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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
#26936681 - 09/15/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Enlil said: There's no question that kids are being inundated with information about how they should act based on gender. We should completely abandon the social construct of gender, but we're a long way from that point. Certainly, you're not suggesting that the movie poster for this film is a significant contributor to this broad societal issue, are you?
To expect that is to expect a childs mom to not want her little girl to wear a dress and makeup and look pretty when the child is young. This is re enforcing gender identity and not letting the child pick on their own. Is this really possible to get rid of gender identification? How can it be removed completely? Kids at a young age decide if they want to be boys or girls regardless of gender? This is one of the hardest things to possibly accept is a problem among society and expect to change.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: imachavel] 1
#26936684 - 09/15/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's going to take a long time. Probably too long to accomplish before human extinction.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: yeah] 1
#26936704 - 09/15/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I feel like it would definitely be in koods best interest to not post ever again...... That man has really been going hard with the bad looks lately...
I watched a bit of the movie with a friend just to goof on it. It is honestly way worse than you probably expect it to be. Im pretty surprised it was allowed to be released in america. Many scenes are blatant soft-core child porn. The film relies on this paper thin flimsy theme of 'sexualizing kids is bad' while hiring child actors in order to hyper-sexualize them. Total joke. Guarantee koods hasnt seen it. If he did he would've edited all the posts in this thread lmao. "Right wing propaganda machine" my god, dude.. Your political obsessions have driven you to endorse soft-core child porn because you assume the right wing are the people who dont like this movie..
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Near Dylan]
#26936712 - 09/15/20 09:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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God damnit, this isn't something I planned to give views to. ::grumbles and wanders off to watch Cuties::
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Near Dylan]
#26936723 - 09/15/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: Many scenes are blatant soft-core child porn.
I didnt stop and think there were genres in child porn
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
#26936725 - 09/15/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why wouldnt there be
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante] 1
#26936765 - 09/15/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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In your opinion, are 10 year olds able to consent to being directed by adults to imitate sex workers, including rubbing their crotch with gratuitous close-ups, so the adults can record it and profit off it monetarily?
Omg rubbing their crotches. Who fucking cares. What a weird obsession.
You're the one who couldn't even comprehend the question at all and could only focus on rubbing their crotches. Must be projecting. Unless your answer is "Who cares if 10 year olds can't consent" 
Your fallacies are (quite often):
Non-Sequitor 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or evidence. 2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
ambiguity You used a double meaning or ambiguity of language to mislead or misrepresent the truth. Politicians are often guilty of using ambiguity to mislead and will later point to how they were technically not outright lying if they come under scrutiny. The reason that it qualifies as a fallacy is that it is intrinsically misleading.
loaded question You asked a question that had a presumption built into it so that it couldn't be answered without appearing guilty.
ad hominem You attacked your opponent's character or personal traits in an attempt to undermine their argument. Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.
I wouldn't even be in this thread if you guys didn't team up on the other posters in the same way you just tried me with your logically incoherent nonsensical jibba jabba. Considering your inability to comprehend my posts, its probably better to just lurk on this one bud.
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Asante, over the long time you have been here leading this place have you ever deleted images uploaded by users that would include 10 year olds with clothes on rubbing their crotch through their clothes? If so, is there any other particular reasons you would have removed them, besides potential legality and the complete irrelevance to mushrooms? Surely disgust shouldn't have influenced that decision, right?
We have zero tolerance for child pornography. Apart from moral reasons an admin should let the best interests of the site come first and if people were to upload child pornography here they would be bringing the site in legal peril, as we would be complicit in the distribution of illegal content (Enlil knows the correct terminology for this) which can bring the site down.
I'm happy to say that in my 10 years as an admin I saw not one case of this on the boards, I cant speak for the other admins though.
I'm disgusted by various forms of content and in OTD sometimes post content that is deliberately disgusting to others but ultimately I let reason prevail over disgust, and thats quite the opposite from how many conservatives do it.
In my duty as an admin I let content stand if its disgusting to me but legal to post, if its illegal to post it has to go because then it endangers the site.
So since you believe the scenes in cuties would categorize as child pornography if they were uploaded to this site, why'd you jump in trying to bully Eminence and BillyRay, the people who are trying to make a case that the directors exploited the kids in the making of this film?
Do you believe that kids naturally imitate adults, and if so will the normalization of sex work naturally lead to more kids imitating sex workers like the movie portrayed, or less?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Near Dylan]
#26936791 - 09/15/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Near Dylan said: I feel like it would definitely be in koods best interest to not post ever again...... That man has really been going hard with the bad looks lately...
