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jesusfish
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Unusually fast come up and strong trip
#26941242 - 09/17/20 07:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yesterday I tried mushrooms for the first time. I was with my gf and we ate what couldn't have been much more than 2gs, if that, in the woods. I chewed them, held them in my mouth for awhile before swallowing them. Within 2-5 minutes of doing this I started to get that buzzy feeling you get while tripping. At 10 minutes I was getting strong color changing, time distortion, and a little bit of irrational anxiety (I initially didn't want to follow my gf back to car to put our bags away for no discernible reason). At the 20-30 minute mark I was basically peaking. During the peak I felt like all I could do was lay in the long prairie grass as I witnessed a strong kaleidoscopic effect, as well as heavy trails and warping among other things, take over the entirety of my vision. This is all the more confusing as my girlfriend, who was on an admittedly smaller dose, felt only a little bit of a body high and saw some breathing at her peak. In the past when I've dropped acid it took an hour for that tingly feeling to kick in and I definitely did not trip this intensely. Any insight into why all of this could have happened?
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Edited by jesusfish (09/17/20 08:39 PM)
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26941517 - 09/17/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've experienced this many times. Mushrooms are divine. Sometimes they take hours to kick in and the overall trip is mediocre, other times they throw you a curve ball. I have taken less than a gram that made me trip harder than an eighth. Abnormal is the norm for mushrooms. From what you explained is usually how mushroom tea hits, almost instantly. Maybe you were in a good state of mind and not anticipating the trip, which is the best way to be because you notice all of the subtle effects. Potency, tolerance, and other factors come into play, but at the end of the day I've never had one trip that is identical to the other.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: Myco Extremist]
#26941793 - 09/18/20 06:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not trying to take away from your super fast comeup. But, I'm more than sure that was nothing more than placebo. The mind is a powerful thing. Though, the actual trip itself sounds like they were some strong mushrooms and you were in the rignt place at the right time with the correct set and setting.
Those things alone - will increase a mild dose trip into a full blown psychedelic world sometimes. Don't try and over analyze it. Sounds like you had yourself a good trip - next one may not have that sparkle but have its own characteristics. That's why you never compare one of two trips. They've all got there 'sparkle' in their own sense.
Edited by Vibe_Enthusiast (09/18/20 06:27 AM)
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jesusfish
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Thanks for the info, you two. The placebo thing sounds reasonably plausible. I'll be more cautious in the future ig
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish] 1
#26942042 - 09/18/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The more you're in tune with your body the more you will notice changes. The number of times I've heard people say for instance they did acid and didn't even know they were high until they had this realization. They stood up, or happened to pay attention to something. It happens. The opposite is true. First alerts can happen pretty soon. It's not like the substances wait a minute to start entering your system it begins immediately. This becomes more and more apparent the more you do, and if it's true for high doses it's true for lower ones.
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I agree with Myco Extremist sounds like the way tea or lemon tek’ ing hits. Mushrooms usually come on fast for me too I attribute this to the common practice of eating them on an empty stomach especially if you are out getting exercise your body can tear through them really quickly. You said you chewed them up good, I know this helps with digestion I wonder if you can start to absorb the actives through your mouth? The way tinctures are partly absorbed.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26943075 - 09/18/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you hold them under your tongue?
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26943126 - 09/18/20 08:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26943438 - 09/19/20 01:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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My first trip was like this, which was funny because everyone was telling me not to expect anything for at least 60 minutes. Within 20 I was full on hallucinating, lmao. It was only 3.5g, too!
It will be interesting to see how your tolerance evolves after this first experience, OP!
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#26945399 - 09/20/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don’t believe any actives from mushrooms are absorbed in the mouth: some biological process has to happen in the liver to allow the body to absorb the chemicals.....
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: DJ Ed]
#26945799 - 09/20/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was just listening to Tom Lane on ‘Mind Escape’ podcast he claimed the ritualistic Mesoamerican way of consuming them was to chew them for as long as possible without swallowing until the end. He claimed they would get absorbed through the mouth and come up very quickly. Not sure if there is any science behind it but that’s what he was saying.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#26945810 - 09/20/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's possible the chewing and saliva broke down psilocybin maybe? And that absorbed from your stomach. Chewing fresh mushrooms definitely hits fast
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26945866 - 09/20/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've read that mushrooms contain some psilocin plus the normal psilocybin, so maybe enough psilocin absorbed sublingually to cause some of the more subtle effects while the psilocybin got digested normally?
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26946267 - 09/20/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
jesusfish said: Yesterday I tried mushrooms for the first time. I was with my gf and we ate what couldn't have been much more than 2gs, if that, in the woods. I chewed them, held them in my mouth for awhile before swallowing them. Within 2-5 minutes of doing this I started to get that buzzy feeling you get while tripping. At 10 minutes I was getting strong color changing, time distortion, and a little bit of irrational anxiety (I initially didn't want to follow my gf back to car to put our bags away for no discernible reason). At the 20-30 minute mark I was basically peaking. During the peak I felt like all I could do was lay in the long prairie grass as I witnessed a strong kaleidoscopic effect, as well as heavy trails and warping among other things, take over the entirety of my vision. This is all the more confusing as my girlfriend, who was on an admittedly smaller dose, felt only a little bit of a body high and saw some breathing at her peak. In the past when I've dropped acid it took an hour for that tingly feeling to kick in and I definitely did not trip this intensely. Any insight into why all of this could have happened?
Everybody has a different natural tolerance to different psychedelics. Yours sounds pretty low, so enjoy that.
Or it could be placebo in the beginning, which also has strong effects and depends on expectations. Try them again in a couple weeks and see what happens.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26946486 - 09/20/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Happens Op...it happens.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: jesusfish]
#26946501 - 09/20/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think it's placebo at all.
Shrooms or LSD held in my mouth start to work for me in about 7 minutes. I think it's absorbed under your tongue, as some have said here. Even if you don't put it under your tongue, some saliva with the juices get under your tongue.
The reason I think it's not placebo is that 2 times of the approx 100 times I've tripped it was bunk acid, i.e. just paper. Those two times I did not feel high at all.
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26947027 - 09/20/20 11:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Point taken lol
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Re: Unusually fast come up and strong trip [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26947609 - 09/21/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'm kind of thinking I'll try a lower dose next time. Then again, another friend tried some from the same 8th and he tripped pretty hard too, so maybe my girlfriends dose was just a bit low
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