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4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row 1
#26936454 - 09/15/20 06:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey Good Morning,
2 trips in a row now (1 - last weekend, 1 - 6 weeks ago) I've taken 4 grams of APE (mush that I grew). I've taken them on many occasions before and they were very strong. They are less than 4 months old and stored cracker dry. Both times I have literally had close to a 0 experience. I don't feel anything except some uncomfortablity and anxiety - but no trip whatsoever. My process is the same as it's always been. Have a light meal in the morning, don't eat anything else all day and ingest around 5pm on an empty stomach. Has this ever happened to you? I can understand 1 trip, but 2 in a row?
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26936492 - 09/15/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How long had it been between doses at that point? Was heat employed during dehydration/how much time passed between picking to fully dry? How mature were these mushrooms and had your substrate/growing method changed in any way?
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26936493 - 09/15/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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How did you store them? Cracker dry is a must before storage, but you have to keep them away from any light, oxigen and moisture. I had shrooms gone completly bunk within half a year due to improper storage. A common zipper-bag is not enough.
Do you now take any meds, or other drugs?
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Pandemoon]
#26936591 - 09/15/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Holybullshit said: How long had it been between doses at that point? Was heat employed during dehydration/how much time passed between picking to fully dry? How mature were these mushrooms and had your substrate/growing method changed in any way?
It had been 6 weeks between doses. Medium heat dehydration @ 8 hours. Fully matured. No change to substrate.
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Pandemoon said: How did you store them? Cracker dry is a must before storage, but you have to keep them away from any light, oxygen and moisture. I had shrooms gone completely bunk within half a year due to improper storage. A common zipper-bag is not enough.
Do you now take any meds, or other drugs?
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Stored them cracker dry, in a mason jar with a silica packet wrapped in a paper towel. BUT... Last weekend trip was with 20 grams fresh and 2 grams dried that were only a week old.
I do not take any drugs whatsoever - no pain killer, ssri, blood pressure medication - nothing.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26936594 - 09/15/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you ever think that the mushroom has a personality of its own, and sometimes just chooses not to work with you? I've felt like the mushroom gave me some homework assignments 2-3 months ago that I didn't really work on at all. So when I dosed 6 weeks ago, I thought - maybe they aren't working with me, because I haven't been working on what they told me to do. So in these last 6 weeks, I put in a good amount of work on the action steps that they set forward. I took them in hopes/anticipation to get some feedback. But, again - there was virtually no trip at all...
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26936673 - 09/15/20 09:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26936899 - 09/15/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rat-a-Tat said: Do you ever think that the mushroom has a personality of its own, and sometimes just chooses not to work with you? I've felt like the mushroom gave me some homework assignments 2-3 months ago that I didn't really work on at all. So when I dosed 6 weeks ago, I thought - maybe they aren't working with me, because I haven't been working on what they told me to do. So in these last 6 weeks, I put in a good amount of work on the action steps that they set forward. I took them in hopes/anticipation to get some feedback. But, again - there was virtually no trip at all...
i honestly feel like that’s happened to me before too, almost like the mushroom was telling me “hey motherfucker, we talked about this. get your shit done”
i had taken 3g of some mushrooms one time while i was still in my last relationship. i knew i needed to end things but was really dragging it out, i took that dose & felt next to nothing but some slight perception shifts & during the trip i felt it was either the mushrooms or my ego telling me i needed to get things in my life taken care of before i got back into casual tripping. it definitely made sense to me, though i guess it could have just been a few mushrooms that weren’t particularly potent
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: hazyhorse]
#26937882 - 09/15/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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hazyhorse said:
i honestly feel like that’s happened to me before too, almost like the mushroom was telling me “hey motherfucker, we talked about this. get your shit done”
i had taken 3g of some mushrooms one time while i was still in my last relationship. i knew i needed to end things but was really dragging it out, i took that dose & felt next to nothing but some slight perception shifts & during the trip i felt it was either the mushrooms or my ego telling me i needed to get things in my life taken care of before i got back into casual tripping. it definitely made sense to me, though i guess it could have just been a few mushrooms that weren’t particularly potent
Yes! I totally thought I was the only one, but I definitely got that vibe on the first trip that didn't work out 6 weeks ago. The only thing is that I put in effort to try and remedy the issue and it still happened this last weekend... Such a bummer.</font>
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26938006 - 09/15/20 08:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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MS or something more reliable?
