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Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed?
#26940226 - 09/17/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So it looks like I've got a few side pins that started growing and then before they even were able to form a veil, the cap is somehow pulling away from the stem.
Now these are PE's so I know they can be very mutant looking at times as I've once had a PE do something like this except it wasn't as small as what I'm getting now.
This is what I've had happen before and it's pretty much doing the same thing just at a lot smaller scale.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940248 - 09/17/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seems your surface conditions are way off.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Shroomymancer]
#26940274 - 09/17/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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hence why i said i have many side pins
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940448 - 09/17/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone have an answer for the question in the Title of the post?
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940484 - 09/17/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can pick them, yes. Like you said, PE will do weird things sometimes, it's common to see the veils breaking early
I have a bad habit of picking mushrooms early since I'm very impatient. They're still potent, still edible. From the point of view of the mushroom itself it may still be immature, since their purpose is to spread spores, but from our POV it's never really too early to pick them. There's no such thing as ripeness when it comes to shrooms, as far as I'm aware
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940490 - 09/17/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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PE won’t be ready for harvest until the bumps on the stipe under the cap appear and the caps go pale. They often tear the veils early but if you look often the gills will still be light in color. This means no spores have begun to mature and the fruit has a ways to go before it’s finished. Here is a pic of the bumps on the stipe forming.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26940503 - 09/17/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you very much for these responses. I had picked 1 or 2 because I was worried about spores, but if they truly haven't matured yet, then there wouldn't be spores unless I'm just being ignorant.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26940504 - 09/17/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.
Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26940508 - 09/17/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weird though how the first one I picked grew like a normal mushroom and not mutant from the looks of it. The veil formed like normal and started to tear and there were nice big gills under it so I took that out. I never saw those bumps.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940512 - 09/17/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of Us said: I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.
Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.
If you don't understand the question, I don't understand how you had an answer, but thanks. My main concern was spores, which I'm sure still drop since spore prints exist.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940513 - 09/17/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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PE is a weird one, it probably still could have matured more if you didn't see the bulging/bumpy stipe
I go by the bumps on the stem under the cap as well
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26940521 - 09/17/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: PE is a weird one, it probably still could have matured more if you didn't see the bulging/bumpy stipe
I go by the bumps on the stem under the cap as well

I see. Those are pretty large if I might say lol. I imagine that was a grain project?
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940526 - 09/17/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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whole wheat inoculated with LI made from blended agar plate
spawned to straight coir (1 brick or ~625grams) and cased at the 7-10 day mark depending on the tub (I case when the sub is 100% colonized these days) I use jiffy seed starter mix straight out the bag as casing
Did you use a casing at all? PE performs much better with a casing
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940527 - 09/17/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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One of Us said: I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.
Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.
If you don't understand the question, I don't understand how you had an answer, but thanks. My main concern was spores, which I'm sure still drop since spore prints exist.
PE usually does not drop spores. They can be collected by swabbing the gills w/ what is basically a sterile Q-tip. Or in the case of spore vendors, I believe they use a centrifuge or something like that to separate the spores
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: sh4d0ws]
#26940531 - 09/17/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: whole wheat inoculated with LI made from blended agar plate
spawned to straight coir (1 brick or ~625grams) and cased at the 7-10 day mark depending on the tub (I case when the sub is 100% colonized these days) I use jiffy seed starter mix straight out the bag as casing
Did you use a casing at all? PE performs much better with a casing
I did not use a casing for this shoebox although I did for my mini mono which now is looking like this
 Everything I am doing is BRF though. Haven't broke the agar surface yet myself. bit busy right now to be learning a whole new method although I know it seems to be the best route. I used to be intimidated by the idea, but now I'm not. Just pretty busy.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: meowjinx] 1
#26940532 - 09/17/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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meowjinx said: PE usually does not drop spores. They can be collected by swabbing the gills w/ what is basically a sterile Q-tip. Or in the case of spore vendors, I believe they use a centrifuge or something like that to separate the spores
This is very interesting. I did not know this and I retract my previous comment about obtaining spore prints.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26940549 - 09/17/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Another tip for knowing when to pick PE is the good ol squeeze test.
