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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26935358 - 09/14/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sure it does. It’s a quote from the article you posted to support your position.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods]
    #26935430 - 09/14/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's why it didn't have your name. You just didn't get it. Over your head


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26935439 - 09/14/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That's why it didn't have your name. You just didn't get it. Over your head



I didn’t get it because it was a poorly made post.  I said it’s been reported that 650 girls auditioned for Cuties.  Koods replied talking about Kyle Rittenhouse and something about the flag.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26935446 - 09/14/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yep. It seems some people love law and order and freedom of speech.... For themselves and people with the same viewpoints only


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26935450 - 09/14/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

How does that pertain to anything I said?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26935468 - 09/14/20 03:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe you didn't really read what you posted but it sure seems you think its worth cancelling this movie.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26935480 - 09/14/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What does canceling a movie depicting sexualized 11 year old girls have to do with Kyle Rittenhouse?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray]
    #26935533 - 09/14/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Things in common with people that are outraged by cuties.

Conservatives usually


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: bodhisatta] * 1
    #26935563 - 09/14/20 04:51 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What about yourself do you consider conservative or right wing? I've seen you a couple times saying you're right wing but I always see you siding with Koods of all people. I don't buy it at all.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence]
    #26935591 - 09/14/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

More right than left if you have to pin it down. But today conservatives really don't fit the right side of the political compass on most things either. Give me a questionnaire or something :shrug:


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence] * 1
    #26935592 - 09/14/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You're supposed to let your disgust outweigh your reason, I don't believe you're a conservative at all.




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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
    #26935779 - 09/14/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Everyone is bias. To me, my reasoning is sound, so it is not overrided by my disgust. :shrug:


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Asante]
    #26935802 - 09/14/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Is it unreasonable to think this movie could have been made without the specific scenes people are complaining about? 

Do you see it as a type of trolley dilemma where you can exploit 5 or 6 kids in a supervised manner so people will talk about it, like no publicity is bad publicity if you believe in your cause?  Or maybe some kind of circular reasoning like "If they didn't need to put it in the movie then why did they put it in the movie?" 

In your opinion, are 10 year olds able to consent to being directed by adults to imitate sex workers, including rubbing their crotch with close-ups, so the adults can record it and profit off it monetarily?  <---- crux of the debate

Do children imitate adults, and if so does that mean making sex work more mainstream/normalizing sex work is likely to have younger and younger children imitating sex workers? 

Is it your intent that one day Netflix can show 10 year olds imitating sex workers & rubbing their crotch without people calling it an example of exploitation or making a rubble out of it?

Asante, over the long time you have been here leading this place have you ever deleted images uploaded by users that would include 10 year olds with clothes on rubbing their crotch through their clothes?  If so, is there any other particular reasons you would have removed them, besides potential legality and the complete irrelevance to mushrooms?  Surely disgust shouldn't have influenced that decision, right?

Imagine this scenario:  Your nephew is the best babysitter ever.  You teach him so much, including that thinking about sex with kids isn't the same as actually having sex with kids so you can look[at kids sexually to make your dick hard] but you can't touch [kids sexually to make your dick hard] and still be moral.  One day he left his homework at your house, and you decided you wanted to see if you still remember some of the stuff you learned.  You open the folder to find drawings of kids having sex mixed in with actual pictures of 10 year olds dressed like sex workers.  Obviously you need to have another talk with him, but would you still let him babysit your kids while your at work? 

So since people walking around a store might have thoughts about punching a screaming child and since that thought is classified as moral, if we replace screaming child with a kid just standing there, its moral for someone walking around the store to notice a kid and then look at it with the purpose to make their dick hard??  Sounds specious.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26935817 - 09/14/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There is no way to regulate thoughts. Any attempt will be futile. The more people are made to feel evil,  dirty,  or guilty for their thoughts, the more likely that person is to eventually act on them.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: koods] * 1
    #26935961 - 09/14/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You're okay with people wanting to rape your children????

Right wing?  You're brainwashed.  You're a serious danger to children


"You can look but you can't touch!" is your philosophy on pedophilia like WTF how about taking the stance of "If you look at my kids in a sexual way I'll cut your dick off and make you eat it"




You can look but not touch sounds perfectly reasonable to me. Your neighbor can watch your kids play from his window and jerk off and there not a thing you can do about it besides cry and hide your kids. He can set up a camera and film everything your kids do and jerk off to them. He can give those videos away to his pedo friends. AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT. It’s a free country.



If I caught my neighbor doing that he wouldnt be my neighbor for long.  He wouldnt be anyones neighbor.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #26935969 - 09/14/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your neighbor is doing all of that now.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26935973 - 09/14/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Your neighbor is doing all of that now.



My neighbors are old asian ladies so now.  Even if they werent ypu cant say that.  You would need proof.


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: meltdowner]
    #26935977 - 09/14/20 09:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I can say it. I just did, actually. Why are you so against the first amendment?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
    #26936080 - 09/14/20 10:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I guess my theory is that a social attitude that it's okay to think about it but not act on it might lead to a society where eventually the next generations have more people thinking about it (and by default, more people doing it) than if we had a society where it was seen as wrong to think about it as well as act on it.  Seems like a foot in the door to a society that allows acting on it, as they have existed in the past and many of the rich and influential people of our society have been accused of visiting that island and just seems like those kind of people would benefit more from a society that didn't criticize sex work & pedophilia than a society that did.

It's not like I'm accusing a pedophile of choosing that their dick gets hard from kids.  I'm saying that looking out the window at the neighbors kids with the purpose of making their dick hard is a choice.  I'd assume they'd have higher self-worth/see themselves as less evil if they stop themselves rather than indulge themselves. 

Thats why I believe "you can look but you can't touch" is a bad philosophy regarding that particular subject and why analogies don't negate it. 

Role models are important to development, that's why people want to call out the progressively more common sexualization of kids as they imitate bad role models.  We all need to be good role models because even if we don't realize it there are people around us that look up to us and use our behavior as a reference for how to be even if its unconsciously.

Do you think a child is more likely or less likely to look at another child sexually if that other child is imitating a sex worker or playing basketball?  Would that be grooming victims and future pedophiles?  Does children imitating sex workers likely turn on pedophiles?  The promotion of role models with pedophilic themes in their music videos and some influential people who run our society visiting Epstein island seems connected.  Possibly just coincidence but it's not impossible.

Is a drug addict more likely to relapse if he A: Believes it's okay to keep buying and collecting drugs as long as he doesn't do them.  or B: Separate themselves from drugs and start thinking about the negative consequences to their life?

I'm not talking about making laws, I forgot this was the political forum when I first posted.  We can drop that debate it's tangential I understand your reasoning for your position much better than before and I think you understand mine a lot better as well. 


On topic:

In your opinion, are 10 year olds able to consent to being directed by adults to imitate sex workers, including rubbing their crotch with gratuitous close-ups, so the adults can record it and profit off it monetarily? 


Do children imitate adults, and if so does that mean making sex work more mainstream/normalizing sex work is likely to have more and younger children imitating sex workers, or less children imitating sex workers?


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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: MrBlueYoMind] * 1
    #26936184 - 09/14/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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In your opinion, are 10 year olds able to consent to being directed by adults to imitate sex workers, including rubbing their crotch with gratuitous close-ups, so the adults can record it and profit off it monetarily? 




Omg rubbing their crotches. Who fucking cares. What a weird obsession.


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