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cuties * 1
    #26937565 - 09/15/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone seen this? I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet. For those that aren't aware, Netflix put out this movie that consists of essentially a bunch of 10-12 year olds finding their sexuality through provocative dance. They're in skimpy clothing and twerking. I think I heard something about one of the girls sexting a pic of her privates.

They "auditioned" over 600 little girls for this meaning a bunch of grown men sat around debating which of the little girl's ass shaking is star-worthy. I kind of hope no one has seen this shit but at the same time I'd love to know how much of what is being told is truth. I don't want to see the fucking thing. But I know people are disgusted, Netflix is losing subs. You've got rating wars between the paid, the pedos, and the average person on rating sites like Rotten Tomatoes. They're refusing to take it down basically calling people snowflakes. Changed the description, the thumbnail/picture. It's rated for sexual content.

I don't even know what's going on anymore. You've got this MAPs shit popping up, which is PC jargon for pedophile. "Minor Attracted Persons." Fucking Mulan being filmed in active concentration camps.

The world is literally ready to fall to shit.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26937727 - 09/15/20 06:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Only because qanon is going apeshit over it


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Re: cuties [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26937764 - 09/15/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Personally I wouldn't watch it, but if it is truly coming of age content for tween girls I can't see a problem. Sure some sickos will watch it. Whatever though, we can't sanitize the world because of thought crime

Perhaps the advantage of having health and sex education put into context, with all the warnings and caveats played out in a way that hits home, is a good thing. Educated people make better decisions. That's if that's what it is about I fully support it.


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Re: cuties [Re: Northerner] * 2
    #26937948 - 09/15/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I agree 100%  Pedophilia is the rampant hidden secret among the elite.  They follow no laws, they make their own.


Watch the movie "Out of the Shadows"



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Re: cuties [Re: RobZombie68] * 2
    #26937979 - 09/15/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: cuties [Re: budmanman] * 1
    #26938084 - 09/15/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Omg that cant b real


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Re: cuties [Re: ichugwindex] * 4
    #26938096 - 09/15/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It's real Joe Biden really nutted in her and then watched cuties.


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Re: cuties [Re: budmanman] * 2
    #26938097 - 09/15/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah I'm not gonna watch that shit, it's straight up pedo shit on netflix and I'm disgusted how they exploit young girls like that

Think about all the moms that lined their kid up to twerk it in front of a bunch of old dudes


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Re: cuties [Re: TranceDaDude] * 1
    #26938163 - 09/15/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

sounds like timeless poverty when you put it that way


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Re: cuties [Re: RobZombie68] * 1
    #26938207 - 09/15/20 11:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I honestly believe pedophilia is alot more common than people realize especially among women.


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Re: cuties [Re: Northerner] * 1
    #26938381 - 09/16/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Personally I wouldn't watch it, but if it is truly coming of age content for tween girls I can't see a problem. Sure some sickos will watch it. Whatever though, we can't sanitize the world because of thought crime

Perhaps the advantage of having health and sex education put into context, with all the warnings and caveats played out in a way that hits home, is a good thing. Educated people make better decisions. That's if that's what it is about I fully support it.



Its not for tween girls. It's made about tween girls. It's mature rated for sexual content. It's definitely not what you're hoping it is. At least from what I have gathered.


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Re: cuties [Re: morrowasted] * 2
    #26938390 - 09/16/20 04:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Only because qanon is going apeshit over it



I haven't heard anything about qanon since it first popped up. This is all over dude. The reaction has very little to do with 4chan. If you think it's just 4chan getting worked up then by all means watch the little girls dance and tell us what you think.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #26938453 - 09/16/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Netflix should be be cancelled, "Cuties" is an abomination and promotes pedophilia.


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Re: cuties [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26938528 - 09/16/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Omg that cant b real



It’s not real.

Also if you think the film is about encouraging pedophilia you have wildly missed the point.


