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Invisiblebob5

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Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? * 1
    #26946154 - 09/20/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Curious for next time.
Crushed them myself and extracted in a pressure cooker (instant@pot) for 30mins.
The extraction went very well. I tested a second pull with 15mins cook and there is nothing really left, the water is very clear.

Filtering the crushed seeds through a coffee filter is a PITA though.
Looking forward to this. 2.6g Syrian Rue, first time.


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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: bob5]
    #26946182 - 09/20/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I never crushed them. It makes filtering an even bigger pain, and doesn't seem to increase the total yield of alkaloids to an ammount that maintains the extra effort.

:shrug:

Filter the seeds out with a fine colander /kitchen sieve.

Gravity filtering is then a good starting process:
Let the jar stand for two days, to allow the particles to settle down. Then carefully decant the upper clearer liquid.

Cleaning up with an eggwhite:
Take two eggwhites and pour them into the cold brew. Then slowly bring it to a boil, while stirring gently every now and then.
Once hot, the eggwhite will harden /thicken, and collect and keep all the unwanted particles. Filter out the eggwhite and squeeze gently through a cotton cloth.
The liquid will be super clear, excellent to proceed further. :thumbup:

Both methods combined might save many hours of annoying filtering. :smirk:

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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26946190 - 09/20/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Oh that egg white idea is great heheh. I will give that a go certainly.

Glad they don't need to be crushed.. I'm on my second coffee filter for 2.6g and about 200ml of water. Such a faff it's unbelievable. Going about an hour now. How do people enjoy hot coffee with these things?
There must be a better alternative to coffee filters? Muslin cloth, a flannel.. many things I'm sure. Coffee filters are terrible at filtering.:tongue2:

Re cleaning up with eggwhites:
Is this specifically for making tea? Or could it be used if procurring freebase or HCL harmalas?
(wouldn't want egg in the final product)


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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: bob5]
    #26947229 - 09/21/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The egg gets hard and is easy to filter out, first with a fine colander and then go on with a cotton cloth or so.

The liquid gets totaly clear. It will run through a coffeefilter very fast. Perfect to base and precipitate the freebase.

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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26947239 - 09/21/20 06:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What’s the ratio, would it be like 2 egg whites per gallon?


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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26947398 - 09/21/20 08:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Pandemoon said:
The egg gets hard and is easy to filter out, first with a fine colander and then go on with a cotton cloth or so.

The liquid gets totaly clear. It will run through a coffeefilter very fast. Perfect to base and precipitate the freebase.

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How on earth did you come up with that idea? :grin:

Will give your Harmala Tek a try probably this week.


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Re: Do you need to crush Syrian Rue seeds before boiling? [Re: funky123]
    #26947648 - 09/21/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
What’s the ratio, would it be like 2 egg whites per gallon?




Yeah, pretty much this.


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How on earth did you come up with that idea? :grin:





It's not my idea. This method is used in kitchens for centuries, it's the common way to clean up sauces.

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