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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26940418 - 09/17/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The first thing I would do is be absolutely that what you took were mushrooms, if they were dried properly and stored as dry powder inside close pills, I doubt they would cause these symptoms, but I am no expert so don't take my word for that.
I had a bad experience when I ate some ipomoea seeds, if that are what they are called. It was a really bad experience, I was bedridden for almost three days, and had lasting effects for 5 months or so. It must've affected my immune system since I got an ear infection literally the following days after ingesting them.
I did not however get any other side effects like cloudy pee, I got lightheaded and dizzyness that came and went for more than 6 months, but over time it went away.
If the doctors cant find anything wrong with you, then try going to another doctor, or in the case that they are right - bad effects from psychedelics can last for some time. Pee can have a lot of different smells, colors and "foaming" properties, and still be within normal parameters.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26940450 - 09/17/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I recently went to the Dr. for somewhat similar symptoms that popped up after tripping for the first time in a long while (weird feelings in my junk, lost appetite, lost about 10lbs, just feeling weird). I had kind of felt like maybe my symptoms were psychosomatic, but I'm not going to mess around if there could be a problem with my junk. Anyway, doc diddled my kit and said she didn't see anything out of the ordinary, and she did mention that if stress is going to manifest physically, it's often in the genitourinary system. It was pretty bizarre having basically all my symptoms just dissipate within hours of that visit.
I'm not saying it's the same thing for you, but it is definitely possible it's in your head.
Also, I'm not a Dr., but did they check you specifically for diabetes? I think those symptoms may go along with that.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26940455 - 09/17/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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First, can you rule out that the mushrooms you ate were indeed psilocybe cubensis (or one of the other non-toxic psilocybin containing species?)?
It is important to note that the article you posted detailing renal failure from "suspected magic mushrooms" itself claims that it was more than likely a different mushroom that was consumed. Do not mistake a "contaminated" mushroom with a completely different mushroom.
Psilocybin cubensis, absent any other serious pre-existing conditions, will not cause renal failure. Illness, absent of any pre-existing condition, is rare. Please note, this is considering only psilocybin cubensis and not taking into account any contamination (such as mold) that may develop as a consequence of such things as improper/negligent storage.
Your tests came back fine (as you say your doctor claims). If you can afford it, and are willing, I'd suggest getting a second opinion (either rerunning the tests with another physician or having them go over the results of your initial test). This may lead them to finding something or concluding that you are "physiologically" fine.
If the second opinion does show that you are "fine" and your symptoms aren't getting drastically worse (NOTE IF THEY ARE, PLEASE GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM), you need to observe your diet, sleep, exercise patterns etc.
I had a similar issue where certain foods and coffee would give me excruciating stomach cramps. Dr tests came back that all was fine. I then changed my diet and realized that the culprits were 1) Coffee 2) Low amount of fiber in my diet 3) overuse of hot sauce in food. It took about 2 months to fix myself by overhauling my diet but I ended up feeling much better.
In conclusion, I'd say get a second opinion (or even a third if you need to and/or are able to). If the tests turn out showing that you are "well", and your symptoms aren't getting much worse, perhaps see a diet special to see if you can change certain things and then see if that helps.
P.S If you have Drs that dismiss you when speaking about psychedelic mushrooms, perhaps you should tell them that you possibly ate regular moldy mushrooms and ask them if you did, what should they be checking for.
Important questions:
1) Are you absolutely positive that what you consumed is indeed a psilocybin containing species?
2) Something being "old" is not a source of contamination. But were they stored in a way that would minimize exposure and opportunity to contamination? Could you verify the storage was proper before it came to you as well?
3) Have you consumed anything else recently that could be the source of possible illness?
DISCLAIMER: I am not a physician in any capacity, legal or otherwise, and this post is not intended to give medical advice in any way, shape or form. Please consult a licensed physician (or three) and, in case of emergency, please visit your nearest emergency room.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26940571 - 09/17/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your symptoms are confusing... If you had said that you're experiencing diarrhea I would have suggested microbial dysbiosis because some of your symptoms overlap... I had that shit and let me tell you, I was fucked up... Mainstream doctors overlook it all of the time... It's hard to say though because other symptoms you have don't correlate... Uncomfortable nut sac? I wish you the best man...
