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Kelazam
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Spore print yield
#26945364 - 09/20/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How many mushrooms can I get to grow from one psilocybe cubensis spore print/syringe?
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26945370 - 09/20/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Infinite. If you know what you’re doing a single print is enough to grow forever.
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Okay sweet, thanks!
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So would I put tiny droplets of the spore water in the syringe into the jars
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26945449 - 09/20/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Read, read, read and read some more.
If you don't know what a single spore print can do, you don't know enough to understand what you're doing. And no one is going to hand hold you through the entire process...
Might sound harsh but people are much more willing to help out people who have done their own groundwork.
You've got nearly 900 posts here so you're clearly used to the site. Spend some time going on rabbit holes.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pearl]
#26945452 - 09/20/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am pretty sure I know what I'm doing but I just want to make sure! I've done many months of research
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26945456 - 09/20/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wasn't sure if only some of the spores would grow or if they have a very high chance of being defective. I read that there are trillions of spores in a single spore print but it really depends on the kind of mushroom. I'll be getting cubensis golden teacher because b+ was sold out
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26945559 - 09/20/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's cool, again not trying to be harsh. I've found that by reading loads of threads, even if they aren't about something I'm working on, little things here and there click into place.
One thing I see people doing is equating spores with seeds or even more broadly fungi with plants. Once you realize that isn't the case, a lot more things will make sense about how you should approach issues.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam] 1
#26945570 - 09/20/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kelazam said: So would I put tiny droplets of the spore water in the syringe into the jars
As another beginner (2 harvests under my belt), here's what (I think) he meant by infinite: it's not so much a question of how much spore water you put into your jars, eventually your syringe will be empty. And you need to put in enough so that colonisation begins. I don't know what's the minimum, but just this week I put 0.7 ml into a jar, and I can already see signs of colonisation. But again, it will be empty at some point, and if you want to continue growing beyond that point, you need to either work with agar, g2g colonisation to always have jars with grain colonised, or learn how to make your own spore prints once your mushrooms have grown. These are just the things I've read so far, there are other techniques like cloning and probably stuff that I haven't even heard about yet. Hope that helps.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kurterino]
#26945574 - 09/20/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Less is more, when doing a inoculation with a syringe. THe less water = the less chances of contamination.
OP - you could also go agar from the start. With that you could inoculate a couple of plate, clean them 3 times and use the 4th plate as a master plate. From that one you can inoculate multiple plates and just expand the culture that way.
Which each plate you can inoculate a jar or a bag.
That's what is ment by a single print will be enough to grow forever.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Thomsen]
#26945777 - 09/20/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I started doing that. Agar to LC to WBS.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: seand04]
#26946222 - 09/20/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another noob question: Could I just use the spore print from putting a cap on tinfoil to then put in a syringe filled with water to make my own spore syringe? What sort of sterilization precautions should I take?
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26946237 - 09/20/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spores -> agar -> grain -> bulk/sub -> mushrooms-> clone and take spore prints repeat.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26946290 - 09/20/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kelazam said: Another noob question: Could I just use the spore print from putting a cap on tinfoil to then put in a syringe filled with water to make my own spore syringe? What sort of sterilization precautions should I take?
You said you have been doing months of research but it sounds like you found out about this hobby hours ago.
Read the teks and don't make spore syringes they are pointless unless you are selling them.
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Make sure you piss in your spore syringe also. It helps it germinate faster in the jars.
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Yeah I joined the shroomery in 2015 or 16 for the sole purpose of growing mushrooms when I was just a kid. I forgot most of the things I learned and have only started researching and learning a week ago.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
#26946362 - 09/20/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I appreciate the help though! I'll try my best and learn a lot along the way too
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee]
#26946381 - 09/20/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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PsilyZee said: Make sure you piss in your spore syringe also. It helps it germinate faster in the jars.
That's a fucking weird thing to say.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Thomsen]
#26947410 - 09/21/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's a fucking weird thing to say.
Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.
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polyflakes said: Spores -> agar -> grain -> bulk/sub -> mushrooms-> clone and take spore prints repeat.
This. You only need a tiny sample of spores to germinate on agar. Once you have clean agar plates you don't need to go back to spores for a long while.
You can make several agar plates which would be enough to inoculate dozens of grain jars directly. Or you could inoculate grain jars, then expand those into more jars with G2G. Then, once you grow fruits, you can take clones and do multiple grows with those clones without ever messing with spores
Then, even if you run out of clones, you can take a spore print and now you have twice as many spores as you started with, so you don't even need to ever use more than that tiny bit of your initial spore print
That's what Pasty meant by infinite
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