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Re: cuties [Re: poofdargon] * 4
    #26938532 - 09/16/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Missing the point? That is fucking retarded. Should we all just watch some child porn because it'll be so woke how we can all just sit there like, "Yeah thats bad." If you think thats a point that needs made them youre out of your fucking mind. Its literally content fucked up people will jerk off to under the guise of being something progressive. They created these situations, they auditioned hundreds of little girls on the topic of erotic dancing just so you could point out how woke that is. You're the one missing the point, again. Congrats. It's called 'exploiting children'


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26938540 - 09/16/20 08:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Once again, you either didn’t see it or missed the point. It’s none of those things you’ve mentioned. God you’re just like the conservative pundits. Those who call it child porn haven’t seen it or they don’t get the point being put across.


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Re: cuties [Re: poofdargon] * 3
    #26938551 - 09/16/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Did i say it was fucking child porn? I swear to god it's like speaking to a retard. Comprehend the things being spoken please. What fucking purpose does it serve? Should the kids be exploited? Should they be doing these things? If the network acknowledges its mature, sexual content then what is to stop someone who would find that attractive to appreciate it and not think its hot shit. Lets get woke yeah, "Oh wow, pedo bad. So woke. Im learning. Pop that pussy, hun." That's the fucking point. Its shoving peoples noses in shit when there happens to be a sizable population of people who like eating shit. You think they should encourage that? You think we need people to tell us what theyre doing is wrong? So what is the fucking point, then? Come on genius, tell me why little girls being sexual for you is something that should be on television.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26938572 - 09/16/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Did i say it was fucking child porn? I swear to god it's like speaking to a retard. Comprehend the things being spoken please. What fucking purpose does it serve? Should the kids be exploited? Should they be doing these things? If the network acknowledges its mature, sexual content then what is to stop someone who would find that attractive to appreciate it and not think its hot shit. Lets get woke yeah, "Oh wow, pedo bad. So woke. Im learning. Pop that pussy, hun." That's the fucking point. Its shoving peoples noses in shit when there happens to be a sizable population of people who like eating shit. You think they should encourage that? You think we need people to tell us what theyre doing is wrong? So what is the fucking point, then? Come on genius, tell me why little girls being sexual for you is something that should be on television.




For the love of God man stop being stupid and reactionary. The movie literally won several awards in the country of origin, France, and the only reason people are ticked off is because of a colossal marketing mistake.

The film is a coming of age movie but it takes an unvarnished look and insight into what we are teaching young girls. It's the story of a young Muslim girl who is caught between the traditions of home and that of the culture around her. The whole movie is her trying to find her way through what society is telling girls is considered mature. All the dances are scene through the eyes of a young girl who thinks this is what it is to grow up. When it finally gets to the scene you are so grossed out for the veil is lifted from her eyes.

It's a glaring and stark view of what society does to girls, telling them they have to move and act like that to be grown up. Any girl with a phone will see this growing up or on TV. How many role models are famous for girls who aren't gyrating their pelvis. Kids imitate what they see on TV and if seeing young girls do that is horrifying, well...that's the point. Art must be able to shock and hold a mirror up to society which is what this director did.

Honestly, now I get why the French call us stupid Americans.


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Re: cuties [Re: poofdargon] * 1
    #26938608 - 09/16/20 08:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ok now do one where you virtue signal defending girls who use only fans.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 2
    #26938624 - 09/16/20 09:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Watch Wubby break it down guys.



Its fucked up, and anyone who is defending it hasn't watched it or is a pedo.


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Re: cuties [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #26938627 - 09/16/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I won't watch it. Some people are saying it is celebrating pedophilia, some say its highlighting modern pageants young girls dance in, to show how its inappropriate. If it is attempting to highlight how its inappropriate they don't need to broadcast footage of little girls in risque outfits, to show how wrong it is.

Bad move on Netflix IMO.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 3
    #26938629 - 09/16/20 09:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Has anyone actually watched it? JW?


I don't believe in the sexualization of young girls. The second I sprouted tits I was being harassed by fully grown men who were my father's age. I was 13. It's rampant and it goes on with or without cancel culture. I don't know what this movie is about, but it seems like it should be netflix that should be coming under fire for the way they promoted it.


Has anyone actually watched it or is everyone just jumping into the meme machine and letting all original thought and opinion go out the window, again. Genuinely curious as I've not watched it either - but I'm getting the impression that no one here has either.


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Re: cuties [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26938633 - 09/16/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

and they say white people don't have culture!! pfft.