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Nikon Addict]
#26940702 - 09/17/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Apologies if the symptoms weren't clear. I have had issues with diarrhea over the last few weeks. I switched to the FODMAP diet and its helped make my stool firm. Rice, oats, potatoes, and some fruits while avoiding dairy and gluten. I have had a couple episodes since though.
What was your experience in finding a fix for microbial dysbiosis?
Appreciate your advice here.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26941079 - 09/17/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Undercooked tofu = diarrhea?
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#26955705 - 09/26/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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harketh said: Apologies if the symptoms weren't clear. I have had issues with diarrhea over the last few weeks. I switched to the FODMAP diet and its helped make my stool firm. Rice, oats, potatoes, and some fruits while avoiding dairy and gluten. I have had a couple episodes since though.
What was your experience in finding a fix for microbial dysbiosis?
Appreciate your advice here.
Assuming you do have dysbiosis the only proper was of dealing with this is taking a broad spectrum antibiotic which will probably wipe out most if not all of the good bacteria too... Then it's a plant rich diet, pre and probiotics and supplements... A series of fecal implants is really the best way to go but here in the U.S. they're considered experimental still and only allowed for C Diff Colitis which is a shame because it could be used to help many more people for all gut related issues... The only doctors that have a handle on this are those who are trained in functional medicine...
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Nikon Addict]
#27053954 - 11/23/20 01:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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After 3 months I'm still dealing with the pains, not as bad but still preventing me from working or doing the things I love. I've tried modifying my diet in every way with no success or consistency in my conditions, especially the muscle twitching and nerve pain.
Ironically the traditional roads lead me down the functional medicine route and I'm hoping they can figure this out and present a treatment plan. I wish I would've read your reply sooner!
You mentioned antibiotics being the only way out of this rabbit hole, what else can you say about that? Is there a specific type of antibiotic that helps with this? My functional doctor and others have pushed me away from antibiotics unfortunately. Should I push harder on them to give me something like Cirpo, Flagyl, or something else to get back to normality?
Any further advice would be amazingly helpful. Thanks!
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#27054344 - 11/23/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Get a second, or even third opinion. You definitely should not be taking antibiotics unless you are absolutely sure they fix the problem. It can lead to much bigger problems just using them willy nillly to troubleshoot.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#27054778 - 11/23/20 11:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Jeez you should find out where they got those mushrooms. Your friend didn't pick them fresh from their local park did they?
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: mndfreeze]
#27055325 - 11/24/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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mndfreeze said: Get a second, or even third opinion. You definitely should not be taking antibiotics unless you are absolutely sure they fix the problem. It can lead to much bigger problems just using them willy nillly to troubleshoot.
Sadly I've been to over a dozen doctors and they're all scratching their heads from various tests. Mention anything about shrooms and they ignore it but write on your chart that you're a deviant.
I've been asking people if this could be a depletion of minerals/chemicals in the body; like how people get drained of serotonin from some drugs. Could this be a possibility?
Have you ever heard of anyone getting stomach issues from ingesting them?
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#27058045 - 11/26/20 01:33 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Some things to research/consider:
1. Are you drinking ONLY bottled water, or are there other beverages? 2. Are you journaling like a bodybuilder (writing down the times you eat, take supplements, poop, etc ---- ) everday, all day? The journal will show you more connections than simple mind memory. 3. Have you tried any supplements, and did you experience any changes? 4. Have you tried 500mg of Potassium every 24 hours to address the cramping? 5. Have you tried stopping all supplements, medicines, and experiments? 6. Have you tried some Broad Spectrum Anti-Biotics as well as an anti-fungal like Fluconazole? 7. Have you addressed the diarhea by trying Loperamide and 30mg Analfin?