I watched a bit of the movie with a friend just to goof on it. It is honestly way worse than you probably expect it to be. Im pretty surprised it was allowed to be released in america. Many scenes are blatant soft-core child porn. The film relies on this paper thin flimsy theme of 'sexualizing kids is bad' while hiring child actors in order to hyper-sexualize them. Total joke. Guarantee koods hasnt seen it. If he did he would've edited all the posts in this thread lmao. "Right wing propaganda machine" my god, dude.. Your political obsessions have driven you to endorse soft-core child porn because you assume the right wing are the people who dont like this movie..
This is a Qanon thing. Yes it is being pushed almost entirely by right wing actors. If they aren’t having sex and showing off their junk, it’s not child porn and protected speech. Deal with it.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#26936799 - 09/15/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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why'd you jump in trying to bully Eminence and BillyRay
I'm not trying to bully anyone. Do people like Eminence and BillyRay need someone to stand up in their defense? I think not. They are skilled debaters and can stand their own ground, and would if they felt the need.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
#26936804 - 09/15/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you believe that kids naturally imitate adults, and if so will the normalization of sex work naturally lead to more kids imitating sex workers like the movie portrayed, or less?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#26936820 - 09/15/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Twerking is a style of erotic dancing, its not sex work.
I'd prefer it that kids were not exposed to erotic dancing or sex work.
Kids imitate adults by nature, this is a hardwired mechanism to learn how become an adult.
Thats why, you shouldnt expose kids to age inappropriate things, including realistic first person shooter games - is my belief.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante] 1
#26936829 - 09/15/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whats everyone’s opinion of the movie “taxi driver.” The main character is a 12 year old prostitute and they don’t shy away from that storyline.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods]
#26936837 - 09/15/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm willing to bet that when it came out people were having the same kind of discussion.
--------- I've read discussions and I've seen actual sex workers say the kids in the movie imitated moves from their routines.
Do you think an increase in the amount of sex workers is going to make it easier to hide it from kids or do you think kids are going to be more likely to be exposed to it?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
#26936846 - 09/15/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Taxi Driver.. is there a remake?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods] 1
#26936954 - 09/15/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It shows them doing overtly sexual things with the specific point of showing that they are children who have been sexualized. The kids twerk, camera zooms on their ass and on their spread open legs, they hump the stage with stripper clothes on, simulate sex acts, engage in producing child porn for social media, they seductively take off their clothes to try and seduce adult men, etc etc etc etc. The whole point of the movie is that they are children who have been toxically sexualized and in trying to show that artistically, they have in the process toxically sexualizized the child actresses. Again it def seems like you did not see the movie nor did you see taxi driver lmao
Idc if its 'protected speech' hurr durr lmao im not a fucking lawyer trying to prosecute the director. Lots of shit is protected speech doesnt mean i cant disagree with it. Makes absolutely no point whatsoever
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Near Dylan] 2
#26936965 - 09/15/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the free speech point is that if you actually believed in free speech, you would defend someones right to say and express what they want, even if you vehemently disagree with it.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: natedawgnow] 2
#26936969 - 09/15/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hereby announce that I passionately defend the directors right to make this movie but vehemently disagree with her approach to the subject matter.
Good thing we got that out of the way huh worthless argument
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Near Dylan] 2
#26936980 - 09/15/20 12:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Btw were all the dislikes qanon alt-right worshippers? Just fringie republitards??? All 1.9 million of them? All the outrage on the internet, totally right wing? Imagine being that delusional.... I'd bet my left nut that if the right was defending this movie rather than objecting to it, koods would be all 'typical right wing pedos loving a pedo movie " lmao. If trump comes out and defends this movie and says he enjoyed it, I cannot wait to see kood's complete 180.
Imagine seeing an overhwmling outpour of outrage from millions of people on the internet and going "Pfft clearly a 'q-anon' thing" lmao.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: natedawgnow]
#26936985 - 09/15/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you believe 10 year olds are able to consent to being sexualized by adults?
Do you think an increase in the amount of sex workers is going to make it harder to hide it from kids?
Yes or no answers are sufficient.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind] 1
#26937012 - 09/15/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Didn't finish. Doesn't matter if there's a good ending with moral lesson entailed- it's disgusting.
Can't say I've been anywhere other than my few posts here, discussing this movie. So don't know how far some, I'm sure have gone with this. But I don't feel it's all overblown.
It's one thing that girls experience these themes as they become teenagers, doesn't mean there should be a film dissecting in gross detail about it.
Matter of fact. This could have been a movie about 5 eleven year old dancers coming of age, could have been done tastefully. This is raunchy smut.
Anyone who would like to discuss this fairly has to watch it, unfortunately.
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