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Having small B+ fruits.
    #26948412 - 09/21/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Am getting really small fruits and am wondering what can cause this to happen. Whether its too much light, too little or moisture amount.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948422 - 09/21/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is this like a riddle? I have to guess what kind of method you used, which Tek you followed, what fruiting chamber you fruited in what kind of fruiting regiment you followed things like that? :popcorn:


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: Mateja]
    #26948427 - 09/21/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Is this like a riddle? I have to guess what kind of method you used, which Tek you followed, what fruiting chamber you fruited in what kind of fruiting regiment you followed things like that? :popcorn:




Ah ok.
I am using the PF tek with BRF cakes.
Using a hybrid SGFC/Humidity champer.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948432 - 09/21/20 08:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Depends how the genetics are really. I’ve noticed that B+ does put off some smallish sized fruiting bodies if said grow was done using multi spore and not left to consolidate long enough. Potency can also take a hit when new cultivators rush to get a quick flush. :syringe:


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948437 - 09/21/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Mateah said:
Is this like a riddle? I have to guess what kind of method you used, which Tek you followed, what fruiting chamber you fruited in what kind of fruiting regiment you followed things like that? :popcorn:




Ah ok.
I am using the PF tek with BRF cakes.
Using a hybrid SGFC/Humidity champer.




Ok thank you for those clues, but I'd still like to use a lifeline so I will wish to see a pic of how the micro climate looks on top of the cakes. Here's an example of what kind of photo format I'm talking about, the micro climate on the surface should be clearly visible.



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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: Mateja]
    #26948445 - 09/21/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok thank you for those clues, but I'd still like to use a lifeline so I will wish to see a pic of how the micro climate looks on top of the cakes. Here's an example of what kind of photo format I'm talking about, the micro climate on the surface should be clearly visible.






They have verm on them so im not sure what that would help with.
I let them colonize and consolidated them for around 2 weeks.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948448 - 09/21/20 08:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948464 - 09/21/20 08:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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wish to see a pic of how the micro climate looks on top of the cakes.




They have verm on them so im not sure what that would help with.



That's why I posted two different pics so that you could see the micro climate the cakes both with and without the outer layer (vermiculite in your case and coir in my case which I rolled the cakes in) nevertheless, I couldn't see anything from the pics you posted sry, I'm not bashing your photos I'm giving you tips on how you will get the most relevant advice and raise your chances for success, if everyone can see clearly what's going on with your grow then everyone can help you easier :thumbup:


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948466 - 09/21/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Didnt want to wipe the vermiculite layer off.
And i take no offense at all.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948469 - 09/21/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Didnt want to wipe the vermiculite layer off.



At what stage you mean? You aren't suppose to wipe anything off after you've rolled them in vermiculite and placed inside the chamber. If I saw the current state of your cakes surface I'd be able to tell you much more precisely what you can do about it to improve conditions :super:

The way I took my photos you can easily see the details of what's going on, you don't need to have exactly that kind of resolution but the more is visible the easier it will be to diagnose the issue.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948479 - 09/21/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know but what i was trying to say is that i dont want to wipe the verm layer off to get a good picture of surface conditions.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948481 - 09/21/20 08:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

God bless you lol :lol:
The outer verm layer (the cakes surface) is precisely that which I'm requesting a photo of. That's why I posted two pics so you'd see how a nice micro climate looks with or without the outer verm or coir layer :typing:

Knowing whats going on on the surface will tell how close to/far from optimal the surface conditions are.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: Mateja]
    #26948488 - 09/21/20 08:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948504 - 09/21/20 08:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok now I have 3 questions:

When did you place the cakes inside the FC?
How often do you mist?
How is FAE provided on your setup? (how many holes or how big are the openings on the tub?


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: Mateja]
    #26948513 - 09/21/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Ok now I have 3 questions:

When did you place the cakes inside the FC?
How often do you mist?
How is FAE provided on your setup? (how many holes or how big are the openings on the tub?





Im not quite sure on when i put them in the FC and they are all different stages.
A couple have been dunked to go for a 2nd flush.
I don't mist. I have no holes on the bottom and just pour water into the vermiculite for humidity.
FAE is provided by a fan over holes forming a circle in the top of the FC. The fan is not on 24/7 i just turn it on for a few minutes every hour or less. There are holes on the sides and top. Some are forming a circle for the small fan to sit over when its on.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26948523 - 09/21/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Im not quite sure on when i put them in the FC and they are all different stages.



Were the newest cakes placed inside like 5 days ago or more like 15 days ago?

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I don't mist. I have no holes on the bottom and just pour water into the vermiculite for humidity.



Why don't you mist? Misting is essential unless you've created and are able to maintain a close to perfect environment/climate inside the FC which you obviously haven't. Also did you mean to say that you 'pour' water over the perlite? You don't pour water on the cakes right?

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FAE is provided by a fan over holes forming a circle in the top of the FC. The fan is not on 24/7 i just turn it on for a few minutes every hour or less. There are holes on the sides and top. Some are forming a circle for the small fan to sit over when its on.



This is a terrible idea, I usually say that  a FC should never rely on electric components, unless we're talking about supplementing supplementing the ambient daylight in your grow area with some artificial lighting which is perfectly fine if your grow area is in a really dark spot.

Your cakes look dry to me and it's most likely because you dont mist and you have a fan on near the FC. Remove the fan and give the cakes a mist from at least 2-3feet away and repeat this once or twice a day until you have created a micro climate on the surface that in a way resembles the surface conditions that I showed in the pics I posted. Gl


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: Mateja]
    #26949371 - 09/22/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The fan is'nt directly blowing on them and is only on for a few minutes at a time. Just enough to blow some fresh air in the FC.

The humidity is 99% at all times.
And that cake is not dry it was just soaked for 15 or so hours.


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Re: Having small B+ fruits. [Re: 1kldude]
    #26949476 - 09/22/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sure thing boss :thumbup:


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