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Study The CNS]
#27067194 - 12/01/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Study The CNS said: Some things to research/consider:
1. Are you drinking ONLY bottled water, or are there other beverages? 2. Are you journaling like a bodybuilder (writing down the times you eat, take supplements, poop, etc ---- ) everday, all day? The journal will show you more connections than simple mind memory. 3. Have you tried any supplements, and did you experience any changes? 4. Have you tried 500mg of Potassium every 24 hours to address the cramping? 5. Have you tried stopping all supplements, medicines, and experiments? 6. Have you tried some Broad Spectrum Anti-Biotics as well as an anti-fungal like Fluconazole? 7. Have you addressed the diarhea by trying Loperamide and 30mg Analfin?
1. Only bottled water via a delivery service every month. 2. Cataloging every meal, supplement, and bowel movement. Can't find any patterns in trigger foods. 3. Taking a ton of supplements from doctors; magnesium, turmeric, thiamine, vitamin D, multi vitamin, digestive enzymes. 4. That's a good call, I've been drinking electrolyte drinks (LiquidIV) but haven't been able to find anything that high in potassium. Where would I find that? 5. I haven't tried stopping all the supplements lately; but given my strict clean diet (no wheat, no dairy, etc) at this point I'm about to throw it all out the window since it's not making a difference. 6. My doctor recently put me on Bactrim as he was able to identify dysbiosis in the gut and is targeting one specific bacteria inside. I had Cipro in the past that seemed to knock everything right out. The fungal question is a very good one, I haven't done any work on testing/asking about that. 7. Haven't taken anything over the counter for the diarrhea, I just switch to liquids and keep things light.
In the last week I had a doctor do a comprehensive stool test who found I have a severe dysbiosis and is working on slowly addressing it by giving me Bactrim. (A sniper versus a rocket launcher) He found some issues with neurotransmitters as well, could it be possible this screwed up my nervous system? I've ruled out any stomach problems via endoscopy and will go in for a colonoscopy soon.
Just frustrated all this happened as is still going on after almost 4 months. Any further advice is super helpful.
Should I push for a stronger antibiotic (Cipro) and risk further damage to the intestines?
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
#27067480 - 12/02/20 01:25 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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A. Here is one Potassium option - https://www.amazon.com/Natures-Bounty-Magnesium-Supplement-Vegetarian/dp/B00H5PJ0HW/ref=sr_1_5?crid=95LNPAAMRRUP&dchild=1&keywords=potassium+500mg&qid=1606896466&sprefix=potassium+500%2Caps%2C404&sr=8-5
B. You may definitely wish to research https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-4789-4025/loperamide-oral/loperamide-oral/details
C. You may also definitely wish to research discontinuing all supplements for 48-72 hours and replacing them with Loperamide once every 6 hours and Analfin once every 24 hours. These are key substances that can slow down digestion, and cause a correction even after dis-continuation.
D. I would research a "staple diet", too. Meaning, you eat the exact same meal and portion for a few days to see if you aren't digesting a particular food or foods well. Believe it or not, if you are having a diarrhea-dominant phase, "high-processed" foods like chicken nuggets and pizza can temporarily constipate a person which can actually help solve the diarrhea.
E. Research Ciprofloxacin, and Rifaximin for your anti-biotics. If you are concerned about later re-plenishing good gut bacteria, consider - https://www.amazon.com/Garden-Life-Whole-Probiotic-Supplement/dp/B000GWG8FS/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=probiotic&qid=1606897321&rnid=2941120011&s=hpc&sr=1-12
F. Your doctor sounds like their making money off of you, rather than actually helping you. Consider if that could be the case. Most doctors and nurses have nothing intelligent, honest, or helpful when it comes to the digestive system. I would know. I would really, really, really KNOW...a lot about this.
G. Research IBS-D versus IBS-C versus IBS-Alternating. Be careful with trusting any doctor or nurse in any nation. I seriously believe that they do not have a clue regarding digestive issues, because they struggle with honesty, etiquette, thoroughness, and ethics in their daily lives.
