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Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin?
    #26937947 - 09/15/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone have experience working through childhood trauma, especially dealing with parental issues?

I'm working through some shit and apparently this childhood trauma baggage has a lot more emotional weight than I thought. Now my relationship is basically all but diminished with both of my parents and I'm just not sure how I can heal at this point. I've already tried talking to them about this shit and they don't wanna hear it, so I'm left to my own devices.

I'm not new to trying to heal with psilocybin or therapy or anything, I'm just terrible at it


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Wall.E]
    #26938009 - 09/15/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Psilocybin is sacred. Practice vipassana meditation daily, starting now. It only takes 5 minutes a day, but you should work your way up in time. In-fact, studies have shown that those who meditate experience psychedelics differently. Secondly, you must set your intention pre-trip to healing such trauma. I do not recommend tripping often (as this diminishes the magic, IMO), but rather setting down a special time, a special place, and special intentions. Mushrooms will show you what you must see.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Wall.E]
    #26938053 - 09/15/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Myc_Hunt said:
Does anyone have experience working through childhood trauma, especially dealing with parental issues?

I'm working through some shit and apparently this childhood trauma baggage has a lot more emotional weight than I thought. Now my relationship is basically all but diminished with both of my parents and I'm just not sure how I can heal at this point. I've already tried talking to them about this shit and they don't wanna hear it, so I'm left to my own devices.

I'm not new to trying to heal with psilocybin or therapy or anything, I'm just terrible at it




IME high doses among other things tended to dredge up childhood issues to where they could be worked through.  Learned some interesting stuff that way. :cookiemonster:


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26938082 - 09/15/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Hey man check out psychedelic groups on social media. Maybe put out in a post that you are looking for a guide or someone to help with medicine assisted therapy there are people out there who will do work under the table because they believe in the process.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: polyflakes]
    #26938361 - 09/16/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've tried meditating and I can't find time to do it, my house is a circus.

This is my social media lol, I'm not on anything else.

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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26938492 - 09/16/20 07:00 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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IME high doses among other things tended to dredge up childhood issues to where they could be worked through.  Learned some interesting stuff that way. :cookiemonster:




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From my current experience, psilocybin has aided in the healing of some of my childhood traumas spontaneously. Not every trip has been beneficial in that aspect, although a couple have been extraordinarily helpful.

But I never took any specific steps to set up a specific healing experience before dosing. This may be directly causally responsible for not having as much success at it as I'd like. Another factor is I may not have taken a high enough dose yet. My 3-3.5g range seems a bit low. I imagine, like Primal said, you'd need a high dose to really put your guard down. I've had one dose like that where my ego was put aside and the traumas flowed into my view, allowing me to face them.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26938547 - 09/16/20 08:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, and having gone down these roads before with high doses plus the sensitivity I have to mind altering drugs and states I have a lot of hesitation in doing it again.

I know it's probably what I need to do, but I need to make sure that it's going to be worth it, because the last time I ate a monster dose it was 4.5g of ape, I pissed myself, almost drowned and scared my wife and son, so that was lit.

So I need a trip sitter and to be with them alone, maybe outdoors or something, but I need to have these wounds fresh in my mind. But with everything else going on, it's hard to stay focused on it


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26938584 - 09/16/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I've had stuff/thoughts come up about parent issues, about those times in your life when you just want a hug and give love/be loved, but all you  get is a kick in the teeth because your misunderstood or because of others agendas. That's the stuff that kills you inside. That's the kind of shit that gets buried deep down and forgotten because you've got to live with yourself. You can access that without shrooms, bodywork/healing/trauma therapy will access it and make it conscious. If that's what is going to help enjoy life and feel safe/comfortable with yourself then mybe it needs to be done. I don't know, I'm not a shrink, its difficult working through that yourself, it needs courage to face, a little at a time may work. Sometimes I feel mybe its best to let it go. If spending time with parents makes you feel crap, find other people who you find joy to be around, thats some of the best advice I've heard. Self rant over.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: MetalSlug]
    #26938637 - 09/16/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The right dose of fungi, the right intent, and the right set & setting can indeed potentially help one evaluate & heal childhood trauma(s) - and adult trauma(s).  I know first hand.  Another thing, seems to work even better for some people when the above is coupled with daily meditation (anapanasati)  & CBT (self taught & applied daily - or learned & guided by a professional). 


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Wall.E]
    #26938870 - 09/16/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Myc_Hunt said:
I know it's probably what I need to do, but I need to make sure that it's going to be worth it, because the last time I ate a monster dose it was 4.5g of ape, I pissed myself, almost drowned and scared my wife and son, so that was lit.




Would you mind sharing a bit more about what happened, as well as set and setting? How was your family exposed to your trip? How did you intend your trip to go down and where did it start to deviate from the plan?


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: funky123]
    #26939100 - 09/16/20 01:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Myc_Hunt said:
I know it's probably what I need to do, but I need to make sure that it's going to be worth it, because the last time I ate a monster dose it was 4.5g of ape, I pissed myself, almost drowned and scared my wife and son, so that was lit.




Would you mind sharing a bit more about what happened, as well as set and setting? How was your family exposed to your trip? How did you intend your trip to go down and where did it start to deviate from the plan?




Nothing special, I trip alone at home with the wife and kid in bed. This time I got stuck in repetitive motion syndrome trying to take a bath and my body kept giving out.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Wall.E]
    #26939107 - 09/16/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I suggest the Completion Process by Teal Swan.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: rustygrape]
    #26940481 - 09/17/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Recently read:
The Body Keeps the Score - By Bessel van der Kolk

It was a fairly good read, some good information in there.

