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Re: Capitalism, where do you stand? [Re: qman]
#26947826 - 09/21/20 01:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said: Capitalism is an ideal, not an economic system. It's the label given to a human system to justify immoral behavior. When push comes to shove, the "capitalists" want nothing to do with the true components of free markets and they never have.
Capitalism is the excuse to piss on the working class and to justify the incredible economic imbalances that usually result from human greed. I really wish that we practiced "capitalism" because the outcome would be so much better for the vast majority of the population.
It's always been a heavily manipulated form of crony capitalism at work and it only gets worse as the imbalances get even more exaggerated. It's "capitalism" for the peasants and it's "pro-business policies" for The Elite. In other words, no socialism for the working class, but there's plenty for the "capitalists".
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SirTripAlot said: Yes, it comes down to choice, there can be persuasive ads and so forth- but eating that nasty burger could be a need to someone else.
Indeed, and eating a $1 burger is often a need for American citizens. This is because they live under an oppressive system in which the wealthy people who run the companies they work for (who do no labor as far as producing the goods they sell) are allowed to pay them such low wages that they can't afford any food other than a $1 burger.
I anticipate that some might respond to this point by claiming that workers ought to just choose a higher paying job, so I'll respond to that before it even comes up: laborers are not in a strong enough position to bargain for better wages. In a capitalist society, money is bargaining power, and poor people have no money, which means they have no power to bargain for better wages. Furthermore, jobs that pay a decent living (which would give poor people more power) are most often locked behind a college degree, which is not a financial possibility for someone who has no money and no credit score (i.e. for a poor person), so poverty is literally a trap. In a capitalist system, the wealthy are extremely interested in keeping poor people powerless, because they need poor laborers to produce the goods that their wealth is derived from.
The fact that some people need to buy a $1 burger to survive is not a point in favor of capitalism: if anything, this fact demonstrates precisely why capitalism is such an unjust economic system.
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Re: Capitalism, where do you stand? [Re: Patlal] 1
#26947872 - 09/21/20 02:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here's a fucking solution. Tax the FUCK out of the people who make more money to make things even and tax the poorer people less. Also free healthcare and college funded by multi billionaire companies.
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Woah, that was a lot to take in haha
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I think it was relevant to the thread.
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