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InvisibleKelazam
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Spore print yield
    #26945364 - 09/20/20 01:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How many mushrooms can I get to grow from one psilocybe cubensis spore print/syringe?


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26945370 - 09/20/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Infinite. If you know what you’re doing a single print is enough to grow forever.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26945373 - 09/20/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Okay sweet, thanks!


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26945433 - 09/20/20 02:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So would I put tiny droplets of the spore water in the syringe into the jars


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26945449 - 09/20/20 02:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Read, read, read and read some more.

If you don't know what a single spore print can do, you don't know enough to understand what you're doing. And no one is going to hand hold you through the entire process...

Might sound harsh but people are much more willing to help out people who have done their own groundwork.

You've got nearly 900 posts here so you're clearly used to the site. Spend some time going on rabbit holes.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pearl]
    #26945452 - 09/20/20 02:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I am pretty sure I know what I'm doing but I just want to make sure! I've done many months of research


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26945456 - 09/20/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wasn't sure if only some of the spores would grow or if they have a very high chance of being defective. I read that there are trillions of spores in a single spore print but it really depends on the kind of mushroom. I'll be getting cubensis golden teacher because b+ was sold out


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26945559 - 09/20/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's cool, again not trying to be harsh. I've found that by reading loads of threads, even if they aren't about something I'm working on, little things here and there click into place.

One thing I see people doing is equating spores with seeds or even more broadly fungi with plants. Once you realize that isn't the case, a lot more things will make sense about how you should approach issues.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam] * 1
    #26945570 - 09/20/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kelazam said:
So would I put tiny droplets of the spore water in the syringe into the jars




As another beginner (2 harvests under my belt), here's what (I think) he meant by infinite: it's not so much a question of how much spore water you put into your jars, eventually your syringe will be empty. And you need to put in enough so that colonisation begins. I don't know what's the minimum, but just this week I put 0.7 ml into a jar, and I can already see signs of colonisation. But again, it will be empty at some point, and if you want to continue growing beyond that point, you need to either work with agar, g2g colonisation to always have jars with grain colonised, or learn how to make your own spore prints once your mushrooms have grown. These are just the things I've read so far, there are other techniques like cloning and probably stuff that I haven't even heard about yet.
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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kurterino]
    #26945574 - 09/20/20 06:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Less is more, when doing a inoculation with a syringe.
THe less water = the less chances of contamination.

OP - you could also go agar from the start. With that you could inoculate a couple of plate, clean them 3 times and use the 4th plate as a master plate.
From that one you can inoculate multiple plates and just expand the culture that way.

Which each plate you can inoculate a jar or a bag.

That's what is ment by a single print will be enough to grow forever.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Thomsen]
    #26945777 - 09/20/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I started doing that. Agar to LC to WBS.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: seand04]
    #26946222 - 09/20/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Another noob question: Could I just use the spore print from putting a cap on tinfoil to then put in a syringe filled with water to make my own spore syringe? What sort of sterilization precautions should I take?


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26946237 - 09/20/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Spores -> agar -> grain -> bulk/sub -> mushrooms-> clone and take spore prints repeat.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26946290 - 09/20/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kelazam said:
Another noob question: Could I just use the spore print from putting a cap on tinfoil to then put in a syringe filled with water to make my own spore syringe? What sort of sterilization precautions should I take?




You said you have been doing months of research but it sounds like you found out about this hobby hours ago.

Read the teks and don't make spore syringes they are pointless unless you are selling them.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26946301 - 09/20/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Make sure you piss in your spore syringe also. It helps it germinate faster in the jars.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26946338 - 09/20/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I joined the shroomery in 2015 or 16 for the sole purpose of growing mushrooms when I was just a kid. I forgot most of the things I learned and have only started researching and learning a week ago.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26946362 - 09/20/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I appreciate the help though! I'll try my best and learn a lot along the way too


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26946381 - 09/20/20 03:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Make sure you piss in your spore syringe also. It helps it germinate faster in the jars.




That's a fucking weird thing to say.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Thomsen]
    #26947410 - 09/21/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a fucking weird thing to say.





Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: polyflakes]
    #26947424 - 09/21/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Spores -> agar -> grain -> bulk/sub -> mushrooms-> clone and take spore prints repeat.




This. You only need a tiny sample of spores to germinate on agar. Once you have clean agar plates you don't need to go back to spores for a long while.

