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Almost 200k dead from covid-19 1
#26941552 - 09/17/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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And don't forget this is a very likely to be under counted statistic. We, as a nation, as fellow American's, really set the bar for how to tackle a pandemic. We should all feel collective shame at this, it was partly preventable but nope, we still managed to fuck it up and it's only gonna get worse. I'm thinking 400k+ by March next year. Condolences to anyone who has suffered or knows of someone suffering from this disease or who ha passed because of it. As a whole, the U.S. owes you a great deal more than an apology.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Ice9]
#26941555 - 09/18/20 12:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Meh. The US has been shitting on the world with the 'American Dream' for the last 100 years.
It's a good observation, and a good realisation, but it's certainly nothing new.
I feel for anyone suffering under this cruel regime.
Many IRL friends included.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] 1
#26941560 - 09/18/20 12:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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family friend of mine will be joining that number before long. he is totally unresponsive for the last 48 hours. been hospitalized for, shit, two months? because of covid and resulting complications. hes been on a vent for most of that time and at this point it's inevitable that he isnt going to make it. there was brief period where he seemed to be getting better then he suddenly had a pulmonary embolism and it's been all downhill ever since
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: morrowasted] 1
#26941564 - 09/18/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm so sorry to hear that Morrow.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Ice9] 1
#26942099 - 09/18/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'd like to think that more than half of the deaths were Trump supporters.
There would at least be some poetic justice in that.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#26942138 - 09/18/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Baby_Hitler said: I'd like to think that more than half of the deaths were Trump supporters.
There would at least be some poetic justice in that.
Tasteless timing, son
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: morrowasted]
#26942153 - 09/18/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My aunt was one of the first to die of COVID in Holland.
Be strong
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Asante] 1
#26942288 - 09/18/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I really cant see how this is America's fault or how America did anything uniquely wrong.
people have died of it all over the planet.
and the USA hasn't had their healthcare system overwhelmed so there haven't been a bunch of preventable deaths.
People have suggested the numbers could be too low or too high so let's just go with what we have. the USA death rate is far below many countries in Europe.
Many places have had their schools open for a long time. Sweden isn't recomending let alone mandating masks and they didnt lock down at all and now their death rate in trending down quickly as they have had almost no deaths for a long time despite a spike in the beggining.
Trump's travel bans early on were criticized.
I really dont see how the USA is so terrible and out of line with the rest of the world. you are all acting like there is a definite, observable, articulable thing that the USA did so wrong yet I haven't heard it mentioned in this thread. maybe gathering and rioting int he streets for months wasn't a great idea. sure there may have been mismanagement by governors like Cuomo forcing nursing hoke sto take covid positive patients back. but I dont see why everyone looks at the USA as so out of league with the rest of the world when everywhere has been hit.
It sucks that Covid spread to any humans regardlrss of where they are from and my condolences to anyone affected.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26942309 - 09/18/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are USA #1 fanboy.
Literally every time criticism of the place comes up, you're there defending it with lots of words.
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Jokeshopbeard said: You are USA #1 fanboy.
Literally every time criticism of the place comes up, you're there defending it with lots of words.
I just don't get what everyone's implying. I dont see what specific, observable actions the USA took that warrant such a disproportionately outraged reaction.
Its not about agreeing with everything USA does and this time its not even about my admiration for the US founding principals. its a disconnection from reality that I'm seeing among blind America haters who say everything is USAs fault. or at least a failure to articulate their problem.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26942319 - 09/18/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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They came out and admitted they exaggerated the numbers. So, they got people to take it seriously. Some people. Because there's a lot of idiots. They made it that way. Back in the 60's I believe the director of the CIA said that if the people don't believe in anything they say then they know their mission is complete. Quite verbatim but those are the facts. So they have to create a reaction for people to listen. Whether or not that is the motive remains to be seen but I think when it put that way it's almost humanitarian. Just try to LOCKDOWN fucking AMERICA the gun haven without a good public response, lol.
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larry.fisherman said: They came out and admitted they exaggerated the numbers. So, they got people to take it seriously. Some people. Because there's a lot of idiots. They made it that way. Back in the 60's I believe the director of the CIA said that if the people don't believe in anything they say then they know their mission is complete. Quite verbatim but those are the facts. So they have to create a reaction for people to listen. Whether or not that is the motive remains to be seen but I think when it put that way it's almost humanitarian. Just try to LOCKDOWN fucking AMERICA the gun haven without a good public response, lol.