Immature fruits are really firm. When they are ready to pick they will be much much softer.
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#26940556 - 09/17/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26940579 - 09/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ya, but sometimes a little pressure on the perineum can coax it back up.... wait, we're talking about mushrooms, nevermind
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: One of Us]
#26940583 - 09/17/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26941743 - 09/18/20 05:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would these answers apply to the pe6 version? I'm not sure if they get lumpy stumps or not
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942336 - 09/18/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Only asking because they look like the other cubes more than they look like the PE I'm used to seeing.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942363 - 09/18/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can just treat PE6 like most other cubes. Pick it just as the veil breaks if you want to maximize size without getting spores everywhere. Or a little earlier if you like the closed cap look.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: One of Us]
#26942369 - 09/18/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So these will drop a lot more spores than the standard PE?
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942379 - 09/18/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Definitely, PE6 readily drops spores like a normal cube
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: One of Us]
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Wow okay, thank you for that information.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942498 - 09/18/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most PE6 are more Texas than PE now. Mine seem to be the almost perfect combination, they grow with the speed and look of regular cubes, fairly potent, dense, and most importantly they don’t really drop spores at all
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Roger Clemency]
#26942504 - 09/18/20 01:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Would you say the original PE's are more potent?
I like being able to have very visual experiences. Very colorful and with breathing effects and objects morphing. However, I've always had trouble getting that effect. I even once took a heroic dose of GT's 6g but I did have a SLIGHT tolerance. Still no visuals. Now I ALWAYS get trails, even on microdoses.
I just don't understand why I can't achieve that visual effect. I've taken LSD more than 100x in my life and have dabbled with Mushies for years on and off. Even on LSD I never got geometric patterns. Just very bright vivid colors, heightened senses, some auditory hallucinations and closed eye visuals..but never really the visuals I got when I first started taking Mushies. I had a few experiences at the beginning where the walls were definitely swaying and breathing and so was the TV, but it never lasted long...hour tops? Maybe?? lol
Maybe I'm not truly human
Oh...and I've had both freshly picked and freshly dried Mushies as well..if that helps anybody maybe understand or know why this might be.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942614 - 09/18/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MisterKush said: Would you say the original PE's are more potent?
I like being able to have very visual experiences. Very colorful and with breathing effects and objects morphing. However, I've always had trouble getting that effect. I even once took a heroic dose of GT's 6g but I did have a SLIGHT tolerance. Still no visuals. Now I ALWAYS get trails, even on microdoses.
I just don't understand why I can't achieve that visual effect. I've taken LSD more than 100x in my life and have dabbled with Mushies for years on and off. Even on LSD I never got geometric patterns. Just very bright vivid colors, heightened senses, some auditory hallucinations and closed eye visuals..but never really the visuals I got when I first started taking Mushies. I had a few experiences at the beginning where the walls were definitely swaying and breathing and so was the TV, but it never lasted long...hour tops? Maybe?? lol
Maybe I'm not truly human
Oh...and I've had both freshly picked and freshly dried Mushies as well..if that helps anybody maybe understand or know why this might be.
6 grams is heroic only on youtube or fb.. Also GT is usually not the most exciting or vivid variety imo. You probably need to take more for the effect you desire.
Personally I find any trips under 10 bonedry grams of cubes a complete waste of time.. don't be limited to what ppl on the tube did and then present to you as if they have done some heroic deed. I bet they would shit their pants with a nice 14gram dose of my RW clone
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Tweeq]
#26942686 - 09/18/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, a concern of mine is that both Mushies or LSD at even low doses can cause a lot of muscle tension in my abdominal area (Belly Button specifically). When this happens on a lot stronger of a dose, it can sometimes get to the point where I can easily pull a muscle that's always the same muscle(s) too and it causes the worst most knife stabbing pain to the point where it hurts to even push when attempting to urinate because of how bad the pain is.
