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Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed?
    #26940226 - 09/17/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So it looks like I've got a few side pins that started growing and then before they even were able to form a veil, the cap is somehow pulling away from the stem.

Now these are PE's so I know they can be very mutant looking at times as I've once had a PE do something like this except it wasn't as small as what I'm getting now.

This is what I've  had happen before and it's pretty much doing the same thing just at a lot smaller scale.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940248 - 09/17/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Seems your surface conditions are way off.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Shroomymancer]
    #26940274 - 09/17/20 07:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

hence why i said i have many side pins


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940448 - 09/17/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone have an answer for the  question in the Title of the post?


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940484 - 09/17/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can pick them, yes. Like you said, PE will do weird things sometimes, it's common to see the veils breaking early

I have a bad habit of picking mushrooms early since I'm very impatient. They're still potent, still edible. From the point of view of the mushroom itself it may still be immature, since their purpose is to spread spores, but from our POV it's never really too early to pick them. There's no such thing as ripeness when it comes to shrooms, as far as I'm aware


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940490 - 09/17/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

PE won’t be ready for harvest until the bumps on the stipe under the cap appear and the caps go pale. They often tear the veils early but if you look often the gills will still be light in color. This means no spores have begun to mature and the fruit has a ways to go before it’s finished. Here is a pic of the bumps on the stipe forming.




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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26940503 - 09/17/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you very much for these responses. I had picked 1 or 2 because I was worried about spores, but if they truly haven't matured yet, then there wouldn't be spores unless I'm just being ignorant.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26940504 - 09/17/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.

Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26940508 - 09/17/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Weird though how the first one I picked grew like a normal mushroom and not mutant from the looks of it. The veil formed like normal and started to tear and there were nice big gills under it so I took that out. I never saw those bumps.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940512 - 09/17/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.

Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.



If you don't understand the question, I don't understand how you had an answer, but thanks. My main concern was spores, which I'm sure still drop since spore prints exist.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940513 - 09/17/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

PE is a weird one, it probably still could have matured more if you didn't see the bulging/bumpy stipe

I go by the bumps on the stem under the cap as well 



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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26940521 - 09/17/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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PE is a weird one, it probably still could have matured more if you didn't see the bulging/bumpy stipe

I go by the bumps on the stem under the cap as well 





I see. Those are pretty large if I might say lol. I imagine that was a grain project?


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940526 - 09/17/20 11:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

whole wheat inoculated with LI made from blended agar plate

spawned to straight coir (1 brick or ~625grams) and cased at the 7-10 day mark depending on the tub (I case when the sub is 100% colonized these days)
I use jiffy seed starter mix straight out the bag as casing

Did you use a casing at all? PE performs much better with a casing


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940527 - 09/17/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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I don't understand the question. In fact, the title isn't a question, it just ends in a question mark.

Sure you can pick immature fruits, but why not wait until they are mature? PE doesn't really drop spores, so you don't have to worry about a mess of spores.



If you don't understand the question, I don't understand how you had an answer, but thanks. My main concern was spores, which I'm sure still drop since spore prints exist.




PE usually does not drop spores. They can be collected by swabbing the gills w/ what is basically a sterile Q-tip. Or in the case of spore vendors, I believe they use a centrifuge or something like that to separate the spores


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #26940531 - 09/17/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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whole wheat inoculated with LI made from blended agar plate

spawned to straight coir (1 brick or ~625grams) and cased at the 7-10 day mark depending on the tub (I case when the sub is 100% colonized these days)
I use jiffy seed starter mix straight out the bag as casing

Did you use a casing at all? PE performs much better with a casing



I did not use a casing for this shoebox although I did for my mini mono which now is looking like  this

Everything I am doing is BRF though. Haven't broke the agar surface yet myself. bit busy right now to be learning a whole new method although I know it seems to be the best route. I used to be intimidated by the idea, but now I'm not. Just pretty busy.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: meowjinx] * 1
    #26940532 - 09/17/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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PE usually does not drop spores. They can be collected by swabbing the gills w/ what is basically a sterile Q-tip. Or in the case of spore vendors, I believe they use a centrifuge or something like that to separate the spores



This is very interesting.  I did not know this and I retract my previous comment about obtaining spore prints.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: MisterKush]
    #26940549 - 09/17/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Another tip for knowing when to pick PE is the good ol squeeze test.

Immature fruits are really firm. When they are ready to pick they will be much much softer.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: One of Us] * 1
    #26940556 - 09/17/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

When the penis goes soft it’s done.


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26940579 - 09/17/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ya, but sometimes a little pressure on the perineum can coax it back up.... wait, we're talking about mushrooms, nevermind


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Re: Picking Immature Mushrooms That Have Gills Exposed? [Re: One of Us]
    #26940583 - 09/17/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

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When the penis goes soft it’s done.



Quote:

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Ya, but sometimes a little pressure on the perineum can coax it back up.... wait, we're talking about mushrooms, nevermind



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