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    #26938641 - 09/16/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I havent watched it, but I feel like I get all the evidence I need that it is fucked up from Wubby's Video



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Re: cuties [Re: The Mycologist] * 1
    #26938650 - 09/16/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I havent watched it, but I feel like I get all the evidence I need that it is fucked up from Wubby's Video






"Wubby's" video  was made so that pedophiles could watch little girls shake their asses. "Wubby" and all of "Wubby's" followers are pedophiles.


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Re: cuties [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26938666 - 09/16/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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pirate-blues said:
Has anyone actually watched it? JW?


I don't believe in the sexualization of young girls. The second I sprouted tits I was being harassed by fully grown men who were my father's age. I was 13. It's rampant and it goes on with or without cancel culture. I don't know what this movie is about, but it seems like it should be netflix that should be coming under fire for the way they promoted it.


Has anyone actually watched it or is everyone just jumping into the meme machine and letting all original thought and opinion go out the window, again. Genuinely curious as I've not watched it either - but I'm getting the impression that no one here has either.




Consensus seems to be like everyone here has suddenly become a bible thumper in their attitude toward this film. It doesn't seem like anyone has seen it because if they did they likely wouldn't be saying such things.

Like I mentioned the film won quite a few awards in France and the woman who made it conducted 18 months of research for the film to show the problems it tries to portray. The entire cast received a full explanation of everything that was to take place and why.

Those who criticize this film for being pedophilia don't know a thing about it.


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    #26938669 - 09/16/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I haven’t seen it so I cannot form an opinion - or say anything about it one way or the other. 
But I do know - There’s always something worse out there *cough porn * and other crappy or disgusting films*. 

To cleanse the Mind’s palate I offer this film below,
It is a (wholesome: Rated PG) tragic romcom drama depicting the life of various shroomery graems & smileys - enjoy!

:whatever:  :imslow:  :wow:  :tearchalice:  :tinfoil:  :facepalm:  :crankey:

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Re: cuties [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
    #26938691 - 09/16/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What I just saw in that YouTube video is NOT okay
I had to stop watching.  Fucking sick ass perverted fucks with their bullshit justification of inexcusable behavior.

I don’t even think it’s too far of a stretch to almost consider this criminal. 


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Re: cuties [Re: The Mycologist] * 2
    #26938696 - 09/16/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I havent watched it, but I feel like I get all the evidence I need that it is fucked up from Wubby's Video








alright. So I feel icky after watching most of this and agree that the film is exploitative of young children - but I don't necessarily agree that the film's message is glorifying pedophilia, as someone who was apart of the dance world it seems to me, like more a statement on the oversexualization of children, and that it's sort of supposed to gross you out. Whether is actually accomplished that in any significant why, obviously, I can't speak on. Watching those scenes of 11 year olds feels disgusting and exploitative to me, and maybe the director intended that. Doesn't make it okay, or a good thing, but I fail to see how this is necessarily glorification.




But dance competitions can be this bad in general, as well, as someone who has taken part in them around that age - which is why I could see why the director is like 'oh no it's against the sexualization of children' - particularly with the sexualization of girls that age. It's a sign of a larger issue.



It's also exploiting the children who are acting in those roles, and I don't condone that - but it's honestly not THAT far off from certain dance competitions involving children now. I get why people feel uncomfortable watching it, and why there's backlash.






https://www.researchgate.net/publication/327324990_Sexualization_of_Prepubescent_Girls_in_Dance_Competition_Innocent_Fun_or_%27Sexploitation%27


Take a looksie. The dance world can be absolutely fucked, and little girls are sexualized like this constantly - though Cuties seems to push it to a whole new level of grotesque and I get why people are uncomfortable. Let's not even get started on the child beauty pageants.


I don't think you can be mad at this movie, and simultaneously okay with those things, and be considered logically consistent.


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    #26938701 - 09/16/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

THEYRE SPREADING THEIR LIPS ON FUCKIN SCREEN!  It’s not even close to an inappropriate dance moms routine. From what I saw in both videos.  I don’t think I could ever be convinced this is appropriate; regardless of what kind of “social commentary” you can invent for it

If that was your daughter in one of those routines, would your or would you not see how sick it is?