Who admitted to exaggerating what numbers? the rest of that post is incomprehensible.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#26942328 - 09/18/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just don't get what everyone's implying.
America: 20% of documented COVID dead. Also America: 4% of world population. Also America: best healthcare system in the world.
And you add, correctly: "and the USA hasn't had their healthcare system overwhelmed so there haven't been a bunch of preventable deaths."
Whats wrong with this picture?
Could it be that there is no discernible qualitative difference between what Trump plops into his golden toilet and what sits on it?
Could it be that the US authorities, in all their glory, handle this worse than Nigeria does?
Nigeria: 2.7% of the world population also Nigeria: 0.1% of documented COVID deaths
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26942330 - 09/18/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The CDC. God you guys are simple sometimes.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Asante]
#26942338 - 09/18/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The numbers are exactly what HamHead has been saying for months. In all that arguing with him you guys literally learned nothing. He was being an idiot but you guys basically discredited everything he said. The CDC, said they were accounting shit like "This person committed suicide, but probably had COVID." That's a covid death. Ontario admitted to doing it. A bunch of other countries admitted to doing it. Arguing about the numbers only matters if you haven't been paying attention. Like, you're own little reaction culture, lol. Funny huh?
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Asante]
#26942340 - 09/18/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: The CDC. God you guys are simple sometimes.
what numbers? death numbers? Can I get a source? and can you explain how a lower deat rate in acctuallity is a bad thing?
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Asante said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
I just don't get what everyone's implying.
America: 20% of documented COVID dead. Also America: 4% of world population. Also America: best healthcare system in the world.
And you add, correctly: "and the USA hasn't had their healthcare system overwhelmed so there haven't been a bunch of preventable deaths."
Whats wrong with this picture?
Could it be that there is no discernible qualitative difference between what Trump plops into his golden toilet and what sits on it?
Could it be that the US authorities, in all their glory, handle this worse than Nigeria does?
Nigeria: 2.7% of the world population also Nigeria: 0.1% of documented COVID deaths
Lol so I geusyou're even more pissed off at all the European countries with death rates several times higher t the USA's including the Netherlands right?
yeah there havent been preventable deatgs due toverwhelming of the healthcare system so I dont see what deaths you can blame on management rather than nature for creating this virus.
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larry.fisherman said: The numbers are exactly what HamHead has been saying for months. In all that arguing with him you guys literally learned nothing. He was being an idiot but you guys basically discredited everything he said. The CDC, said they were accounting shit like "This person committed suicide, but probably had COVID." That's a covid death. Ontario admitted to doing it. A bunch of other countries admitted to doing it. Arguing about the numbers only matters if you haven't been paying attention. Like, you're own little reaction culture, lol. Funny huh?
yeah so what you're saying is in reality the death rate is even lower than the official numbers indicate which would presumably mean the USA is doing even better than it appears and they have a low death rate compared to some other countries.
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We went code red throughout the hospitals of most our country. We verged on code black.
We took draconian matters even in the absence of masks, they were not available then. The population, complied significantly.
We had a lot of dead compared to our citizenry but it simply was a lot worse here and authorities curbed a drama here.
In the US, the authorities curbed actually doing anything about it at all.
We're both sitting in a powder keg playing with matches.
The cold season will be brutal.
See you in 2021 if we make the list.
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Re: Almost 200k dead from covid-19 [Re: Asante] 2
#26942348 - 09/18/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asante said: We went code red throughout the hospitals of most our country. We verged on code black.
We took draconian matters even in the absence of masks, they were not available then. The population, complied significantly.
We had a lot of dead compared to our citizenry but it simply was a lot worse here and authorities curbed a drama here.
In the US, the authorities curbed actually doing anything about it at all.
We're both sitting in a powder keg playing with matches.
The cold season will be brutal.
See you in 2021 if we make the list.
lol so the netherlands was more impacted and didn't mandate masks unlike many places in USA but it doesn't matter because America bad, trump mean and orange. got it. I must say I remain unconvinced by you Asante.
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