H. For your prostate, consider - https://www.amazon.com/Solaray-Pygeum-Palmetto-Supplement-Count/dp/B0001VVEBC/ref=sr_1_16?crid=KN0I60TR08XO&dchild=1&keywords=prostate+supplements+for+men&qid=1606937774&sprefix=prostat%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-16
Also consider - https://images.app.goo.gl/z7v37XAw9hYee8tL8
I. You asked about your Central Nervous System. All I can say is this....If I thought I had a CNS issue, I would look at it from the following vantage point: Do I feel like I have been hyper or too slow lately. Either way, I would do all three things here - Full body chiropractic care, Electro-Acupuncture, Deep-tissue massage. I would also go for a long walk and try to sweat a lot, or go do a sauna session if fainting is NOT going to be an issue. No coffee. No orange juice. No tea. No alcohol. No recreation substances. If you can hit the gym or do some weights at home, I think that's a good thing. Stretch first. Hot yoga is also excellent under the right Yogi.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Study The CNS]
#27072176 - 12/04/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are some well educated people with medical know-how that bounce around here every so often, so give us some details. Personally I'd love to know what mushrooms were in those capsules. Are you sure they were supposed to be psilocybin and not amanitas? Some of the amanitas can fuck up your liver and kidneys if they get misidentified. That should be in the Doc's differential, and recent unidentified mushroom consumption is a meaningful detail. They might have ruled it out, but I'm skeptical. Anyway...
What tests did your doctor run and what were the results (especially LDH, AST, and ALT for your liver)?
Is the cramping in the whole abdomen, and what triggers it? Is it concurrent with the pain below ribs on your right side? Describe the pain under your ribs if it's different from the cramping (a kidney and the liver are both on right side under ribs)?
Does it anything make either pain/cramps worse or better (pressing on it, time of day, eating, breathing, etc.)?
What is the character of the pain and how bad is it?
Any other pains or related signs\symptoms you didn't mention?
Any changes in skin color or changes in the color of the whites of the eyes?
Any new shoulder pain?
Any unusual itching?
Tell us more about your urine. Is there a pattern with time of day or with meals or certain foods? Any pain when you pee? are you peeing more often? Waking up in the middle of the night to pee? And what were the urine labs and results?
Any changes in pooping? pale stools? dark or dark tarry stools? blood?
Please detail the digestion issues a bit more?
Do you have any other medical conditions that might be related?
Also, could you see the powder in the pills? If so, what color? cubes should be a dark powder. I've never seen amanita powder, but the mushroom has a lot of white colored tissue, so maybe the powder is too?
You've definitely got something wrong with you, and it's concerning. Might not be related to the sketchy mushroom pills, but I wouldn't rule it out with the info available ATM. It'd be nice if you had some capsules left to see what they are. I'd go see another doc at a different facility. 15 lbs weight loss alone is concerning.
Here's a case report on some poor old guy who got poisoned by death caps: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3839837/
If you ate something like them, then your case is less severe, but the article has info you can use as a starting point.
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
#27072422 - 12/04/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, if you have a huge host of symptoms you could try using activated charcoal tablets and lots of water to try and flush any toxins out
I had foamy urine once after tripping. Then again I will get it randomly. I think it stems from diet and your body dumping proteins...I think. I cannot remember college biology right now.
Also had pain under where my liver was. That was psychosomatic
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Mr.GuessWork]
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Mr.GuessWork said: There are some well educated people with medical know-how that bounce around here every so often, so give us some details. Personally I'd love to know what mushrooms were in those capsules. Are you sure they were supposed to be psilocybin and not amanitas? Some of the amanitas can fuck up your liver and kidneys if they get misidentified. That should be in the Doc's differential, and recent unidentified mushroom consumption is a meaningful detail. They might have ruled it out, but I'm skeptical. Anyway...
What tests did your doctor run and what were the results (especially LDH, AST, and ALT for your liver)?