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Re: cuties [Re: Kelazam] * 1
    #26938742 - 09/16/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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and they say white people don't have culture!! pfft.




Dayum what a take.


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Re: cuties [Re: Urinal Grease] * 1
    #26938771 - 09/16/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ugh...  I couldn't even watch the review through. :uhoh:

I take back everything I said.


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Re: cuties [Re: theRealrollforever] * 1
    #26938787 - 09/16/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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THEYRE SPREADING THEIR LIPS ON FUCKIN SCREEN!  It’s not even close to an inappropriate dance moms routine. From what I saw in both videos.  I don’t think I could ever be convinced this is appropriate; regardless of what kind of “social commentary” you can invent for it

If that was your daughter in one of those routines, would your or would you not see how sick it is?






Missed that section. And no, I wouldn't. I don't think I said anything that condoned it. In fact I said literally, I don't condone it.


I'm just trying to have an actual discussion about it and some of the things that have affected me personally, as someone who's been a young girl, who has dealt with oversexualization - both in general, and as a dancer. But clearly there's no room for a larger discussion here, especially if you're GONNA GET ALL CAPS LOCKY on me.


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Re: cuties [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26938867 - 09/16/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Trump and his beauty pageant days. . . .  :noway:

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    #26938893 - 09/16/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That’s the point. It’s to shock people into taking notice. Everyone wants to write it off as porn, well look around. This is literally everywhere. Girls are being told that this is what it is to grow up and mature, and they are prone to imitation.

Is it hard to watch, yes. But watch you must to comprehend. It’s like how starship troopers mocks the audience with how over the top it is and calls attention to societal problems.


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    #26938907 - 09/16/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Has anyone seen this? I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.




Actually Larry there is a huge thread in the Political forum about the subject and you posted in it numerous times, so I doubt you are honestly suprised at it not having been mentioned, I think you instead want to graft a fruitful discussion to another forum :sun:

Trying to have an Enlil-free discussion about it on the side? :wink:


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The world is literally ready to fall to shit.





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    #26938914 - 09/16/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

At least the children that Trump creeped on were teenagers :elmo::mad2:.











I would say we've already normalized sexualization of young pre-pubescent children in some circles, and Cuties takes it to a new grotesque extreme, personally. I don't think it's okay, I don't know that taking it off netflix will do much more than soothe our triggered feels, rather than accomplish something actionable that helps children. But who knows.

The overly emotional selective outrage is tiresome, at best, as well. Especially because the only decent thing that can come of this movie is a stark conversation about ugly aspects of our society(and..probably French society too.) I do feel for the girls in the film though, and the idea that a grown adult was coercing them to twerk for the camera skeeves me out regardless of whether it was for 'high art' or not, it makes absolutely no difference. Whole movie seems to me to be something like this :



We sexualized 11 year olds to show that society sexualizing 11 year olds is gross and wrong.






I don't know that the movie shouldn't be taken off netflix. But I don't think it's attempting to normalize or glorify, I do think it's trying to do the opposite. I do not agree that it's right, or okay, or that it's 'worth it' for art, or anything. I just would like to actually have some discussion of it.


Especially since so many of the people here are so outspoken about cancel culture. :rolleyes:


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    #26938919 - 09/16/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I don't really understand why the sudden outcry because of this movie. As many here attest to; this has been going on since time immemorial.

I understand what it is to be suddenly sicked by the realisation of the extent of it however. When I did my first 'Great American Road Trip' I stopped in a diner in a tiny town in NC. Picked up the local newspaper type thing and it had pictures of all of the beauty pageant kids in it. Right down to 'Prettiest Baby', and going up in years/categories to about 17.

The moment when I saw the sexualisation of the girls in that my stomach knotted. The American tradition of that, and Cheerleaders and such, is probably why 1/4 females have been sexually assaulted in this country by the time they're 18.

It's a problem. I don't suppose there's an awful lot of good shouting about it and arguing with ones peers about it is going to do though. Much like all the crimes that go on in this world, it just is, and getting angry isn't going to do shit but ruin your day.