You can make several agar plates which would be enough to inoculate dozens of grain jars directly. Or you could inoculate grain jars, then expand those into more jars with G2G. Then, once you grow fruits, you can take clones and do multiple grows with those clones without ever messing with spores

Then, even if you run out of clones, you can take a spore print and now you have twice as many spores as you started with, so you don't even need to ever use more than that tiny bit of your initial spore print

That's what Pasty meant by infinite


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee] * 1
    #26947428 - 09/21/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That's a fucking weird thing to say.





Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.




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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26947446 - 09/21/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can also have success by taking a chunk of mycelium out of a fully colonized jar, and placing it into another jar. If done in a SAB the new jar should colonize within 2 weeks.

Not trying to be an ass hole OP. But for someone who has been lurking for along time, you ask some pretty dumb questions.

Most of this stuff is in the top of the getting started section.

Learn to improvise. Learn to figure stuff out on your own. Which is what i have done. If you see my posts, ive had to ask no questions at all. Because i read and searched in the search bar everything i needed to know. I also have read these forums for many years since i was a young teen. Im almost 30 now.

Ive had tons of success simply by reading and then experimenting.

But seriously , asking how to make a spore print and how to inoculate jars with a spore syringe, that is like asking where the letter C is in the alphabet .


Click here! Everythng you need to know is here.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26947452 - 09/21/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Pasty hahahahaha. Honestly if i got banned it wouldnt matter, this site is crawling with 3 letter people looking for info to bust people. Which is why im not posting logs or pics. Hearsay all day.
I was joking with OP. But seriously asking questions like that is like asking how to tie your shoes. And im not tying your shoes for you. Figure it out.

All that aside thanks pasty for your contributions to the forums.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947458 - 09/21/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I am pretty sure I know what I'm doing but I just want to make sure! I've done many months of research




The award for worst researcher ever goes to...


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947463 - 09/21/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Kelazam said:
I am pretty sure I know what I'm doing but I just want to make sure! I've done many months of research




The award for worst researcher ever goes to...





Yea i honestly don't even know if we can take the OP seriously . Which is why i added the little piss bit. lmao

But i linked him to all of the TEKs. If it is that hard to retain what you read OP, take notes. But for god sake, please dont waste our time with questions like "what is coco coir?" .


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947465 - 09/21/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You guys make me want to strangle you. Haven't felt that in a long time


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947468 - 09/21/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys make me want to strangle you. Haven't felt that in a long time




Thats messed up, i dont want to strangle you. Id like to see you excel in mycology. But your not going to ever get anywhere if we have to hold your hand the whole time. Read, read , read some more, RE-READ, and then experiment with what you have read. You can do this.

Dont be a stupid monkey, we have evolved to become problem solvers.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947473 - 09/21/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It was one fucking question! Where the hell did you get the idea that I wanted to have my hand held at all? It was ONE QUESTION that I thought I already knew but I still wanted to clarify. You people are assholes that treat everyone like they are idiots and less then you, no wonder I see so many users saying the same thing with very few posts.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947485 - 09/21/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It was one fucking question! Where the hell did you get the idea that I wanted to have my hand held at all? It was ONE QUESTION that I thought I already knew but I still wanted to clarify. You people are assholes that treat everyone like they are idiots and less then you, no wonder I see so many users saying the same thing with very few posts.






Id recommend learning meditation. You seem to be getting a little worked up about some virtual shit that at the end of the day doesn't matter. Good luck with your hobby.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: PsilyZee]
    #26947497 - 09/21/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

PZ, you could stand to relax a little too.

I get it, and I did it myself in the beginning, but banging on people too hard isn't going to be productive for them, nor will it do much for your image here either.

If you truly need to say something to ring someone's bell a little to help them course correct, get in and get out. Engaging at that level to highlight people's personal or even mycological shortcomings is bad vibes. As I said, I've done it, and remind myself not to do so on the regs.

Just my two and a half cents.

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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947508 - 09/21/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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It was one fucking question! Where the hell did you get the idea that I wanted to have my hand held at all? It was ONE QUESTION that I thought I already knew but I still wanted to clarify. You people are assholes that treat everyone like they are idiots and less then you, no wonder I see so many users saying the same thing with very few posts.




Fuck people who makes you feel like that.
Ask what you want and the loseres showing off their small dicks can go piss by a rock.

