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Spirit-Crusher
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Shquonk]
#26905249 - 08/28/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I recently switched to oats because of availability and price. I was buying rye berries whole sale for like $35 per 50# bag. 'Then all my distributors were out of stock. Switched to oats. There $13 per 50# bag.
My stupid simple system. I boil a bunch of water. Then I add my oats right out of the bag. Cover and turn the heat off. Set timer for 40 minutes. When done pour into 5 gallon bucket strainer lined with a laundry bag. Pull bag out and leave over night to dry. If you leave the bags empty enough you can spread them super thin. This is amazing for all kinds of grain. And there's no mess. Super clean.
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Bsdgaou

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I get 100 kg rye for 20 €. I just rinse them, soak them overnight, no boiling. Then PC.
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LotKid
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26905335 - 08/29/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just paid $16.95 per 56 lb bag of rye
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eatyualive
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26905781 - 08/29/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cant beat 12$ for 50lbs of oats. Only other thing locally available other than wbs.
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26905795 - 08/29/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
LotKid said: Fuck oats. Especially producers pride. 
I agree there are some older versions of producer prides oats that are not very good, with a bunch of particulate and dirty/dusty.
This is their newest packaging

Out of 1000s of pounds of it, I have found probably a couple pieces of straw, I could count on one hand. And zero of any other grain, fill a pot up with water and it's literally crystal clear first time.
They work and are dirt cheap, can't say they are the best grain, probably growers preference at that point
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#26905813 - 08/29/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use Producer's Pride and been using them for two years and haven't had any problems. Sure there's dust and dead animals in them (weevils and beetles - yes, insects are animals) but I just boil and sterilize them just like oats and haven't had any abnormal contamination problems. I don't rinse, don't dry, just boil for 30 min where they're plump on the outside and a small dry core inside, dump them in jars and PC them.
I even use my instant pot occasionally to sterilize for 3hrs when I only need 4 jars and don't feel like busting out the presto - my two instant pots are mainly used for boiling grain and sterilizing agar - get shit for review so I only have to pay taxes on them.
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Spirit-Crusher
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26919897 - 09/05/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LotKid said: I just paid $16.95 per 56 lb bag of rye
I can't seem to source mine locally anywhere. I have to order them through Azure Standard and there like 35 bucks for 50#. No feed stores seem to carry them around me. Which seems very odd.
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Nichrome
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Spirit-Crusher said:
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LotKid said: I just paid $16.95 per 56 lb bag of rye
I can't seem to source mine locally anywhere. I have to order them through Azure Standard and there like 35 bucks for 50#. No feed stores seem to carry them around me. Which seems very odd.
Check stores that sell seed to farmers for planting. There is one locally here and they sell organic rye seed for 25 bucks per #. Most of their grain comes from some big grainery in Wisconsin.
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Nichrome]
#26920576 - 09/06/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26940794 - 09/17/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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They even accept bitcoin
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26942312 - 09/18/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Millet G2G Oats is my favorite. Im bouta go buy 200lb of oats... feed store owner owes me one
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maxmush
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Failboat]
#26942861 - 09/18/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Unfortunately i have to take back my virtues of oats. After using them for a while now they have started to become a problem. Very likely due to the local batches i have been getting, but still.
Contam rates are about 10% and I have been doing side to sides and rye and millet are way faster. What takes about 14-20 days for rye and millet takes about 28 days for oats.
This is just my experience (and i did love oats until now - the price especially).
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: maxmush]
#26942884 - 09/18/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just gotta use em as efficiently as possible. Starting with your smallest grain, ideally millet, and ending with the largest grain, common/cheap choice being oats. I do no prep millet pint/quart masters to milo/oat quartd then expand to bags of oats. Two week colonization on expansions.
 Don't blame the oats.
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: maxmush]
#26942927 - 09/18/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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maxmush said: Unfortunately i have to take back my virtues of oats. After using them for a while now they have started to become a problem. Very likely due to the local batches i have been getting, but still.
Contam rates are about 10% and I have been doing side to sides and rye and millet are way faster. What takes about 14-20 days for rye and millet takes about 28 days for oats.
This is just my experience (and i did love oats until now - the price especially).
So... maybe my hate for oats isnt the reason why I'm crazy?
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26943646 - 09/19/20 07:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
LotKid said:
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maxmush said: Unfortunately i have to take back my virtues of oats. After using them for a while now they have started to become a problem. Very likely due to the local batches i have been getting, but still.
Contam rates are about 10% and I have been doing side to sides and rye and millet are way faster. What takes about 14-20 days for rye and millet takes about 28 days for oats.
This is just my experience (and i did love oats until now - the price especially).
So... maybe my hate for oats isnt the reason why I'm crazy?

It's not just oats, I have been having problems with wheat as well. I used to love it, but the starch content is too high and colonisation is much slower than other grains... I found millet to be the best and fastest
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LotKid
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eLeSDenes]
#26943662 - 09/19/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If your wheat is coming out too starchy and sticking together then try boiling for less time and see if it helps.
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scifipirate
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: LotKid]
#26943671 - 09/19/20 07:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do professional cultivators use oats? Then why should you?
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maxmush
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Failboat]
#26943825 - 09/19/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quirkmeister92 said: Just gotta use em as efficiently as possible. Starting with your smallest grain, ideally millet, and ending with the largest grain, common/cheap choice being oats. I do no prep millet pint/quart masters to milo/oat quartd then expand to bags of oats. Two week colonization on expansions.
 Don't blame the oats.
We have been doing exactly that recently. Millet masters and expanding to oats. The oats just dont seem to "take" as well even with this method. Will try 50/50 millet oats next time.
LotKid Oats are making me crazy these days too lol
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: maxmush]
#26943961 - 09/19/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bit off topic, I used several grains (grain parts) for insect rearing in fermenting media. Bran, wheat, barley and oats and with oats yield is way less than with the others. Nobody really used them as part of black soldier fly diets, maybe they are lacking or there is some sort of inhibitor compound in it.
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Podenco]
#26944030 - 09/19/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Personally I prefer wheat, usually it is the cheapest option, has small to medium sized kernels, so lots of surface area for mycelium growth, seems to be very forgiving with cooking/moisture and can be shaken well after PC'ing. So far both actives and edibles seem to like it.
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