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    #26938946 - 09/16/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not watching the movie but I have heard a rundown of the plot. Its about a girl who is stuck between traditional Muslim society where her father is bringing a second wife from Senegal and secular French society which rewards women for being whores and it shows how that whore culture trickles down to young girls and leads them to being whores.

the film maker's point was to show that young girls shouldnt be whores and people shouldn't be ok with how young girls are acting.

there is an argument to be made that it was not nessesary to depict 11 year old girls dancing like that to get the point across and the young actresses may have been exploited. but the film maker will tell you it was meant to make you uncomfortable.

regardless of the tactics I agree with the message, we shouldn't celebrate women for being whores in our culture and we should especially protect young girls from that kind of culture.

I have a young cousin who is definitely going down that road of becoming promiscuous and sexualized and its super lame. she dresses super skimpy and she says her friends all want to date an older man who will buy them things and stuff. and she drinks and vapes parties with guys. i hadn't seen her for years then i saw her this year and she's swollowed this view of what women are and what life is hook, line and sinker.

Look at the WAP dance ffs. thats the kind of influence young girls have. the message is super relevant. I think people are freaking out because this is the first time they have had to confront that fact but if you get your head out of the sand its happening everywhere.

Would I have chosen to use child actors dancing sexually if I had made the movie? no, but I agree with the message and think its relevant and that we need to face the fact that this is happening on a wide scale in real time, in the real world and not get mad when a movie makes us confront that.

I dont think its good for child actors to be doing that but if this surprises and disgusts you then you need to start directing your outrage at the culture this film depicts.


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    #26938963 - 09/16/20 12:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I never quite understood the point of child beauty pageants, they always sort of creeped me out in some unspoken way.

Even with adults it just feels sad too look at women like that, as objects instead of people.


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    #26938984 - 09/16/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

yea that'z no bueno


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    #26938990 - 09/16/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I don't really understand why the sudden outcry because of this movie. As many here attest to; this has been going on since time immemorial.



Why is this even a point? People aren't supposed to care because it's hypocritical? You're welcome to open up a discussion any time about any thing if you feel ignorant of people's opinions but the time you become aware of and engage with people about their opinions isn't indicative of them as a person. This is just "the world is fucked and we can't do anything about it. Just because you've evolved past the point of a dialogue that doesn't mean everyone else has. Can't say though that this doesn't remind me of when you said you'd ignore it if you knew someone was trafficking children because it's none of your business.

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I understand what it is to be suddenly sicked by the realisation of the extent of it however. When I did my first 'Great American Road Trip' I stopped in a diner in a tiny town in NC. Picked up the local newspaper type thing and it had pictures of all of the beauty pageant kids in it. Right down to 'Prettiest Baby', and going up in years/categories to about 17.

The moment when I saw the sexualisation of the girls in that my stomach knotted. The American tradition of that, and Cheerleaders and such, is probably why 1/4 females have been sexually assaulted in this country by the time they're 18.



And that shit has had tons of public outcry too. So what's your point? If you can't beat 'em, leave 'em be? Nah.


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    #26939002 - 09/16/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, tetchy response larry. I wasn't responding to you as such so I'm a little saddened by the venom in your response just because I see things differently to you.

Kinda case in point really; now I'm a little upset and you're a little upset and what have we achieved beyond that?

I mean good luck changing the world brother. You've my support, even if it feel it to be a fruitless endeavor. It's be nice if you could interact with the community a little more pleasantly about your cause though, you're all spit and bile in this thread now that you've had one of those sickening revelatory experiences.

I suspect that people like myself, and others above, have just had the sickness of it before and mostly got over it already.


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that meme is actually kinda valid in this scenario


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A pageant? Are they looking for investors?


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    #26939092 - 09/16/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Netflix didn't make this movie, I've seen snippets and people are mad that the story of the movie which is a foreign film is about 13 year olds dressing up like adults to start a band. Doesn't seem like some ploy to sexualized kids. I never would've heard about it if my dad didn't tell me after watching fox news. I obviously stand against sexualizing kids but I've seen tons of people saying everyone who isn't posting about it on FB 10x a day is "ignoring" it which is bullshit. Just like murder, raping kids has never been something that is in any way accepted so yes child sex is a horrid problem one of the worst and the planet but it sure isn't new.