Is the cramping in the whole abdomen, and what triggers it? Is it concurrent with the pain below ribs on your right side? Describe the pain under your ribs if it's different from the cramping (a kidney and the liver are both on right side under ribs)?
Does it anything make either pain/cramps worse or better (pressing on it, time of day, eating, breathing, etc.)?
What is the character of the pain and how bad is it?
Any other pains or related signssymptoms you didn't mention?
Any changes in skin color or changes in the color of the whites of the eyes?
Any new shoulder pain?
Any unusual itching?
Tell us more about your urine. Is there a pattern with time of day or with meals or certain foods? Any pain when you pee? are you peeing more often? Waking up in the middle of the night to pee? And what were the urine labs and results?
Any changes in pooping? pale stools? dark or dark tarry stools? blood?
Please detail the digestion issues a bit more?
Do you have any other medical conditions that might be related?
Also, could you see the powder in the pills? If so, what color? cubes should be a dark powder. I've never seen amanita powder, but the mushroom has a lot of white colored tissue, so maybe the powder is too?
You've definitely got something wrong with you, and it's concerning. Might not be related to the sketchy mushroom pills, but I wouldn't rule it out with the info available ATM. It'd be nice if you had some capsules left to see what they are. I'd go see another doc at a different facility. 15 lbs weight loss alone is concerning.
Here's a case report on some poor old guy who got poisoned by death caps: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3839837/
If you ate something like them, then your case is less severe, but the article has info you can use as a starting point.
Sadly I have no idea what's inside these capsules and neither does the friend who gave them to me. (Yeah, I'm an idiot for taking these) I was microdosing at the time, about .5 grams every few days. I have some left but unsure where I could have them analyzed.
I've been surprised more doctors haven't been interested in the toxicology side; all of my doctors have brushed it off as a moot datapoint and if anything look down on me despite no other drug use. (Not even coffee)
I've had a ton of blood & urine tests. Initially the only high marker for liver was Bilirubin being high (1.4mg/dl) and now it's normal. My ALT and AST is all on the low side, especially my AST (10 IU/L). None of these tests, including 2 ultrasounds and a CT scan show any problems. A endoscopy showed no H Pylori, ulcers, or celiac markers.
No changes to my skin/eye color in terms of yellowing. Closest thing I can think of are my hands having a green tinge sometimes.
The pains are in 3 major areas; all on the right side. Belly button pain, lower right quadrant pain (appendix area), and upper where my rib starts to curve from the breastbone. The first two mentioned hurt hours after eating and could be from floating. The latter simply hurts at random times; when I'm walking, when I'm sitting up right, laying in bed, and of course when at the desk using a keyboard. It comes and goes but can't be made worse by pushing on it. (More visceral than somatic)
I do have pains in my right shoulder blade, which prompted a second ultrasound; no stones, sludge, or thickening of the gallbladder nor any signs of kidney stones. There's a lot of muscle twitching happening as well; my quads, lats, abs, all seem to quiver at random times despite trying to be on top of my electrolytes.
Urine is a wildcard; a nephrologist and urologist all assured me things were good after numerous tests. (Dip, Micro, etc) I was having really cloudy urine after eating and a lot times I would urinate into a container to see if my diet or time was helping. I did notice I usually had a weird oily/fatty film on top of it, like the skin of chicken noodle soup. No doctor can explain that.
My stools are great in the AM, type 3/4, but I have bouts of diarrhea randomly that doesn't seem correlated to anything in my food log. I thought I saw blood in my stool once, which prompted me to get help, but I think it was undigested tomato/hamburger. I've been taking digestive enzymes which I think has helped along with ox bile on occasion (I don't think it helps). When I get diarrhea randomly I do get concerned with the smell; it smells like manure, like I'm on a farm and stepped in horse shit.
With all this said, I've never had any stomach issues in my history until microdosing shrooms. No food sensitivities, no bloating, no pains, nothing. Healthy young guy who stays active physically and mentally. This is why it's so frustrating in two ways; one because I don't know how to be sick and two doctors look at me like it's psychosomatic due to election/covid/insert stress here.
