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larry.fisherman said: Because pedophiles couldn't possibly operate together like any other criminal organization, and Satan is silly so only catholic priests get to do dirty 
Satanic ritual abuse is a myth, unlike Christian sexual abuse. Its added to these false stories to make them edgier. Slimy billionaire pedos or eyes wide shut type orgies, which makes a better story? The satanic panic was a moral panic, there is no vast satanic conspiracy. I have read several gigs of occult torrents, I want to know which book has a child abuse ritual in it? And everything is online now, the rich don't have some secret book, they don't worship Moloch, they don't drink blood, its all nonsense. Rich people are highly unlikley to believe in this bullshit. People who practice occult/satanism are almost never rich,quite the opposite. It just sounds good to say the world is run by Luciferian pedophiles.
There are pedos in all walks of life, the idea the rich ones all collude is not based on facts. I would venture rich pedos are different than poor ones in that they have an entourage to recruit victims like Michael Jackson or R Kelly, or Epstein. Those people keep quiet, no reason to talk. Now if you have a group of 10 pedos all together you run the risk of one of them getting caught and snitching on the others to save themselves. Its counter intuitive they would operate that way. There is no advantage to it and lots of disadvantages.
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Billy Ray said: I wouldn’t call it a leap. There’s a lot of questionable shit that was brought together and explained by pizzagate. I believe there’s an fbi list of code words pedos use and hotdog means boy on that list. There was a lot of these code words in the emails and the language was weird when they were used. Another one off the top of my head was something like, “hey do you want to get a pizza for an hour?” Pizza=girl. http://whale.to/c/pedophile_symbols_and_codes.html
Where on FBI.gov is that list? John Podesta had publicly spoken about his walnut sauce recipe, its not a code word. That list was clearly invented after the emails were read.
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how do you play dominos on cheese or past? That makes no sense. Even the wording of his email is like wtf?
Um that email was sent on Christmas they are talking about playing dominos on top of christmas presents. So what makes more sense the real explanation or your retarded 4 chan shit?
There's no fbi list for those words. I was wrong. It's been awhile since I went down that rabbit hole and I remembered something about an fbi list, but it was about symbols and not words.
I'd still like to know how someone can spend $50,000 on hotdogs.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: Billy Ray]
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That link to symbols is marked spam lol Potential security threat.
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Crazy_Horse said: Why would rich people play dominoes.
I hear dominoes are a lot more fun on PCP and/or cocaine.
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bodhisatta said: That link to symbols is marked spam lol Potential security threat.
Wb this one?
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Seriously_trippin said: Child trafficking is one of the worst activities in humanity. My question is who didn't think it was horrible? Before a few months ago I thought we were all in agreement that child trafficking should be stopped at all costs. What are you insinuating we should do? I'm down to help if I can but shock/rage posts seem to do nothing but give people another thing to argue about. I had a very close friend I grew up with post on Facebook. "I don't know why the fuck you people turn a blind eye to pedophiles and child trafficking" I was like fuck you I've never turned a blind eye to child abuse,trafficking,pedophilia or anything of the sort. It's just fucking strange
Allow me to clarify. It is quite possible a personal event had me subconsciously becoming more upset by this reality(more than usual). Didn't even realize it but now I do, and understand why.
Yes, it's been a longstanding problem in the world, but I feel like there has been an uptick in situations where the veil has lifted, no? There has been more a topic of conversation, media coverage, there have been arrests and rings have been revealed.
Was not intending a debate, or argument. If anything, to stir the pot, perhaps- and give the topic attention. I'm in the process of seeing what I personally can do. Considering going back to school. In the meantime, I'd like other people to not only be disgusted by it, but to take to next level and doing something. Putting pressure on the lawmakers and upholders to do something.
The truth is, Shroomery is a platform. Social media is quite effective in raising awareness and starting a movement.
Wasn't expecting anything by posting. It's something I care about and wanted to share. Last thing I want is to upset you, especially because we're on the same team- and life's too short to get wrapped up in particulars.
What really matters here?
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: Shiithead]
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Eminence said: Adrenochrome can be made even from epinephrine from inhalers I'm pretty sure. I'm sure there's multiple ways to synthesize it. I don't focus on that. But is there any reason to believe that stuff can't go on in secret to this day, since it was already known to be a thing in the past, all over the world? People still believe in "magic" and cultish rituals so it would not surprise me at all.
Synthetic, isomers etc, it will never be the quality you would get extracted from a human.
I guess that's why DMT isn't as powerful when sourced outside the body, right?
You need a little understanding of chemistry, lets take MDMA
Depending on its isomers MDMA may effect you differently, sure it will be similar and your basic user might not even notice the difference but they will in fact effect you differently.
Shit walter white in breaking bad explained this, about that one medication, if the isomers are reversed sure, the medication still works but bam if the girls pregnant her baby will have horrible birth defects if its got the wrong isomer.
Drugs can be the same chemical compound but be constructed into that compound in different ways.
I mean shit mescaline comes out in all different forms depending on how you make it.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman] 3
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Dmt has no chirality all molecules of dmt are exactly the same unless made with different element isotopes. It has no stereochemistry like mdma. There's no isomers of dmt
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Yeah no stereoisomers anyway. Mescaline as well, the isomers that exist are positional isomers. Adrenochrome would have stereoisomers though.
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My comment is less about DMT and more about how human sourced adrenochrome may differ from its synthetic alternatives.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: psi]
#26945849 - 09/20/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: Yeah no stereoisomers anyway. Mescaline as well, the isomers that exist are positional isomers. Adrenochrome would have stereoisomers though.
I looked up some Mescaline extraction techs and each would result in a different type of Mescaline. 4 different types depending on what acid or what ever I would use during my extraction and purification process.
Nothing in this world is ever simple.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman]
#26945851 - 09/20/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just gotta wait now for them bad boys to get big
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman]
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Mr, what's with the soil. Did you stick them in compost and rocks?
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Maybe sopping leaf litter?
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Pea gravel, coco coir and organic version of miracle grow.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman]
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psi said: Yeah no stereoisomers anyway. Mescaline as well, the isomers that exist are positional isomers. Adrenochrome would have stereoisomers though.
I looked up some Mescaline extraction techs and each would result in a different type of Mescaline. 4 different types depending on what acid or what ever I would use during my extraction and purification process.
Nothing in this world is ever simple.
Producing just the desirable stereoisomer of adrenochrome synthetically would definitely be doable though.
I don't know what types you are referring to but there definitely are positional isomers of mescaline, but no stereoisomers (which require a point of chirality). The 2,4,5 version was invented by Shulgin and led to the discovery of the DOx and 2C-x families of drugs.