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    #26939133 - 09/16/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I've seen snippets and people are mad that the story of the movie which is a foreign film is about 13 year olds dressing up like adults to start a band. Doesn't seem like some ploy to sexualized kids.




I had a look at the trailer and i agree.

People need to loosen up and abandon sexual dogma. Plus this is a European ... FRENCH movie and there lot of films like that :shrug:

You can look at it with sexual pessimism or liberated activism... but maybe im wrong so dont hate me :gethigh:


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    #26939266 - 09/16/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I havent watched it, but I feel like I get all the evidence I need that it is fucked up from Wubby's Video






Why are you promoting a video that shows children being sexually exploited?


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    #26939307 - 09/16/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I always grab a bag of those Cuties clementines when I see them at the grocery store.

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    #26939628 - 09/16/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder what Jeffrey Epstein would think about the movie cuties if he was still alive?


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    #26939632 - 09/16/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Has anyone seen this? I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet. For those that aren't aware, Netflix put out this movie that consists of essentially a bunch of 10-12 year olds finding their sexuality through provocative dance. They're in skimpy clothing and twerking. I think I heard something about one of the girls sexting a pic of her privates.

They "auditioned" over 600 little girls for this meaning a bunch of grown men sat around debating which of the little girl's ass shaking is star-worthy. I kind of hope no one has seen this shit but at the same time I'd love to know how much of what is being told is truth. I don't want to see the fucking thing. But I know people are disgusted, Netflix is losing subs. You've got rating wars between the paid, the pedos, and the average person on rating sites like Rotten Tomatoes. They're refusing to take it down basically calling people snowflakes. Changed the description, the thumbnail/picture. It's rated for sexual content.

I don't even know what's going on anymore. You've got this MAPs shit popping up, which is PC jargon for pedophile. "Minor Attracted Persons." Fucking Mulan being filmed in active concentration camps.

The world is literally ready to fall to shit.




No way am I ever watching this of my own accord.  I just saw some of the clips and that’s too much degeneracy for me.  I trudged my way through that thread in political discussion.


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    #26939649 - 09/16/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

People are literally defending this shit, this website is the last place I would have expected people to defend this.



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    #26939663 - 09/16/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That’s the point. It’s to shock people into taking notice. Everyone wants to write it off as porn, well look around. This is literally everywhere. Girls are being told that this is what it is to grow up and mature, and they are prone to imitation.

Is it hard to watch, yes. But watch you must to comprehend. It’s like how starship troopers mocks the audience with how over the top it is and calls attention to societal problems.




So you really think they thought they were making a critique on the over sexualization of young girls by making a movie that oversexualizes young girls?

C’mon man.  That’s the oldest trick in the book.


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    #26939665 - 09/16/20 07:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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People are literally defending this shit, this website is the last place I would have expected people to defend this.






This is the first place I figured would.:shrug:


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    #26939750 - 09/16/20 08:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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People are literally defending this shit, this website is the last place I would have expected people to defend this.






That’s it? That’s what is driving you people over the edge?

If that scene is representative of this movie, which is being described as child pornography, why are you posting it and trafficking in child pornography?

Come on... If you really thought something was child pornography, you wouldn’t be posting it.


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    #26939771 - 09/16/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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People are literally defending this shit, this website is the last place I would have expected people to defend this.





Look I'm not saying it's not trashy as shit, it is that scene was way too over the top for kids that age but I think that about dance mom routines. Didn't come from our country yet it's painted as Netflix putting a movie out from America  I wouldn't watch it ever but at first glace at least without watching the whole movie seems like a weird foreign movie about a girl group that dresses up crazy.


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    #26939780 - 09/16/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

it’s definitely trashy enough to be an American movie


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    #26939781 - 09/16/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah it's just trashy pop culture crap. It would have disappeared into obscurity if not for all this bad publicity.


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    #26939788 - 09/16/20 09:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Little girls dressed ridiculously reminds me of catholic schools and Donald Trump rallies



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    #26939791 - 09/16/20 09:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah it's just trashy pop culture crap. It would have disappeared into obscurity if not for all this bad publicity.