Keep it up man, you can do it! :rockon:


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947509 - 09/21/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You guys make me want to strangle you. Haven't felt that in a long time




Keep that shit to yourself son...

Nobody cares. This isn't the place for bitch-made feelings like that...





We all good here? I think this thread is done. Monkey out.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947525 - 09/21/20 10:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

let's all just take a chill pill and move on. and no holding hands


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947534 - 09/21/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Thomsen said:
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Kelazam said:
It was one fucking question! Where the hell did you get the idea that I wanted to have my hand held at all? It was ONE QUESTION that I thought I already knew but I still wanted to clarify. You people are assholes that treat everyone like they are idiots and less then you, no wonder I see so many users saying the same thing with very few posts.




Fuck people who makes you feel like that.
Ask what you want and the loseres showing off their small dicks can go piss by a rock.

Keep it up man, you can do it! :rockon:



Thanks man, you're one of the good ones  :rockon:  :rockon:  :rockon:
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Kelazam said:
You guys make me want to strangle you. Haven't felt that in a long time




Keep that shit to yourself son...

Nobody cares. This isn't the place for bitch-made feelings like that...




shut the fuck up. if I want to strangle someone then let me want to strangle someone. it's not like I CAN strangle you or even if I could I wouldn't because I have self control. there is nothing wrong with violent feeling, it's the way humans have evolved and solved problems for literal thousands of years. the real problems root from the suppression of these feelings.
We all good here? I think this thread is done. Monkey out.




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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947543 - 09/21/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:shockedpussy:

did you get an answer. Infinite, right? From a print and some work. Then its just different procedures from there on.

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Re: Spore print yield [Re: McGrimm]
    #26947545 - 09/21/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not sensitive. It's the internet, people can say whatever the fuck they want.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947548 - 09/21/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just couldn't stop yourself 😂

It's okay baby girl. Daddy still loves you even when you throw your little fits.

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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947555 - 09/21/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Bio Okay, so I have been lurking on this beautiful site for quite some time. I first had mycological aspirations back in 2012, but fate would decide that I wasn’t ready. In retrospect, I know that I wasn’t. For a myriad of reasons. It wouldn’t have been good for me, and it wouldn’t have been good for the world with where I was in my life at that time.

However, I have grown as a person and have developed a more finely tuned sense of self, that has led me to feel that the time is ripe to embark on this new, but long desired leg of my journey.

Becoming personally involved with psychedelics has helped to actually cure my PTSD, not mask the symptoms. CURED. Psychedelics have improved my quality of life so immensely that I feel compelled to learn what I can, and help others on this path as a matter of moral responsibility.

Besides, Denver and Oakland just decriminalized this shit, with more of the country sure to follow, so I think it’s time I gave that monkey on my back it’s due. Luckily for me, monkey see, monkey do, and after countless hours of meditation, and personal reflection, that monkey on my back has had his “third eye” opened, and now his credo is to push me to have fun (of course), but to also DO NO EVIL! Good Monkey…

MUAH! 😘




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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947569 - 09/21/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

🙄

Okay sweetheart. Have fun in your very special thread.

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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Kelazam]
    #26947571 - 09/21/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Becoming personally involved with psychedelics has helped to actually cure my PTSD, not mask the symptoms. CURED. Psychedelics have improved my quality of life so immensely that I feel compelled to learn what I can, and help others on this path as a matter of moral responsibility.

Besides, Denver and Oakland just decriminalized this shit, with more of the country sure to follow, so I think it’s time I gave that monkey on my back it’s due. Luckily for me, monkey see, monkey do, and after countless hours of meditation, and personal reflection, that monkey on my back has had his “third eye” opened, and now his credo is to push me to have fun (of course), but to also DO NO EVIL! Good Monkey…







ahahahahahaha, i love this guy. :smile:

Im glad it has helped you as well. Have a good day.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947574 - 09/21/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Seriously I’m gonna start swinging hammers. Everyone give it a rest. Go smoke a bowl or something.


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Re: Spore print yield [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26947582 - 09/21/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Spore print yield [Re: CocaineBuffet]
    #26948252 - 09/21/20 06:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

New member here & new grower as well.  Have my first batch of PF cakes in the SGFC and just inoculated my second batch today.  All using spore syringes.

Why are spore syringes useless?  As a noob I figured making my own spore syringes would be the best way to keep my B+ family alive forever.  What other method should I use?  My guess would be agar but I wanna get more PF Tek batches under my belt before moving forward.

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