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vinsue
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#26941098 - 09/17/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm in the hospital for 7 days now after 6 and 1/2 years of zero alcohol. I thought I could handle a nice cold beer for Cinco de Mayo.
Within 4 months I was drinking 20-30 beers a day and couldn't stop.
I now have 6 days sober and I got some more news 5 hours ago. I now need a defibrillator installed tomorrow because my heart is only working at about 30%.
If you believe in a God I'd appreciate you keep me in your prayers and if you don't, wish me good luck and a quick recovery. I love you guys and gals and anyone in between .
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#26941100 - 09/17/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope everything goes smoothly. I hope you feel better soon!
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#26941105 - 09/17/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Booze is a bitch. You'll be alright. Good luck and swift recovery
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Vinsue, I’m proud of ya. Better late than never! I know how tough it is and so do you. But you’re gonna be just fine no matter what happens. Let the drink drink itself from now on. It’s had more than enough of you already. All is fundamentally good, well, & forgiven - just let yourself get well this time and keep on keeping on, but this time all the wiser for having seen once more - the drank ain’t considered noble for good reason - and usually just leads to more suffering - wether we realize it or not. It’s just a clever trick we play on ourselves to help us kid our own hearts into believing we aren’t fully and madly in love with reality...and all of it’s grooves & curves. My friend, it’s All just part of the love affair.

Lucille, let her help you through this time of healing.
And some Idle Moments - to make your momentsa bit less idle...
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#26941151 - 09/17/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hang in there man!
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Best of wishes vinsue, I hope you start yo feel better soon, and I suppose good on you for detoxing. You realized you werent in a good situation and worked on getting out of it, all you can do really.
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Patlal
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Re: Detox.. [Re: TNK] 2
#26941185 - 09/17/20 06:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your heart will go on.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: Patlal] 1
#26941189 - 09/17/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Creator is still flowing through your veins. If you arn't dead now, you're good. Those doctors are good at what they do. The technology is pretty incredible too. Don't think that gives you a pass to drink. You're lucky man.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 2
#26941259 - 09/17/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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What!? I was wondering where you were man! I wish you well. I'm no angel myself. Stay strong and maybe just stay with weed if possible?
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jesusfish
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Hey, dude, I know it's rough, but it'll get better, I promise. Much love
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26941277 - 09/17/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hope you the best old friend, you do not need beer at your age anyway
Fucking beer sent me to the coronary critical care unit about 5 years ago My heart was out of rhythm and it could have stroked me out
Get healthy again buddy
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26941344 - 09/17/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get well soon!
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Thanks for sharing...
I’m the same way with alcohol. It’s been about three years since I’ve had any and sometimes I think about seeing how my relationship has changed with it...however I think about the past and the inevitable of me taking it too far and resist.
Stay strong brother
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26941434 - 09/17/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It happens, do'nt be too hard on yourself. My best wishes extended to your recovery. Press on good fellow.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: lavod] 1
#26941452 - 09/17/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love you man, best wishes. Just keep trying, thats all anyone can do
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26941456 - 09/17/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Love you Vince.
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Sorry to hear about the relapse dude. I wish you a speedy recovery. There's no doubt a lot to take away from the experience as you move past this little set back.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26941707 - 09/18/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn vinsue that was a tough read. Take care of yourself man. Life's too important to let momentary hedonisms bring us down.. I think we were all much happier to hear you quit, and would all be happier if it stayed that way. Best of luck, hope you feel better soon.
Edited by larry.fisherman (09/18/20 07:55 AM)
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Best of luck and strength to you vinsue you are in my prayers
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Good luck man, thinking of you. You'll pull through
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26942164 - 09/18/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Was actually wondering about you the other week, slightly worried you haven't been around or involved in the gathering thread.
So sorry to hear all this. You are certainly a fighter, and you got this.
Lean on the community, we have your back.
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#26942180 - 09/18/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm wishing you good luck and a quick recovery
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Damn Vince, You've been through so much these last few years and overcome everything. You can do it again, all any of us have is one day sober. Booze creeped into your thoughts, like it always does, alcoholism is a fucked up disease that constantly tells us that we don't have it. You can call me anytime....and yes, I will be praying for you.