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    #26939807 - 09/16/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Did i say it was fucking child porn? I swear to god it's like speaking to a retard. Comprehend the things being spoken please. What fucking purpose does it serve? Should the kids be exploited? Should they be doing these things? If the network acknowledges its mature, sexual content then what is to stop someone who would find that attractive to appreciate it and not think its hot shit. Lets get woke yeah, "Oh wow, pedo bad. So woke. Im learning. Pop that pussy, hun." That's the fucking point. Its shoving peoples noses in shit when there happens to be a sizable population of people who like eating shit. You think they should encourage that? You think we need people to tell us what theyre doing is wrong? So what is the fucking point, then? Come on genius, tell me why little girls being sexual for you is something that should be on television.




For the love of God man stop being stupid and reactionary. The movie literally won several awards in the country of origin, France, and the only reason people are ticked off is because of a colossal marketing mistake.

The film is a coming of age movie but it takes an unvarnished look and insight into what we are teaching young girls. It's the story of a young Muslim girl who is caught between the traditions of home and that of the culture around her. The whole movie is her trying to find her way through what society is telling girls is considered mature. All the dances are scene through the eyes of a young girl who thinks this is what it is to grow up. When it finally gets to the scene you are so grossed out for the veil is lifted from her eyes.

It's a glaring and stark view of what society does to girls, telling them they have to move and act like that to be grown up. Any girl with a phone will see this growing up or on TV. How many role models are famous for girls who aren't gyrating their pelvis. Kids imitate what they see on TV and if seeing young girls do that is horrifying, well...that's the point. Art must be able to shock and hold a mirror up to society which is what this director did.

Honestly, now I get why the French call us stupid Americans.




ok.

i never really got into child porn myself, like even hentai nubile demon girl porn.  like if i happened upon it, you know, then yea but i don't think i've ever specifically sought it out.

actually wouldn't relationships like that cause a psychological regression?  i mean there might ultimately be a maturation of the young girls but there is bound to be a regression of the older person.

like if your goal in life was to take over the world, it might not be a good idea to engage in activities like this.  maybe you wouldn't need help in that regard, i mean.


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Yeah it's just trashy pop culture crap. It would have disappeared into obscurity if not for all this bad publicity.



Yep this movie will be seen by far more people than if nobody had decided to wage a purity war against it.



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Did i say it was fucking child porn? I swear to god it's like speaking to a retard. Comprehend the things being spoken please. What fucking purpose does it serve? Should the kids be exploited? Should they be doing these things? If the network acknowledges its mature, sexual content then what is to stop someone who would find that attractive to appreciate it and not think its hot shit. Lets get woke yeah, "Oh wow, pedo bad. So woke. Im learning. Pop that pussy, hun." That's the fucking point. Its shoving peoples noses in shit when there happens to be a sizable population of people who like eating shit. You think they should encourage that? You think we need people to tell us what theyre doing is wrong? So what is the fucking point, then? Come on genius, tell me why little girls being sexual for you is something that should be on television.




For the love of God man stop being stupid and reactionary. The movie literally won several awards in the country of origin, France, and the only reason people are ticked off is because of a colossal marketing mistake.

The film is a coming of age movie but it takes an unvarnished look and insight into what we are teaching young girls. It's the story of a young Muslim girl who is caught between the traditions of home and that of the culture around her. The whole movie is her trying to find her way through what society is telling girls is considered mature. All the dances are scene through the eyes of a young girl who thinks this is what it is to grow up. When it finally gets to the scene you are so grossed out for the veil is lifted from her eyes.

It's a glaring and stark view of what society does to girls, telling them they have to move and act like that to be grown up. Any girl with a phone will see this growing up or on TV. How many role models are famous for girls who aren't gyrating their pelvis. Kids imitate what they see on TV and if seeing young girls do that is horrifying, well...that's the point. Art must be able to shock and hold a mirror up to society which is what this director did.

Honestly, now I get why the French call us stupid Americans.




ok.

i never really got into child porn myself, like even hentai nubile demon girl porn.  like if i happened upon it, you know, then yea but i don't think i've ever specifically sought it out.

actually wouldn't relationships like that cause a psychological regression?  i mean there might ultimately be a maturation of the young girls but there is bound to be a regression of the older person.

like if your goal in life was to take over the world, it might not be a good idea to engage in activities like this.  maybe you wouldn't need help in that regard, i mean.



