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Dark light.
    #26902663 - 08/27/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Everything is divided by darkness and light..

Light equals one or 1 in numerical form.decimal
I'd like to go to the night of less shadow.. ha dou ken.. building a vacuum..

In fact existence is like a vacuum..

Also, darkness is a vacuum.. this the responsibility of dark energy..


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Re: Dark light. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26903023 - 08/27/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Light cannot exist without dark, nor dark without light; yin & yang, ride the tao


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Re: Dark light. [Re: drliquidglitch]
    #26903246 - 08/27/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If light moves via photon arrays.. then why does light not shine in space..?

Why if light is shooting through space does it only show on objects..?

Hence the Sun shines on Earth and to the Moon.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26903426 - 08/28/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If light moves via photon arrays.. then why does light not shine in space..?




Perception can't exist without something to perceive.  Maybe the light doesn't exist until it hits something?


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Forrester]
    #26903433 - 08/28/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm. Or the bodies are attracted to being luminous at that time..


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Re: Dark light. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26903444 - 08/28/20 03:22 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I conjecture that zero point dark energy vacuums the light out of visible existence until it hits a body and therein reflects the light.. or casts the light..


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Re: Dark light. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26913065 - 09/02/20 01:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There's also the neither light nor darkness.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Shroomboofer]
    #26913145 - 09/02/20 04:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Black light?>


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Re: Dark light. [Re: BrendanFlock]
    #26931299 - 09/12/20 07:03 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I come to know that the single most important prerequisite to ascension is unifying the opposites.

The word Baphomet literally means 'a union of opposites, or the mysterious equillibrium.'



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Re: Dark light. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #26931348 - 09/12/20 08:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

What, nobody said it yet?


Nature abhors a vacuum.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Asante]
    #26931811 - 09/12/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Clear light.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: drliquidglitch] * 1
    #26932710 - 09/12/20 11:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Light cannot exist without dark, nor dark without light; yin & yang, ride the tao




This is actually incorrect, as is OP's opening assertion/claim, but I know what you guys mean here. Opposites do not imply corollaries, very common philosophy error:

Corollaries are a single conceptual essence, broken into purely semantic distinctions, mostly for linguistic efficiency.

Opposites are utterly antipodal, mutually exclusive concepts.

The presence of one does not demand the simultaneous equal representation of the other; in fact, by definition, and apropos, quite the opposite is true.

The presence of one implies the utter absence of the other in a given context. If X is going up, for example, X is not going down. Now, I understand that it is the inexorable inverse linguistic-semantic relationship between opposites which gives them a veneer of corollary relationship…of symbiosis. But in any practical application, this relationship is simply not so. If X goes up, X is not also going down; if X goes left, X is not also going right. To imply otherwise gives us neither opposite nor corollary, but a contradiction.

Consider this classic Jung quote for another example of this:

”Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word happy would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness.”

Now, from this we can approach the distinction between opposites and corollaries from another important angle. Opposites like “happiness” and “sadness” are not corollary because, unlike true corollaries, they are always contextual, and thus always subjective. In other words, opposite concepts are not axiomatic, they are merely practical. They are always subject to a particular frame of reference.

They do not apply equally to all people at all times, even given that opposites share an inverse relationship when taken purely abstractly. “Happiness” in a given individual context does not necessarily imply “sadness” at all, like “up” does not necessarily imply “down”, or “left” imply “right”.

If I point to the top shelf in the pantry and say to someone “the cereal is up there”, I'm not giving any value, and certainly not an equal, corollary amount, to “down there”. To assume otherwise simply confuses the issue and muddies the context of the statement.

Certainly, we might make the basic, obvious semantic claim that “up there”, generally speaking, implies a “down there” generally speaking; but with opposites, unless we are in a grammar or linguistics class we are never speaking generally when using concepts like “up”, “down”, “left, “right”, etcetera. In other words, the notions of “up there” and “down there” never really come up nonspecifically. There is always a  particular “who” or a “what” to provide context.

Sorry to take this to too high a level, this is how my brain works.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Loaded Shaman]
    #26932838 - 09/13/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

TBH I really don't get much of what you're saying there, but...

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The presence of one does not demand the simultaneous equal representation of the other




I don't think anyone says that.  Only that the presence of one implies the existence of the other.

Say I had a good day yesterday.

What the hell is good?

The word is utterly meaningless without something less desirable to compare it to.  You cannot have good without bad.  Alan Watts gets into this all the time.

No?