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Super well put. Any time you need to talk or vent hit us up. We're here for you bud.
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#26942335 - 09/18/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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#26942410 - 09/18/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will definitely have you in my thoughts and prayers.
You are loved!
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#26942436 - 09/18/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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good luck how did you mess up your heart with alcohol? doesn't that give you cirrhosis?
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I wish you the best of luck. I know that struggle very well
6 and a half years is quite an accomplishment. Even if you fell off the wagon, it doesn't erase what you were able to do. I got sober earlier this year after about 2.5 years of hard, daily drinking. I knew that if I kept going that I'd end up with cirrhosis or heart disease or something like that by my early 30s. I still live in fear, every day, that I'll go back to my old ways
I'm not a religious person, but I wish you well. I hope you find comfort in your religion, but remember that it was you, your will power and your strength that allowed you to remain sober for so long. You still have that strength inside of you. Harness it to overcome this difficult time
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onwards and upwards
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vinsue
Grand Old Fart



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Quote:
Thayendanegea said: Damn Vince, You've been through so much these last few years and overcome everything. You can do it again, all any of us have is one day sober. Booze creeped into your thoughts, like it always does, alcoholism is a fucked up disease that constantly tells us that we don't have it. You can call me anytime....and yes, I will be praying for you.
I will be calling you tomorrow with my new number. My antique Obama phone is dropping calls constantly so I joined the 21st century and bought my first ever smartphone. 
I was completely conscious during the 25 minute defibrillator insertion, just barely enough fent in a IV drip to dull the pain, but certainly no where near la-la land.(just as well)
One messed up aspect was I was ordered to have zero water or food after 11 PM for my morning procedure and I didn't get my operation until 7 PM ( almost 20 hour long fast. )
I absolutely felt the first cut, the forceful moving of the device around trying to find a depression to park it,and the closing sutures.
No narcotic painkillers were prescribed but I was given 2 librium which I was already taking for my uncontrollable shakes. What pain I do feel now is tolerable.
@ Stimpson- I messed up my heart with over 40 years of heavy smoking and daily heavy drinking, several years of daily IV use of heroin, coke, meth, and pretty much any barbiturate or sedative that dissolves in water. I became a drug dealer in 7th grade because if I sold 2/3 of whatever pills, powder, pot, hash, whatever, the rest was free.
I do have early stage 3 cirrhosis which I probably picked up in 1984 around the same time I got infected with Hepatitis C. Fortunately in 2016 after 2 years of sobriety I was treated for 12 weeks and cured of my HCV and the virus remains undetected.
I so appreciate the support and kind words from this community that some of y'all's posts put tears (of joy) in my eyes. I love probably 90% of our community and the few I disagree with I must learn to accept differences in opinion and stop feeling and feeding on hate and rage. It's potentially killing me. Earlier today I was raging about a Trump statement or story and my defibrillator detected an immediate arrhythmia where my heart beat went crazy for several seconds
I'm probably going to pretty much avoid the Political Forum because I'm not willing to die because of the moronic elected idiots on both sides adding unnecessary stress to my ticker.
I think next week when I'm released from the hospital I'll be going to an in house psysical therapy facility (doctors orders ) a few days or a week to get my strength back.
Be safe and be well frinds... TL/didn't read, 2 fuckin' bad. I'm still pretty much confined to my bed
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#26945130 - 09/19/20 11:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Best of luck vinsue and a speedy recovery
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#26945692 - 09/20/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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That sounds like it was a horror show, great to hear you're on the other side now though 
Hope the PT and everything goes well. Going through a rehab program should speed your recovery up big time. It's internship season too so you'll probably spend most of the time hanging out with hot new grad PT and OT chicks 
Wise move to tune out of politics for awhile, the stress caused by focusing on all the fuckery going on right now just isn't healthy, gotta try to just stay focused on what's right in front of us and what we can control.
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#26945797 - 09/20/20 09:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're one strong person to remain positive considering what you're going through. Thanks for telling your story, it's not always an easy thing to do. Wishing you a quick and healthy recovery, take care.
