Home | Community | Message Board


Mycohaus
Please support our sponsors.

Community >> The Pub

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop: Scales

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1
Invisiblelarry.fisherman
octopus fucking starfish
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 32,459
Loc: Swimming in Circles Flag
Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob * 1
    #26938645 - 09/16/20 11:23 AM (7 days, 12 minutes ago)

I got an Akai Pro MPK mini. I was hoping someone might be able give me some resources or some advice starting out. For reference I am what I would consider between intermediate and advanced for music theory knowledge, I've been playing guitar on and off for 13-14 years, just some tips/resources in getting used to a keyboard or midi controller in general would be helpful. Thanks


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblepsi
TOAST N' JAM
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/06/99
Posts: 26,112
Loc: 905 Flag
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26938793 - 09/16/20 12:41 PM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

Similar for me but coming from mostly mando like string instruments. A good starting point is trying to figure out some chord progressions you're familiar with on the other instrument. Or just chord scales too.

Haven't really been systematic about learning chords though. I want to at least learn the triads for every key. What I wanted to find was visual charts of every inversion of every major and minor chord.


--------------------
BAN OP 2020


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblelarry.fisherman
octopus fucking starfish
I'm a teapot User Gallery

Registered: 11/03/12
Posts: 32,459
Loc: Swimming in Circles Flag
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: psi]
    #26938832 - 09/16/20 01:16 PM (6 days, 22 hours ago)

That's probably a good idea, the chord charts. I've used similar stuff with guitar, I have all kinds of handy printouts. I'm used to knowing my chord shapes, note placement, and how to build the chords so it didnt really occur to me that I should maybe just start from square one. When you say you want to know the triads because you need to muscle and visual memory or you need to know the theory? Because major triads and your chords are based around 1,3,5. Minor is a flat 3, diminished i think flat 3, flat 5. Augmented is a sharp 5 ect. You probably already know that though. It's a pretty clear pattern if you just write them out chromatically


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblepsi
TOAST N' JAM
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/06/99
Posts: 26,112
Loc: 905 Flag
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26938949 - 09/16/20 02:40 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

For Irish traditional accompaniment I use mostly just major and minor triads. The vii chord is usually an inversion of the V chord instead of a diminished chord. With the left hand I am usually playing one bass note but sometimes I play chords with both hands.

For noodling on the piano I just use the white keys. You can put your hand into the shape of a triad or inverted triad and wherever you place it, it will make some chord out of a C chord scale. And doing that kind of random placement with both hands, you are making some kind of higher order chord that can be derived from the C scale. Playing only on the white keys maybe is the closest to a fretted instrument for an easy transition at the start. And on a rig like yours you can probably just turn a dial to play in different keys.

On a mandolin (etc) fretboard I can visualize the relationships between notes a lot better. On a piano that kind of geometric understanding pretty much goes out the window (outside of playing in C) because of the irregular distribution of the white and black keys. But I can still use circle of fifths type intuition to know which chords I might play in some weird key with a lot of sharps or flats, it's just that I would not know any voicings of the chords. And sometimes there are recordings I would want to play along with except the tunes that would be in D are in Eb.

The other thing is that certain triads are a hassle ergonomically because of the mix of white and black keys. And my hands are a bit fucked up, so it's good to know what inversions of a given triad are easier to do.


At one point I was working fretboard stuff out on graph paper a lot. The augmented triad can be used as sort of a model for all  the triads, and similar for the diminished 7th chord for 4-note chords. Because the notes are spaced at even intervals, so in effect they are their own inversions. So if you can say "you can make this from a diminished 7th chord by raising one note by a semitone" then you can generate chord shapes up the fretboard of higher inversions.


--------------------
BAN OP 2020


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGypsy Boy
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 2,080
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 2 hours, 38 minutes
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: psi] * 1
    #26938965 - 09/16/20 02:48 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

I got CODE49 keyboard





Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblezZZz
GOD
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 32,912
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26938976 - 09/16/20 02:51 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

nice


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Invisiblepsi
TOAST N' JAM
Male User Gallery

Registered: 09/06/99
Posts: 26,112
Loc: 905 Flag
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: Gypsy Boy] * 1
    #26938980 - 09/16/20 02:52 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

Don't think I have pics on here but I have a pretty basic Yamaha electric piano (NP-32) and a huge late 70s Yamaha synth (SK30). These days I have just been playing the piano though.


--------------------
BAN OP 2020


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGypsy Boy
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 2,080
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 2 hours, 38 minutes
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: psi] * 1
    #26938982 - 09/16/20 02:54 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

I really gotta start putting hours into music making, it was my resolution this year, so far i havent done shit, distracted by covid and other shit


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblezZZz
GOD
Male User Gallery


Registered: 12/28/07
Posts: 32,912
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: psi] * 1
    #26938991 - 09/16/20 02:56 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

shout out to irish music yo


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGypsy Boy
Male


Registered: 03/17/17
Posts: 2,080
Loc: Deep in the discoteka
Last seen: 2 hours, 38 minutes
Re: Keyboard/midi controller crash course for a non-noob [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26939032 - 09/16/20 03:16 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

Quote:

larry.fisherman said:
I got an Akai Pro MPK mini.





Looks like a neat little controller, can take it anywhere with u




Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1

Amazon Shop: Scales

Community >> The Pub

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Keyboards, synthesizers, etc...? Adamist 1,181 9 04/08/03 04:11 PM
by Middleman
* I have a small ink blot on the fretboard of my stratocaster cez 367 12 05/05/17 05:48 PM
by spirit_shadow
* For "Tek/Musician" people - question regarding midi badlydrawnboy 653 6 06/03/06 02:12 PM
by badlydrawnboy
* midi to mp3? *DELETED* roby000 533 5 10/11/05 03:35 AM
by Blastrid
* Another Drug Story (Cops, Deers, Car Crashes, and Crackheads)
( 1 2 3 all )
StrandedVoyager 7,205 40 10/09/08 05:22 AM
by Merkin
* Plane crashes at Pearson Airport InsatiableThirst 1,033 12 08/03/05 03:44 PM
by Ripple
* my brain spilled out onto the keyboard Turd 614 5 05/03/04 12:25 AM
by Turd
* Using a split keyboard kilroy69 712 17 02/03/06 12:29 PM
by DNKYD

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Entire Staff
65 topic views. 12 members, 11 guests and 23 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Print Topic ]
Search this thread:
MushroomCube.com
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2020 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.038 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 13 queries.