At least I think it's the muscle tension because I've had the are in my body checked out by multiple Dr's and Specialists who can't seem to find out what's going on. This happens to me very rarely too even when I don't trip, but tripping has seemed to induce it AT TIMES. So I just worry that the higher the dose I take and the more intense the effects are, if that pain happens...omg last time it was on a very heavy LSD trip and I felt like I was being reborn in the most painful way I truly thought I had an umbilical hernia but it turns out I don't..
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26942706 - 09/18/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you drink enough water? Sounds like dehydration..
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Tweeq]
#26942711 - 09/18/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really? I used to not actually, but now I drink a gallon a day. That's a HUGE difference compared to what I used to. Why would you link that with dehydration? Just curious.
I should add it usually hits like a train and also when I go from either prone to standing or sitting to standing.
Maybe I've somehow while tripping permanently changed my perspective of what the cause of it is because I've just always considered it an anomaly
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
#26943347 - 09/18/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure but I also experience these muscle 'cramps' when tripping but usually more so when I have not been drinking enough.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
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Hey man I would get a second opinion. I have an umbilical hernia in addition to an inguinal hernia and this is pretty much exactly what I experience and confirmed by my dr. I won’t get it operated on because the mesh they use to repair it has been recalled a bunch of times and the surgeon I saw said it wasn’t big enough. The only thing that I find helps when I experience that pain near my bellybutton is to stretch my arms above my head and stretch my stomach upwards the best I can. Sometimes the pain goes all the way down my right leg though
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
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MisterKush said: Would you say the original PE's are more potent?
I like being able to have very visual experiences. Very colorful and with breathing effects and objects morphing. However, I've always had trouble getting that effect. I even once took a heroic dose of GT's 6g but I did have a SLIGHT tolerance. Still no visuals. Now I ALWAYS get trails, even on microdoses.
I just don't understand why I can't achieve that visual effect. I've taken LSD more than 100x in my life and have dabbled with Mushies for years on and off. Even on LSD I never got geometric patterns. Just very bright vivid colors, heightened senses, some auditory hallucinations and closed eye visuals..but never really the visuals I got when I first started taking Mushies. I had a few experiences at the beginning where the walls were definitely swaying and breathing and so was the TV, but it never lasted long...hour tops? Maybe?? lol
Maybe I'm not truly human
Oh...and I've had both freshly picked and freshly dried Mushies as well..if that helps anybody maybe understand or know why this might be.
They are average potency cubes I’d say. Though I’ve got a good feeling about this clone I’m spawning today.
Eat more mushrooms lol. The last time I ate 80 g fresh I couldn’t see anything but visuals just about. Crazy times. If you take medicine everyday that could be fucking you up trip-wise.
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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Roger Clemency]
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CrashTest said: Hey man I would get a second opinion. I have an umbilical hernia in addition to an inguinal hernia and this is pretty much exactly what I experience and confirmed by my dr. I won’t get it operated on because the mesh they use to repair it has been recalled a bunch of times and the surgeon I saw said it wasn’t big enough. The only thing that I find helps when I experience that pain near my bellybutton is to stretch my arms above my head and stretch my stomach upwards the best I can. Sometimes the pain goes all the way down my right leg though
Interesting. The thing with me is when the pain hits, I can't even extend sometimes. It almost always hurts worse when I try to put my hands above my head. I had a CT done for it once because I took myself to the ER it was so bad. They found nothing there either....had to drink the contrast and all that. When they said they found nothing I asked, well would you be able to see it this way and they told me the Dr said it will find anything. I don't agree with that but I'm not a Dr, hence why I went to another Dr for an endoscopy, they found a Hiatal hernia but that's nowhere near this pain in my belly button, I just get back heartburn from that and mainly in the mornings anymore.
Sounds similar to what you have though. After years of trying to figure this out, you've been the only person to have said they experience the same things. I appreciate you sharing this. Does tripping make it worse for you or trigger it?Quote:
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They are average potency cubes I’d say. Though I’ve got a good feeling about this clone I’m spawning today.
Eat more mushrooms lol. The last time I ate 80 g fresh I couldn’t see anything but visuals just about. Crazy times. If you take medicine everyday that could be fucking you up trip-wise.
Sounds very intense lol
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