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No fucks given



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#26946066 - 09/20/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just stay off the alcohol Vinsue, Quitting drinking is the best thing i have ever done for my health We want you around for a long time buddy
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tyrannicalrex said: What!? I was wondering where you were man! I wish you well. I'm no angel myself. Stay strong and maybe just stay with weed if possible?
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tyrannicalrex said: What!? I was wondering where you were man! I wish you well. I'm no angel myself. Stay strong and maybe just stay with weed if possible?
Second this. I´m ex addict and alcoholic. Was physically depended on alocohol and benzos and opiats for long time. Alcohol and benzos for 10+ years. We all need are fixes but if you are ex addict you gotta pick the ones that dont kill you or mess up with your life too badly. For me it is weed, coffee and sex. Can cope with those and still not mess my life up too badly. Training and good diet essential for feeling good imho! If not feeling good naturally supplementing with unhealthy choises is too easy imho.
Hang in there mate You can do this
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/comfort
the forces of Discord sneak up on the best of us, always with that small, sneaky, seductive voice saying "it will be fine, this time will be different, you'll see..." sometimes the hardest lessons to learn are that there's just some things you aren't meant to "get better" at handling. sometimes poison is just poison, and while it's possible to build resistance to poison... you could simply just not drink poison at all.
it's not like you're being forced to drink it, after all. i promise, if your friends really, really get on your case that much for not drinking alcohol with them even socially... you need new friends. :P that said, from going that many years without, sounds like that's not the issue - you clearly have done very well in the willpower department! you just got tricked, like so many before have. well, now you're wiser for the experience, and you clearly have the strength to resist still!
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Re: Detox.. [Re: Psion] 2
#26946947 - 09/20/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi Vinsue. We love you and need you at the Shroomery. You're part of the glue that keeps us all together. Get healthy and stay healthy please. I'm not into god, but I will pray for you anyways.
Addiction is a hard disease to deal with. Just remember that it is a disease and that you made a mistake and it's ok to make mistakes. Don't be hard on yourself. Just do what you can to get sober again and fill your life with happiness. Instead of beer try drinking smoothies and doing push-ups or crunchys.
Stay positive and remember that we are here for you!
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#26946998 - 09/20/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn sorry to hear. Addiction is a scary thing ! Wishing you well old fella and looking forward to hearing about you bouncing back better then ever
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Yeah man, stress is a fucking physical killer, scientific fact! Take it easy and don't watch or listen to the crap going on right now. Focus on your health and getting as good as you can be right now. We're getting an elliptical machine and some weights soon for the basement room (luckily we have the space). I need to get back to some daily/weekly exercising. I was a waiter/bartender for 35 years and stopped moving around so much when I got this nursing gig. I too was an IV coke and speed user, but for a shorter time and it was only me doing it alone, weird times.
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#26947714 - 09/21/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn dude, I'm sorry to hear all that. You're always a welcome presence on the shroomery and I wish you a speedy recovery. I know a thing or two about making mistakes man, and it happens. Take care of yourself, I wish nothing but the best for the shroomery's Grand Old Fart.
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Stay strong Vinsue. You're a good man, you are a valuable person and have lots to offer the people around you. Take time to look after yourself and battle this. Talk soon friend.
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So I was released from the hospital 9/23, insurance wouldn't cover transportation so I took $7 taxi to the PT facility. Suprise, mandatory 14 day isolation required, technically not to leave my room but I'm out and about daily, (wearing my mask) getting cold water from the day room, or checking my weight in day room, or random questions for the nurse station. No one has challenged me, I need to walk daily, not pacing my room like a caged animal. I should have gone straight home but was concerned my insurance might have denied coverage if I skipped the PT facility (technically AMA). Food is great, in room PT 2X a day good for the muscles, but really bad for my already beat up knee. The 14 day isolation is up on Oct 6,then hopefully 1 or 2 days evaluation in their gym. I'll be begging out patient rehab if they think I still need it.
