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Rahz
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I suppose it's normal, but abnormal things no?
Conspiracy is "history is full of intrigue". I've read that the CIA coined the term "conspiracy theorists". The phrase eventually came to be a genre of a mixture of fantasy and fact. They're compelling because they might/might not be true. Like science, who doesn't love a good mystery? People entertain their fears like watching a thriller, but again, what's true and what's not? Some people find it interesting, what's true and what's not, or they want to satisfy a bias. Sherlock Holmes and the whole murder mystery genre is about interest in often deadly conspiracies.
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Re: conspiracy theories [Re: Rahz]
#26943577 - 09/19/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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and aliens
and ghosts
and Mayan predictions
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It's probably a truism that all precious children grow up to be megalomaniacal tyrants who would leave someone sucking vacuum for quirky behavior when it came to their turn to man the airlock control.
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i suppose that how this website ended up with a specific conspiracry theory subforum, it's nice to give the lunatics their own playground!
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even if you truck them out to the boonies they find there way back to the general public where they can get the kind of attention they crave.
If you put a bowl of nuts in the forest will you really grow any trees?
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there's a time and a place for everything!
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Rahz
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redgreenvines said: and aliens
and ghosts
and Mayan predictions
Yes, there is always a component of the unknown. Some people don't like questions without answers so they form a belief. I don't believe in ghosts but I'm constantly surprised to meet people who seem otherwise normal and intelligent who believe in them.
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Re: conspiracy theories [Re: Rahz]
#26943921 - 09/19/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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or, instead of forming a belief, they keep an open mind.
nonsense can be very insightful.
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Rahz
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That's another group of people. I'm open minded, but anecdotal evidence isn't going to change my mind. Why should it?
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Apparitions are a real phenomena. But they are like a hallucination or dream/ dream character - ie - Pure Mind stuff.
If you ever experience one , be glad!, they are a fantastic learning opportunity to better understand the nature of Mind and our own brain.
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Rahz
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I'm not sure a hallucination is phenomenal.
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Re: conspiracy theories [Re: Rahz]
#26944096 - 09/19/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Real only in so far as it is something that can potentially be experienced. Like a dream, or a fungi trip.
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whatever you think you see you see be cause it has formed in your mind from signals in the world and in memory.
hallucination just uses fewer signals from the world and more from synthesis of remembered bits.
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Fewer?
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Re: conspiracy theories [Re: Rahz]
#26944151 - 09/19/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup. eg. you hear a rustle and turn and see a vampire.
the rustle is a few signals, the rest is synthetic connected with apprehension and turning and looking to see.
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if anyone desires to have a paranormal/anomalous experience with a ghost (or alien), the first course is to not expect the experience to be based on human sentiments or convenience at all.
communication with a departed person, is a communication from a mind in one state of existence and a mind in another very different state of existence. a ghost is a manifestation of persistent personal energy. it’s the part of the self that is able to maintain an independent existence even after its biological organism is destroyed. ghosts are a phenomena of nature, they don’t need to be something that’s outside that nature.
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Rahz
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redgreenvines said: Yup. eg. you hear a rustle and turn and see a vampire.
the rustle is a few signals, the rest is synthetic connected with apprehension and turning and looking to see.
The rustle is or is not part of the hallucination?
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thealienthatategod said: if anyone desires to have a paranormal/anomalous experience with a ghost (or alien), the first course is to not expect the experience to be based on human sentiments or convenience at all.
communication with a departed person, is a communication from a mind in one state of existence and a mind in another very different state of existence. a ghost is a manifestation of persistent personal energy. it’s the part of the self that is able to maintain an independent existence even after its biological organism is destroyed. ghosts are a phenomena of nature, they don’t need to be something that’s outside that nature.
Fact or theory?
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Re: conspiracy theories [Re: Rahz]
#26944198 - 09/19/20 01:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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an open minded hypothesis
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Rahz
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Anyway, I'm not sure there's an inherent conspiracy theory in some of these topics, such as ghosts and hallucinations. That's what I meant when suggesting "conspiracy theory" has become a genre with many things lumped together. Some topics could be hybrid. There's a conspiracy to convince people a creature that does not exist, exists. There's a conspiracy to convince people that aliens are using wheat fields for art and communication. But those are not conspiracy theories, but simply theories about reality... which people conspire for others to believe (IMO).
And when you lump the crazy with the serious, it can all seem crazy.
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