EMDR (Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) was interesting, it seems nuts that it could work, but i tried it on myself, you can see it done on youtube. Set an intention, do the rapid hand wave on yourself and keep asking yourself what am I feeling now every minute.
It's strange how it brings up memories from the past out of nowhere, and then keep doing it until your ok with those feelings/thoughts.

I only did it a few times as it can bring up some strong emotions...

Funny how Bessel van der Kolk doesn't really mention meditation in the book, I think a lot of people struggle with sitting still. I've done quite a bit in the past but don't do it so much nowadays, I prefer bodywork, yoga to ground myself. It's easy to turn meditation into a mental struggle and make it hard work without the loving kindness of metta and good body awareness.

Alice miller - The Drama of the Gifted child

Definitely worth a read, essential.

Tried having a bath on tab of lsd once, it was amazing to start with, all the vapour and mist. So good to just get deeper and deeper into the warmth of the water. Problem was jerking up out of the water when I couldn't breathe. Kind of almost shit myself, :laugh:

Take care bud.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: MetalSlug]
    #26940568 - 09/17/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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MetalSlug said:
Recently read:
The Body Keeps the Score - By Bessel van der Kolk

It was a fairly good read, some good information in there.

EMDR (Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing) was interesting, it seems nuts that it could work, but i tried it on myself, you can see it done on youtube. Set an intention, do the rapid hand wave on yourself and keep asking yourself what am I feeling now every minute.
It's strange how it brings up memories from the past out of nowhere, and then keep doing it until your ok with those feelings/thoughts.

I only did it a few times as it can bring up some strong emotions...

Funny how Bessel van der Kolk doesn't really mention meditation in the book, I think a lot of people struggle with sitting still. I've done quite a bit in the past but don't do it so much nowadays, I prefer bodywork, yoga to ground myself. It's easy to turn meditation into a mental struggle and make it hard work without the loving kindness of metta and good body awareness.

Alice miller - The Drama of the Gifted child

Definitely worth a read, essential.

Tried having a bath on tab of lsd once, it was amazing to start with, all the vapour and mist. So good to just get deeper and deeper into the warmth of the water. Problem was jerking up out of the water when I couldn't breathe. Kind of almost shit myself, :laugh:

Take care bud.




I'd like to add When the Body Says No by Gabor Maté as a highly recommended read for the purpose of reflecting and learning about past trauma.



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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: funky123]
    #26940609 - 09/17/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think that the most important thing is to be aware that the thoughts and feelings that you have are real, and when they arise there is not need to judge them or yourself.

Having the painful memories is what is natural because some bad stuff really happened.
It is not happening still, but it did happen, it was real and you really feel how you feel about it and it is ok now.

You want to make space in your mind for the feelings, defensiveness, and pain, and you want to be cool with it rather than stuck on it.

You want to get to the point that you add no further energy or reactions to what is already a large complex in your mind - which got that way from all the previous efforts to erase the memory, resist the pain, cauterize the wounds, or whatever else you have tried to get over it.

All are and were valiant attempts to deal, so do not judge them or yourself or even the people who perpetrated pain upon you. Just let it rest as it is.

When it comes up again, resume making space for it, accepting the honesty of it, and not judging or trying to revise any of it. Just let it rest as it is.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Wall.E]
    #26940707 - 09/17/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

In my case I knew my dad wouldn't wanna hear what I needed to say nor did I have the balls to do it in his face.

So I just wrote him a letter 10 pages long which took 3 days or something to write. He never actually got to read the letter. But the writing healed some important part of my being I don't know how to explain. I think that when we start to write down stuff the brain just rewires some loose bolts or something.
I cried and felt so much lighter afterwards.

After that I got the realisation of what I needed to say to him and we met and we talked and that was it but he never got to read that letter.

I am glad he did not because the letter had so much hanger and repressed emotions in it that he would probably stop by page one.

If you try this be sure to write everything down you feel with no judgement. Write as if you were really convinced they will read it. And maybe they will. In my case I chose after I wrote it not to send it.

Anyway wish you all the best.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: redgreenvines]
    #26940818 - 09/17/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Top tier suggestion right there from RGV,  I would take it to heart.  It’s valuable.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: goatchild]
    #26941035 - 09/17/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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goatchild said:
In my case I knew my dad wouldn't wanna hear what I needed to say nor did I have the balls to do it in his face.

So I just wrote him a letter 10 pages long which took 3 days or something to write. He never actually got to read the letter. But the writing healed some important part of my being I don't know how to explain. I think that when we start to write down stuff the brain just rewires some loose bolts or something.
I cried and felt so much lighter afterwards.

After that I got the realisation of what I needed to say to him and we met and we talked and that was it but he never got to read that letter.

I am glad he did not because the letter had so much hanger and repressed emotions in it that he would probably stop by page one.

If you try this be sure to write everything down you feel with no judgement. Write as if you were really convinced they will read it. And maybe they will. In my case I chose after I wrote it not to send it.

Anyway wish you all the best.



YES! Learned this in psych 101. It helps just to purge. Also one can review it at a later date and see things in a way not previously viewed. Journals are really helpful.


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26941751 - 09/18/20 05:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

that's one of the most beautiful things I have read red

true

it summarises it


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Re: Healing childhood trauma using psilocybin? [Re: Ferdinando]
    #26943426 - 09/19/20 01:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Have you read the Secret Chief?  There is a free pdf available on the MAPS website.  There was a part in there where they described collecting photos from your childhood, and of your parents/family.  I think they are following a somewhat similar procedure in the Imperial College trials for people with severe depression.  The process they described seems like it would be useful for early childhood traumas.


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