Funny/scary story, the day after implant, nurses come running into my room. "What's going on? You feel OK?" Apparently my heart was going crazy for 5 seconds and my defibrillator picked it up and sent a signal to them. I told them I felt fine, I was just pissed off and yelling at some A hole MAGA on TV defending tRump's continuous lying and bullshit,lol. I guess I need to learn better anger management and stop letting politics bother me so much. I did my mail in ballot today (including legal mj here in NJ)and will mail it tomorrow. Guess I'll just concentrate on getting stronger so I can gtfo all the sooner.
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#26964448 - 10/01/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Vinsue, I don't believe in god. But I do believe in you. Take care of yourself.
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vinsue said: So I was released from the hospital 9/23, insurance wouldn't cover transportation so I took $7 taxi to the PT facility. Suprise, mandatory 14 day isolation required, technically not to leave my room but I'm out and about daily, (wearing my mask) getting cold water from the day room, or checking my weight in day room, or random questions for the nurse station. No one has challenged me, I need to walk daily, not pacing my room like a caged animal. I should have gone straight home but was concerned my insurance might have denied coverage if I skipped the PT facility (technically AMA). Food is great, in room PT 2X a day good for the muscles, but really bad for my already beat up knee. The 14 day isolation is up on Oct 6,then hopefully 1 or 2 days evaluation in their gym. I'll be begging out patient rehab if they think I still need it.
Funny/scary story, the day after implant, nurses come running into my room. "What's going on? You feel OK?" Apparently my heart was going crazy for 5 seconds and my defibrillator picked it up and sent a signal to them. I told them I felt fine, I was just pissed off and yelling at some A hole MAGA on TV defending tRump's continuous lying and bullshit,lol. I guess I need to learn better anger management and stop letting politics bother me so much. I did my mail in ballot today (including legal mj here in NJ)and will mail it tomorrow. Guess I'll just concentrate on getting stronger so I can gtfo all the sooner.
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It so fucking sucks that you need to deal with insurance companies for medical reasons... Can't cover this, can't cover that... $500 a month don't buy you shit... It's a completely fucked up reality that only the US has...
I wish you Americans universal coverage as soon as possible.
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Universal healthcare would limit innovation and would perpetuate a one fits all mentality. It would be awful. In case you wondering, I don't have insurance. One day I'll be able to get it though.
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#26964930 - 10/01/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue] 1
#26964975 - 10/01/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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vinsue said: So I was released from the hospital 9/23, insurance wouldn't cover transportation so I took $7 taxi to the PT facility. Suprise, mandatory 14 day isolation required, technically not to leave my room but I'm out and about daily, (wearing my mask) getting cold water from the day room, or checking my weight in day room, or random questions for the nurse station. No one has challenged me, I need to walk daily, not pacing my room like a caged animal. I should have gone straight home but was concerned my insurance might have denied coverage if I skipped the PT facility (technically AMA). Food is great, in room PT 2X a day good for the muscles, but really bad for my already beat up knee. The 14 day isolation is up on Oct 6,then hopefully 1 or 2 days evaluation in their gym. I'll be begging out patient rehab if they think I still need it.
Funny/scary story, the day after implant, nurses come running into my room. "What's going on? You feel OK?" Apparently my heart was going crazy for 5 seconds and my defibrillator picked it up and sent a signal to them. I told them I felt fine, I was just pissed off and yelling at some A hole MAGA on TV defending tRump's continuous lying and bullshit,lol. I guess I need to learn better anger management and stop letting politics bother me so much. I did my mail in ballot today (including legal mj here in NJ)and will mail it tomorrow. Guess I'll just concentrate on getting stronger so I can gtfo all the sooner.
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That story is funny as hell. Sounds about right, I'm the same way!
Congratulations on this next chapter in your journey! That sucks about the mandatory isolation, but at least the food is good?
Saw the pics of you, and your eyes still shine bright. Stay strong, work that rehab, and your head up. Looks like you have a great attitude and are making progress- So keep it up!
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Re: Detox.. [Re: Patlal]
#26965078 - 10/02/20 12:10 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
It so fucking sucks that you need to deal with insurance companies for medical reasons... Can't cover this, can't cover that... $500 a month don't buy you shit... It's a completely fucked up reality that only the US has...
