Jersey:lol:


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948458 - 09/21/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You mean like in New Jersey:lol:



Looks like they caught it and addressed the issue. What's the problem?


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948539 - 09/21/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You mean they caught it, and cancelled the election.  Perhaps that's not a problem if it's only the President of the United States?


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948540 - 09/21/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is anyone really surprised Falcon is now defending Hitler? Defending authoritarians is kinda his groove.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: koods]
    #26948544 - 09/21/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Source, or make believe?  Where have I defended Hitler?  Please include a link.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948550 - 09/21/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You mean they caught it, and cancelled the election.



The point is, they caught it.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948556 - 09/21/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Where have I defended Hitler?  Please include a link.




You defended someone who has defended Hitler, and your defense was specific to that person's right to defend Hitler.  Did you directly defend Hitler?  Maybe not.  Still, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck....


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948558 - 09/21/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My point is, the whole election had to be redone three months later.  And we still don't know how that one will turn out.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948560 - 09/21/20 10:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You defended someone who has defended Hitler, and your defense was specific to that person's right to defend Hitler.



Paul Craig Roberts said "No German plans, or orders from Hitler, or from Himmler or anyone else have ever been found for an organized holocaust by gas and cremation of Jews..."

That's not defending Hitler, it's just stating an observation.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26948568 - 09/21/20 10:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's not all he said, though.  He's said much more than that.  He has repeatedly denied the existence of gas chambers.  Denied the systematic murder of jews.  Denied a ton of well-established holocaust facts.  Further, he has, on many occasions, painted Hitler as the victim in WWII.  Defending Hitler has occupied a fair percentage of Mr. Roberts' work product.  You linked an article where he is lamenting the fact that he can't speak his bullshit in some countries.

Now, I'll be the first to say that freedom of speech is, and should be, an extremely high value in a society.  I would, in fact, fight to ensure that Mr. Roberts has a right to speak his opinion.  He is, however, still human garbage who has dedicated a lot of time to defending Hitler, and you've dedicated a bit of time in this thread to defending him and his credibility.  Whether that's out of ignorance, political alignment, or some other misguided reason, it still reflects on your judgment and ultimately, your own credibility.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948593 - 09/21/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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My point is, the whole election had to be redone three months later.  And we still don't know how that one will turn out.



Just because it wasn't immediately caught doesn't negate the fact that it was caught. The system worked.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Enlil]
    #26948601 - 09/21/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dude, I don't have a degree in Paul Craig Roberts history.  All I was arguing is what I was told to read in Wikipedia, which I posted here.

The main discussion in this thread is about the upcoming elections, and the fact that so few people, including yourself, want to comment on whether better election security is a good thing or not.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948603 - 09/21/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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My point is, the whole election had to be redone three months later.  And we still don't know how that one will turn out.



Just because it wasn't immediately caught doesn't negate the fact that it was caught. The system worked.



It didn't work, New Jersey still hasn't elected new leaders.  This would be disastrous for a Presidential election.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948617 - 09/21/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It didn't work, New Jersey still hasn't elected new leaders.  This would be disastrous for a Presidential election.



The vote has been rescheduled. Ideally things would happen faster but investigations take time and it seems to me it's better to thoroughly investigate things rather than rush it. Either way, it's being addressed. Voter fraud happens, nobody here is arguing in favor of it or against election security and it isn't exclusive to mail in voting.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #26948626 - 09/21/20 11:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It seems to me better to prevent this from happening in the first place.  People here are surprisingly quiet about Trumps wishes for better election security.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26948643 - 09/21/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Nobody is in favor of it not being right the first time. I'm sorry not everyone is patting Trump on his back like you would like them to but given his record of not giving a shit about anything or anyone but himself it's understandable for people to be skeptical of his motives.


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26948644 - 09/21/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Holocaust denial takes many forms, but they all serve a common purpose: absolving the Nazis (especially Hitler) from guilt.




To know people's psychological motivations is an incredible skill. Or is that just an assumption?

In the current environment of outrage theater, fake hate has proliferated. Fake hate is something many are reluctant to discuss - because it takes away from one's ability to engage in the fun drama of outrage. If I am a lonely miserable person who has no meaning in my life, am I going to paint Nazi swastikas on a grammar school or a Jewish synagogue? Miserable people often engage in fake hate because it's a very effective way to get the big outrage reaction. It's trolling. And your work gets featured on the TV news as "hate crime investigation" . . .


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Re: DNC Caught Political HeadHunting - Bannon [Re: Kwyjibo]
    #26948718 - 09/22/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Nobody is in favor of it not being right the first time. I'm sorry not everyone is patting Trump on his back like you would like them to but given his record of not giving a shit about anything or anyone but himself it's understandable for people to be skeptical of his motives.



No need to be sorry that Trump is in favor of it being right the first time.


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