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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: poofdargon]
    #26941502 - 09/17/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It means that I feel that this existence is an illusion, and that we - as humans - tend to take this whole fucking gig waaaaaaaaaay too seriously the vast majority of the time.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941503 - 09/17/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Think of the Buddhist concept of 'not-self', if you're at all familiar with it.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941536 - 09/17/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Familiar; yes.

Understood? Not at all. The only thing I really understood with some degree of confidence is impermanence. Not-self caused me a lot of confusion and grief.


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You think yourself immune to madness?

Are you certain it has yet to take hold?

I'm gonna be the greatest music star in all of Riboflavin. -Grup


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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: poofdargon]
    #26941537 - 09/17/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Which sort of explains my current confusion about the sig.


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You think yourself immune to madness?

Are you certain it has yet to take hold?

I'm gonna be the greatest music star in all of Riboflavin. -Grup


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: poofdargon]
    #26941539 - 09/17/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It took me a long time to understand it too.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941550 - 09/17/20 11:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not sure I will. Just when they start to get me there they lose me. Like you are a father until your kids die or you die, you are a lawyer until you quit, it's like you pick up an identity and then you leave it. So when they mean you are nothing it's not that you don't exist or aren't real but rather than there is no enduring thing about you that defines you. I think. When I first read it the advice was not the best thing in the world for a high schooler finding their way.

But I take everything seriously: the wind, the waves, the grass, the birds, the rocks, sun, heat, cold, all of it. It means quite a deal to me, the wilds.


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You think yourself immune to madness?

Are you certain it has yet to take hold?

I'm gonna be the greatest music star in all of Riboflavin. -Grup


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: poofdargon]
    #26941551 - 09/17/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Taking things seriously is for the birds, man.

I mean; you reject Alan Watts. What's that all about?!?!


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941572 - 09/18/20 12:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's just that some of his videos are based on a misinterpretation of some sciences. Though that video on what is meaning (previous page) is one of the good ones. It's about just seeing the meaning in the hippo as it is and not where it can take you or as a means to an end. There is nowhere to go, you are already there. It reminds me of my walks. I'm walking but I'm not going anywhere. I walk, explore, take it in. I might want to see what's over there or someplace I've never been or who knows. It's both carefree and serious, but it's fun too.

Ok I guess I was a bit hasty. Some of his stuff is good, some I don't quite jive with. He did a talk about career that I found illuminating.

But my question for you, which is what I asked Buddhists about no self, is how does one have compassion for others or celebrate with them if there is "nobody" (like in the thread about tyrranical being married this long).


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You think yourself immune to madness?

Are you certain it has yet to take hold?

I'm gonna be the greatest music star in all of Riboflavin. -Grup


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: poofdargon]
    #26941599 - 09/18/20 12:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

LOL, that's easy; you just have to come to the point of realisation that THEY'RE ALL fighting the same hard battle you are.

We all struggle the same, no matter what we are. Therefore; they (you) are all my brothers and sisters.

My fellow __________, fighting the same hard struggle that I am.

From that, unconditional love and compassion.

Don't be so serious.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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InvisibleJokeshopbeard
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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941600 - 09/18/20 12:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ugh. I just realised you're Thanatos10.

Jesus raise a fucking support ticket man.

I love you, but sorry, you gotta go.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe


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Re: Sailing upon the ocean [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #26941837 - 09/18/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

LOL, I knew it was him/her!!! I was going to call it today!!:grin:


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