This type of situation occurs in amphetamines as well as adrenaline and adrenochrome. But not in mescaline or DMT.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: psi]
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These are all different types of mescaline,

They are all extracted or made differently but they are all still considered purified mescaline.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman] 2
#26945882 - 09/20/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are salts.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: budmanman]
#26945889 - 09/20/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah there are different salts of mescaline and it can exist as a free base. Stereoisomers are something different. For a molecule to have stereoisomers, there needs to be at least one carbon atom somewhere in the structure that has four different things connected to it. Mescaline does not have that. In adrenochrome, it's the carbon with the OH attached to it.


In the 3d version you can sort of see an H atom behind that carbon. There would be another stereoisomer that is identical except thatthe H sticks out towards the viewer and the OH sticks out away from the viewer.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: psi]
#26945904 - 09/20/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's what I am saying, if you are a billionaire elite you are gonna want the real deal, you are gonna want true andrenochrome, you don't want some bullshit, you don't want some salts on your andrenochrome or what ever, you want that fresh from a baby skull shit. That good good.
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Re: Child Trafficking [Re: psi]
#26945906 - 09/20/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stereoisomers of drug can have distinct properties (e.g. levoaphetamine is not pharmacologically equivalent to dextroamphetamine). With different salts, not so much. In aqueous solution they tend to dissociate anyway. Though they have different molecular weights which affects dosage. And the free base is suited to smoking with certain drugs (e.g. cocaine).
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