So you're a pedophile?


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    #26939832 - 09/16/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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People are literally defending this shit, this website is the last place I would have expected people to defend this.






That’s it? That’s what is driving you people over the edge?

If that scene is representative of this movie, which is being described as child pornography, why are you posting it and trafficking in child pornography?

Come on... If you really thought something was child pornography, you wouldn’t be posting it.



The thumbnail is literally enough for most sane people. This shit is only working for you guys because you're on the internet. Any of you are welcome to go have your opinion in public. Have a big ol Crowder CHANGE MY MIND I guarantee all of you smartasses defending this shit would get chased by a fucking mob. People don't fuck around with pedo shit. Animal abuse. That is normal social behavior. *cough*


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    #26939836 - 09/16/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yeah it's just trashy pop culture crap. It would have disappeared into obscurity if not for all this bad publicity.



Yep this movie will be seen by far more people than if nobody had decided to wage a purity war against it.



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    #26939843 - 09/16/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The fact that this stimpson character decided they were relevant and safe enough to open up about being a pedophile completely vindicates everyone not defending this. So thanks, stimpson. You have become an hero. Just not in the way that counts.


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    #26939852 - 09/16/20 09:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I also want to add that koods spent probably weeks defending the honor of Podesta's art collection of children chained up erotically in bathrooms in little clothing. His opinion is of little value. I could make a list of people that match that description, and I should


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    #26939891 - 09/16/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You’ve been irrational for quite a while. Pizzagate is bat shit crazy and anyone involved in pushing it should be ashamed.


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    #26940078 - 09/17/20 04:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'd guess the majority of people who would watch something like this are either women that for whatever reason see it as "empowering" or guys that probably want to fuck kids.

I don't really see the need for outrage though, it's not like normal people are gonna watch a movie and then go "You know what, I think I'd like to fuck a kid." As long as the girls weren't abused or exploited... idk it's just weird.

Girls as young as elementary school become cheerleaders, do beauty pageants, and/or get into hip hop dance, which is basically twerking class, Unless it's changed since I was in school many are also dressing 'slutty' before they're even close to being teens. When I was in middle school was when the booty shorts with words printed on the ass were popular. Teachers tried to stop it but mothers actually petitioned for girls to be able to dress like that.

Haven't seen the movie, but it sounds like it just reflects our current screwed up culture in a lot of places. I'd still be pretty weary about leaving the guy who wrote it alone with any kids though.


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    #26940102 - 09/17/20 04:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The shown fragment is in bad taste, but so is much of TV and note how the crowd is boo-ing the girls in protest of their performance.

Its all the more reason to keep my TV unplugged, but it seamlessly fits in with other kinds of crap that floods the airwaves.

What they do is inappropriate but if this is the worst of it, and chances are it is, the hysteria seems almost artificial.

If this entices you as a man, you have a problem not brought on by these girls.


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    #26940197 - 09/17/20 06:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your video reminds me how supermarket chicken breast has no flavor because the "chickens" are slaughtered when they are 42 days old, while chickens have a life expectancy of 10-20 years - it simply has no flavor because it didnt get a chance to in any way mature.

Factory farmed twerking.

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    #26940244 - 09/17/20 07:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

One of the 12 year olds whips her titty out at one point in the movie. What else you guys got to say? :cookiemonster:
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You’ve been irrational for quite a while. Pizzagate is bat shit crazy and anyone involved in pushing it should be ashamed.



Irrational? No you say stupid shit constantly, and then instead of addressing the point you strawman because it's easier than admitting you spent hours and hours and hours of your life with people vehemently arguing with you that something is pedophilic in nature. Clearly there is something wrong with you. Would not let you alone with my kids. Can say the same for a few other prominent members around here


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    #26940285 - 09/17/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I can't speak for the character of koods but I bet you got kids not even a pedophile would want.

Can we can it on the ad hominem insults, gentlemen?


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    #26940289 - 09/17/20 08:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your kids are so ugly they have to offer the stranger in a van candy


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    #26940314 - 09/17/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

MAYBE this movie is aimed at 12 year old boys to get off :shrug:


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