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Forrester]
    #26934934 - 09/14/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What if I asserted that I was always happy?  That I never dipped below the happiness threshold.  Subjectively, sadness does not exist and I certainly don't entertain it.  Aka, I would say imo that the implication is in the potential.  Does it necessitate the existence?

If there's a tall cabinet where only one shelf exists actually towards the top of the cabinet, is it the top shelf?


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Yellow Pants]
    #26935360 - 09/14/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ah, but you've been not happy at one point in your life at least, or how would you know you're happy now? 

You could say so, but the word happy would be absolutely meaningless to you other than an abstract concept that you don't understand.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Forrester]
    #26935419 - 09/14/20 03:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:musky:

In summary, I am not sure.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
    #26938261 - 09/16/20 12:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I come to know that the single most important prerequisite to ascension is unifying the opposites.

The word Baphomet literally means 'a union of opposites, or the mysterious equillibrium.'







This resonates to me.

But I came to a very similar position back when I was, shall we say "feeling it". The concept of scale kept coming up over and over, from its actual physical manifestations to the psychological ones. I have a lot written down somewhere, but one of the main things I remember was this idea that when your looking at mental constructs like political leanings (left vs right) or religion (atheist vs believer) or what ever other opposing position you can imagine, that it was the outliers or extremes that were actually the closest together. If someone is rabid, vocal racist for example, they would more easily become the opposite than a moderate. As if you just took the line graph measuring racist thinking and connected the ends.

It evolved into this idea that there is some sweet spot, a neutral(ish) place where one would ideally situate their mind. Being able to embrace opposite, even foreign ways of thinking without bias seemed a worthy aspiration.

Here is PM I wrote to someone at the time (so this was near the beginning of the story arc with these ideas) who had asked me what it took to realize what I had realized.

I have actually been trying to figure that out.  First, it requires a completely open mind.  A good start is to try your best to think like someone you despise.  If you are liberal, try to understand conservatives, or vice versa.  Not religious, then try to understand the religious.  Don't believe in conspiracy theories, then believe in them.  Whatever it is you define yourself as, try being the opposite.

The only directive is, never impose your will on someone else.  Understand that there is value in every way of thinking.  Even the people you disagree with are free to think what they want.

This will help cultivate the mindset that will allow you understand what I am going to try to convey to everyone.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #26938271 - 09/16/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Darkness, in the most common definition is just the absence of light.  I think what you are referring to is more accurately described as the void/base non-state.

Interestingly, the dark light title you used reminded me of the strangest encounter of my life. I think about it all the time.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16044162

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Back in February I met an older Indian couple, red dot, not feather.  I was walking around talking to them about what they do and why they had just decided to move here.  They were really nice and I was enjoying our conversation immensely as I began to realize the women seemed very focused on me.  Sure, I'm a good looking guy and attention toward me is not unusual, but this was about to prove very different.

I was at the bottom of this huge circular stair case, a really grand affair, looking straight up and just appreciating the beauty of the design.  I hadn't even noticed she had walked up to me and I suddenly heard her say, "I can tell you see the light between (or maybe in between)."

I cast my look downward on her and she immediately turned her head to the side, shielding her eyes at the same time and audibly gasped.  Then she began laughing hysterically.  I was a bit taken aback and unsure what the hell was going on so I didn't say anything about it.  But for the rest of the time she around me, every time I would look her direction I found her looking at me and she would again turn her head and start giggling.  Until she left she just had this huge grin on her face.

I searched for the phrase but found nothing.  Any ideas what she meant by this?





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Re: Dark light. [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #26938315 - 09/16/20 02:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think the best response from that thread was this one:

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The light between the essence of spirit, and the manifestation of the perceivable world of matter.




The light between, or the space between, is a concept I've come across a lot in the more mystical texts, and also where some of those concepts meet quantum physics.  The world of matter is thought to be composed of protons, neutrons, electrons etc. but in reality solid matter is non-existent and it's the forces between those "things" that do the acting.  Where the energy/light/spirit can be found.  Sorry this is a terrible way to explain it, and I have a poor understanding of quantum physics myself, but you might check into that field and see if anything strikes you.


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Re: Dark light. [Re: Forrester]
    #26938337 - 09/16/20 02:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I actually know a fair bit about quantum mechanics but nothing you said so far is resonating.

As I was thinking just now though, I remember my wife reading the original thread and she said she thought I had told her something different at the time (the thread was 7 months after the event).  She thought I had told her that the lady said "I can tell you can see the light in between the dark." But although it was 7 months later, I didn't remember it that way. She may have been right though.


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