I wish you Americans universal coverage as soon as possible.
My insurance is almost $900/month, but because I'm retired and my Social Security payments are only $1750/month, I only pay $62/month. Dr office visits are $40 copays, meds 7 - $15 copays, but I still get suprise bills months after visits/procedures/lab costs.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue]
#26965115 - 10/02/20 12:41 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trump guaranteed that there was no surprise billing anymore They are are both liers
 I am fixing to call you if it aint to late Fuck that i an gonna call you I know you are bored and would like to talk
You better wake the fuck up and answer the phone
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Hope you have a speedy recovery Vinsue. I guess the bright side is that you have a private room now, imagine if you had a roommate who stayed up all night watching Fox 
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Shiithead said: Universal healthcare would limit innovation and would perpetuate a one fits all mentality. It would be awful. In case you wondering, I don't have insurance. One day I'll be able to get it though.
That's actually just the typical talking point of congressmen who receive funding from insurance companies and pharma, and not true at all. The "innovation" part of our healthcare system has basically already been socialized, since pharma and biotech companies largely refused to put money into researching anything except the most common conditions that would sell them the most pills. Now the government funds the innovation through grants and government assistance. The orphan drugs that get developed are often patented and priced at such a point that they're out of reach for the majority who actually need them, or financially crippling. The rest of the world pays far less for the same drugs. It's an awful system.
There really is no downside to switching to universal healthcare, medicare for all would be bad at first though because the rates it pays to providers would cause salary cuts and medical office/hospital closures all over due to lost profits. That could be alleviated by raising reimbursements and factoring in a yearly increase based on COL and inflation, which could be paid for by drug-price negotiations and increasing taxes to a rate that would likely be lower than what people currently pay for their insurance. We already have the infrastructure and education system in place that would prevent a lot of the long wait times other countries see, except for in the rural areas that already have that problem.
No one should have to make decisions about their health based upon what some douchebags in suits with no medical background think is appropriate. Our current system essentially allows insurance executives to practice medicine without a license.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: feevers] 1
#26965374 - 10/02/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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feevers said: imagine if you had a roommate who stayed up all night watching Fox 
That somebody would magically stop breathing due to accidental pillow over face syndrome. 
I agree with everything else you posted.
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Re: Detox.. [Re: vinsue]
#26965384 - 10/02/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well put, feevers.
Hey PAW, Trump also promised to lower drug costs (in 2 wks)!
Dang vinsue, it's morbid and dreary outside today, you're lucky that you have a nice toasty private room with food service. And hot nurses/PTs & techs? What are you doing to keep yourself occupied?
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Hey vinsue good luck with your medical stuff man. You know when a politician is lying? When their lips are moving. I'd really like one of those baby Trump balloons you offered but only if you let me pay for the postage and buy you some weed in return... might help with the bills, and you can never have too much weed
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birdeatingspider said: What are you doing to keep yourself occupied?
He has been burning up my phone today but i actually had to work today I sent the fuckker a text mssg earlier I guess i outta just call him because he cannot operate a smart phone worth a shit
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He called me back
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Hope u feel better vinsue
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#26968563 - 10/04/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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vinsue said: I'm in the hospital for 7 days now after 6 and 1/2 years of zero alcohol. I thought I could handle a nice cold beer for Cinco de Mayo.
Within 4 months I was drinking 20-30 beers a day and couldn't stop.
I now have 6 days sober and I got some more news 5 hours ago. I now need a defibrillator installed tomorrow because my heart is only working at about 30%.
If you believe in a God I'd appreciate you keep me in your prayers and if you don't, wish me good luck and a quick recovery. I love you guys and gals and anyone in between .
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It's a disease of the mind, especially Alcoholism I feel like.
The good news is you know how to stay clean because you've done it for 6 1\2 years. Can't let the slip ups define you. Good vibes my friend glad you're OK.
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Anyone heard from Vinsue? Been trying to get in touch with him.
Hope you’re doing well!
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