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26938148 - 09/15/20 10:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe you have a naturally high tolerance 🤷♂️
I have heard that there are people who as tge Dr talking about it put it "non responder" meaning they don't respond to psychedelic chemicals like normal people do or at least your avg response because what the fuck is normal anyways.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26938724 - 09/16/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: MS or something more reliable?
It was MS - but I've grown like 5 batches (all MS) from these APES, and they have all been BONKERS...
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: polyflakes]
#26938727 - 09/16/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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polyflakes said: maybe you have a naturally high tolerance 🤷♂️
I have heard that there are people who as tge Dr talking about it put it "non responder" meaning they don't respond to psychedelic chemicals like normal people do or at least your avg response because what the fuck is normal anyways.
I hear you, but every other time I have taken 4 grams of APE, it's sent me to the fucking solar system .
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26939208 - 09/16/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rat-a-Tat said:
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PrimalSoup said: MS or something more reliable?
It was MS - but I've grown like 5 batches (all MS) from these APES, and they have all been BONKERS...
Was it a new batch? - because with MS you can always lose the genetic lottery.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: polyflakes]
#26939320 - 09/16/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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polyflakes said: maybe you have a naturally high tolerance 🤷♂️
I have heard that there are people who as tge Dr talking about it put it "non responder" meaning they don't respond to psychedelic chemicals like normal people do or at least your avg response because what the fuck is normal anyways.
my ex gf was like that she would need at least 3 hits of acid to feel it. Same with mushrooms she needs at least 4 grams to feel it. I allways found it really interesting.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26939741 - 09/16/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rat-a-Tat said:
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polyflakes said: maybe you have a naturally high tolerance 🤷♂️
I have heard that there are people who as tge Dr talking about it put it "non responder" meaning they don't respond to psychedelic chemicals like normal people do or at least your avg response because what the fuck is normal anyways.
I hear you, but every other time I have taken 4 grams of APE, it's sent me to the fucking solar system .
Then never mind lol sometimes its just not the time 🤷♂️
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26972336 - 10/06/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rat-a-Tat said: Do you ever think that the mushroom has a personality of its own, and sometimes just chooses not to work with you? I've felt like the mushroom gave me some homework assignments 2-3 months ago that I didn't really work on at all. So when I dosed 6 weeks ago, I thought - maybe they aren't working with me, because I haven't been working on what they told me to do. So in these last 6 weeks, I put in a good amount of work on the action steps that they set forward. I took them in hopes/anticipation to get some feedback. But, again - there was virtually no trip at all...
I fully believe that they give what they want you to know... even if/when you are going to hate it. Part of my routine now is thanking them because it can't hurt, right?
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Cegda]
#26972354 - 10/06/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's odd, my MS APEs sent me to the moon on 1.5g.
You said 8 hours on medium heat to dry. That seems low to me. My APEs seemed to hold a lot more water than regular cubes and I needed to dehydrate them at max for 14 hours.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Cegda]
#26972946 - 10/06/20 09:37 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cegda said:
I fully believe that they give what they want you to know... even if/when you are going to hate it. Part of my routine now is thanking them because it can't hurt, right?
I agree with what you are saying, and I've resolved not to stress about it. I too think that they have a plan, whether good bad or indifferent.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26972948 - 10/06/20 09:38 PM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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Socrateshroom said: That's odd, my MS APEs sent me to the moon on 1.5g.
You said 8 hours on medium heat to dry. That seems low to me. My APEs seemed to hold a lot more water than regular cubes and I needed to dehydrate them at max for 14 hours.
These have sent me to the moon every other time I've taken them. They are cracker dry and have been stored properly.
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Re: 4 Grams Dried APE - Not Working!? 2 Trips in a Row [Re: Rat-a-Tat]
#26974801 - 10/08/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 3 months ago) |
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try a different variety at 4g with something acidic like lemon or vinegar and report back, two things will happen if ape lost potency you will know two if you have tolerance issue you will know imo. always keep some other variety just for comparison.
also work out your shit the shit shrooms told you thats the entire point of shrooms i am just messing with you 
try a different variety and you will trip.
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