I'm currently working with a functional medicine doctor whose prescribed 3 weeks of sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim along with Saccharomyces boulardii probiotic to take with it, and a lactobaccilus probiotic to take between dosages. So far I'm almost two weeks in and haven't felt much better. Today I just noticed my wrists breaking out into hives after taking a dose.
The dysbiosis report pointed out I'm lacking good bacteria and have too much good bacteria, saying the only two antibiotics that can fight against this are the one I'm taking now or Cipro. My doctor is hesitant to give Cipro due to the risks of getting "floxed".
I had a similar problem back in March; microdosing and got really sick (dizzy, stool problems, abdominal pains) so my doctor shrugged and gave Cipro without blinking. 3 days into it my sides stopped hurting and day 4 I got bad hives/rash so I stopped before my last dose. My doctor refused to give it to me again when this happened recently and claims it's all in my head/stress.
Would it be a bad idea to encourage my new doctor to try a different antibiotic, like Cipro, to see if it kicks away the sharp pains and resets my digestion? Or should I put up with this another month on a weak/wrong antibiotic and see if the probiotics fix everything else?
I'm getting a bit tired/impatient of not being able to work, run, lift, and generally enjoy the things I love. (Especially cooking for my family) Any advice is always appreciated, I'm just trying to look for any ideas in getting better and you guys always seem to help encourage that. Thank you!
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: harketh]
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I'm pretty much at a loss, sorry man. I don't think it's the mushroom poisoning mentioned in that article since your liver enzymes were so good. I do think it's reasonable to suspect it's some kind of GI problem at this point though, so I'd continue with that part of the investigation. You might try fasting for a day or two to see if that makes the pain go away. All those GI organs get more active for a while after you eat, and if not eating makes the pain go away, then I'd lean more towards it being a GI problem of some kind. Sounds like you might have a sulfa allergy too BTW, and that will piss off your bowels. I also wouldn't go begging for antibiotics without knowing more about what's causing the problem. They might not help, and they all have risks. Docs have been trying to get away from cipro when possible because it's been associated with tendon injuries. That might be a worthy risk if you know the cipro is likely to treat the cause, but otherwise it's harder to justify.
the leg twitching might be partly caused by hyperactive bowel movements. Parts of the intestine are really close to where some of the leg muscles attach in the back and pelvis. I pulled my iliopsoas a while back, and the inside of my thigh would twitch and feel sort of restless and irritated when I'd eat a high fiber meal. I finally listened with a stethoscope near the appendix when the muscle irritation was feeling exacerbated, and I heard some truly pissed off bowel sounds. after the bowl sounds chilled out, the muscle irritation mostly went away.
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harketh
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Re: Sick for weeks after eating potentially contaminated shrooms? [Re: Nikon Addict]
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harketh said: Apologies if the symptoms weren't clear. I have had issues with diarrhea over the last few weeks. I switched to the FODMAP diet and its helped make my stool firm. Rice, oats, potatoes, and some fruits while avoiding dairy and gluten. I have had a couple episodes since though.
What was your experience in finding a fix for microbial dysbiosis?
Appreciate your advice here.
Assuming you do have dysbiosis the only proper was of dealing with this is taking a broad spectrum antibiotic which will probably wipe out most if not all of the good bacteria too... Then it's a plant rich diet, pre and probiotics and supplements... A series of fecal implants is really the best way to go but here in the U.S. they're considered experimental still and only allowed for C Diff Colitis which is a shame because it could be used to help many more people for all gut related issues... The only doctors that have a handle on this are those who are trained in functional medicine...
The Institute For Functional Medicine
Do you have any recommendations for approaching dysbiosis? I have a diagnosis via a stool test from a functional medicine doctor but he's against antibiotics. My primary care provided thinks dysbiosis is pseudo-science and won't acknowledge it.
How would I go about finding that broad spectrum antibiotic if those two pathways are blocked? What's a good antibiotic for treating this?
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