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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods]
    #26936185 - 09/14/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You can look but not touch sounds perfectly reasonable to me.




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I'd wager the people who think it's okay to think about having sex with kids are more likely to yakno, try to have sex with kids but I'm no expert in the subject.

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You are correct.










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I’d also wager that people who live to adulthood are more likely to try to molest kids than those who die before puberty. Should we make it illegal to be an adult?






You want people to believe "it should be considered immoral for pedofiles to look out their windows jacking off to their neighbors kids and sending videos to their pedo friends" sounds as absurd as "it should be illegal to be an adult"

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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods] * 1
    #26936190 - 09/15/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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In your opinion, are 10 year olds able to consent to being directed by adults to imitate sex workers, including rubbing their crotch with gratuitous close-ups, so the adults can record it and profit off it monetarily? 




Omg rubbing their crotches. Who fucking cares. What a weird obsession.




He's clearly not obsessed with crotch rubbing. You need a new shtick.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: yeah]
    #26936203 - 09/15/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Isn’t that what this entire thread is about


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26936384 - 09/15/20 05:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Asante, over the long time you have been here leading this place have you ever deleted images uploaded by users that would include 10 year olds with clothes on rubbing their crotch through their clothes?  If so, is there any other particular reasons you would have removed them, besides potential legality and the complete irrelevance to mushrooms?  Surely disgust shouldn't have influenced that decision, right?




We have zero tolerance for child pornography. Apart from moral reasons an admin should let the best interests of the site come first and if people were to upload child pornography here they would be bringing the site in legal peril, as we would be complicit in the distribution of illegal content (Enlil knows the correct terminology for this) which can bring the site down.

I'm happy to say that in my 10 years as an admin I saw not one case of this on the boards, I cant speak for the other admins though.

I'm disgusted by various forms of content and in OTD sometimes post content that is deliberately disgusting to others but ultimately I let reason prevail over disgust, and thats quite the opposite from how many conservatives do it.

In my duty as an admin I let content stand if its disgusting to me but legal to post, if its illegal to post it has to go because then it endangers the site.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
    #26936389 - 09/15/20 05:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Imagine this scenario:  Your nephew is the best babysitter ever.  You teach him so much, including that thinking about sex with kids isn't the same as actually having sex with kids so you can look[at kids sexually to make your dick hard] but you can't touch [kids sexually to make your dick hard] and still be moral.  One day he left his homework at your house, and you decided you wanted to see if you still remember some of the stuff you learned.  You open the folder to find drawings of kids having sex mixed in with actual pictures of 10 year olds dressed like sex workers.  Obviously you need to have another talk with him, but would you still let him babysit your kids while your at work?




My nephew is 10, half Chinese and probably made some pedophiles go hmmm? :lol:

But that aside:

What you describe here is a person entrusted with a kid being found in possession of material that would suggest they are a pedophile. That is not a thought in their head but then it externalized to the world (him collecting child pornographic stuff), the pedophile becomes known as a pedophile and you obviously shield your child from contact with them.

Thats not the same as looking at a child with inappropriate intent.

Can you discern between an inappropriate gaze and one by some traumatized fuck having a vietnam flashback about having seen a napalmed kid scream in agony? Extreme example but, if someone looks at a kid a certain way that way is known with certainty only by that person. Any interpretation of how he gazes is subjective. Having child porn in his possession is NOT subjective, its objective that sex is on his mind around kids.

You then take steps accordingly.

I hate to Enlilsplain but he said "looks at a kid"and not "was found into possession of child porn" thats a whole nother ballgame as child porn is a crime in itself and a pointer towards the possibility of real world intent. That casts the court case into another light.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26936532 - 09/15/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The line is pretty clear.  Possession of child pornography is only possible if a child was actually victimized.  Possession of a jew-skin lamp is only possible if a jew was skinned.  Once a person participates in the marketplace for such things, one is a part of the system that victimizes people.

That is completely different from what we're talking about here.  There is no victim here.  A child doesn't twerk because he/she wants to give someone an erection.  A child twerks because it's an expression if his/her joy of moving.  Anyone who has been around kids knows that they love to bend and test their bodies to see what it can and can't do.  This isn't sexual in any way.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26936544 - 09/15/20 08:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26936595 - 09/15/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The other side that no one seems to care about in this thread is that parents allow, and often encourage, their kids to participate in movies like this.  Where is the outrage toward the parents?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
    #26936608 - 09/15/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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MrBlueYoMind said:

Asante, over the long time you have been here leading this place have you ever deleted images uploaded by users that would include 10 year olds with clothes on rubbing their crotch through their clothes?  If so, is there any other particular reasons you would have removed them, besides potential legality and the complete irrelevance to mushrooms?  Surely disgust shouldn't have influenced that decision, right?




We have zero tolerance for child pornography. Apart from moral reasons an admin should let the best interests of the site come first and if people were to upload child pornography here they would be bringing the site in legal peril, as we would be complicit in the distribution of illegal content (Enlil knows the correct terminology for this) which can bring the site down.

I'm happy to say that in my 10 years as an admin I saw not one case of this on the boards, I cant speak for the other admins though.

I'm disgusted by various forms of content and in OTD sometimes post content that is deliberately disgusting to others but ultimately I let reason prevail over disgust, and thats quite the opposite from how many conservatives do it.

In my duty as an admin I let content stand if its disgusting to me but legal to post, if its illegal to post it has to go because then it endangers the site.




Kids are getting prosecuted on child porn charges when they share nudes with other people. It’s pretty fucked up.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936623 - 09/15/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Another side worth mentioning is the perpetuating of sexism/women inequality issues, or the unrealistic pressure put on girls to look a certain way as they grow up. 

Sounds like the film addresses the latter, so speaking in generality to this type of media.
And let's face it, more kids will see the movie poster than the actual film. In which case, it doesn't matter what the content is.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26936635 - 09/15/20 09:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There's no question that kids are being inundated with information about how they should act based on gender.  We should completely abandon the social construct of gender, but we're a long way from that point.  Certainly, you're not suggesting that the movie poster for this film is a significant contributor to this broad societal issue, are you?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936646 - 09/15/20 09:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You're going pretty extreme there. Was using the poster as an example, guess I wasn't clear-
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26936647 - 09/15/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A question is extreme?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936649 - 09/15/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Dont tell the soccer moms to stop the gender revel parties; sacrilege to stop the  all so important blue and pink.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936650 - 09/15/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:We should completely abandon the social construct of gender, but we're a long way from that point.  Certainly, you're not suggesting that the movie poster for this film is a significant contributor to this broad societal issue, are you?




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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26936652 - 09/15/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well yeah... we should abandon gender. You disagree?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26936661 - 09/15/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The other side that no one seems to care about in this thread is that parents allow, and often encourage, their kids to participate in movies like this.  Where is the outrage toward the parents?




Their outrage was all used up on the parents of Greta Thunberg.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936664 - 09/15/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My personal opinion? It's inevitable, as you mentioned. I don't have a strong opinion one way or another, as I don't think it should be so prominently of focus as it is.

In general, people can do whatever they want as long as there's no harm to others. Where we disagree is that this concept can be harmful, in many ways.

I did not personally see this movie, or even look far into it, so I speak from a broad stance.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: birdeatingspider]
    #26936666 - 09/15/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I speak from a broad stance.



We can't call them "broads" anymore, bro.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936667 - 09/15/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Bwahahaha


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