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Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days
    #26936034 - 09/14/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So, the veils are starting to break on my little guys and I ordered a dehydrator but it won’t be here until Wednesday. I’ve read mixed opinions on when to pick them and some say right before and others day right after. My question is: should I go ahead and pick them and try to figure out a way to start drying them without the dehydrator or will it be fine until to just wait until late Wednesday afternoon?



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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936051 - 09/14/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You can wait them out a little but I would say they don't have more then day. I have read on here you can keep then in the frigid for a little bit without harm with any luck they will only be in there for a day before it gets there.🤷‍♂️


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: polyflakes]
    #26936056 - 09/14/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, I’ll go buy a dehydrator tomorrow then and just return it once they are done haha


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90] * 1
    #26936085 - 09/14/20 10:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Set them a screen or colander with a fan blowing over them will hold off degradation and it will also dry them a lil bit before you put them in ur dehydrator. You can fully dry them this way but take days.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936099 - 09/14/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was going to go to Walmart tonight to grab a dehydrator but it doesn’t open again until 7. That’s literally in like 7 hours and I could go there and back within 45 min. Should I just wait until then? I’m worried that if I pick them now I’d mess them up. I have a fan and a colander but would it not be better just to wait 7 more hours, grab the dehydrator and then come back and pick/process them?


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936105 - 09/14/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I mean if you want them dehydrated now and wanna buy and return one once you get the other then thats fine. But if your just worried about them rotting or contamination then, the fan should be enough to prevent that till you get ur dehydrator. All up to u I suppose.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936107 - 09/14/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Just keep them in the fridge. I store fresh shrooms in a double ziploc bag w/ a desiccant pack inside for whenever I want fresh shrooms instead of dry ones. They won't lose much, if any, potency in just 2 days. I've kept them there for over a week and they still hit and I didn't get sick


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936115 - 09/14/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I just didn’t want them to rot.. I didn’t think about buying that dehydrator and then returning it until after I posted the thread. Surely they will be fine for 7-8 more hours on the cake. I’m thinking that’s my best bet because I’ve read that once you pick them you need to get them as dry as possible and quick as possible and I don’t think the fan I have will make that happen. I’d also have to run it constantly for a day and a half. I’m just going to go in the morning and snag that, use it, wash it out and then return it. Seems like a lot of work but I’d rather dehydrate them right after picking instead or risk them getting contaminated/oxidized by the fan not being sufficient


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: meowjinx]
    #26936118 - 09/14/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea if u have a desicant that could work for a bit. But if your gonna keep it in the fridge the put it in a zip lock bag with napkins and leave the bag open. If moisture builds up it will cause it to get soggy and rot faster and allows growth for other things


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: meowjinx]
    #26936120 - 09/14/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Do that or just wait 7 hours until Walmart opens, grab a dehydrator, use it/wash it out and return it? I’m going to keep the dehydrator I have coming because it’s pretty nice


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936121 - 09/14/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It doesn't need to dry the shroom. The fans job is to wick away the moisture/condensation the mushroom releases naturally. Basically how a mushroom would dry naturally in the wind. But you get to make it constant.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936126 - 09/14/20 11:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’m going to buy the cheap dehydrator in the morning and then just return it. This is my first grow but I’m thinking that it would be highly unlikely for them to rot while they are still on the cakes only 7 hours after the veils broke. If that were the case then everyone would have to be watching their grows 24/7 once they started to mature. Does that make sense or am I just being an idiot


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936130 - 09/14/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sure, if you wanna go through the trouble of buying and returning something. I hate returning stuff, but if you absolutely want them dry ASAP you can do that

It's normal to be antsy during your first grow, but nothing will happen to the shrooms in just 2 days. You could probs leave them on the cake (tho they will drop spores), put em in fridge, or start fan drying them. All those options would be fine w/ minimal loss of potency

Sometimes veils break early, it doesn't mean your shrooms are dying


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936136 - 09/14/20 11:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

So you’re saying throw the whole cakes in the colander? I’m worried about picking them. I feel like once you pick them you have to start drying them or else they start oxidizing.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: meowjinx]
    #26936146 - 09/14/20 11:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I hate returning stuff too but it seems like the best bet to me. Every single thread I have ever read by trusted cultivators says that once you pick them you need to dry them as fast as possible. I’d rather keep them on the cake for a few more hours and then pick/dehydrate them over risking them starting to oxidize because the fan wasn’t sufficient. I’m super antsy haha! I looked at them a few hours ago when fanning and then came back down to cut the light off and saw broken veils. I was like “oh shit, this wasn’t supposed to happen for a few more days”


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936149 - 09/14/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yea u pluck from the cake. U don't want your cake to dry since you can get more out of them stil but Idk what flush your on but usually you can get 3 out of a decent cake before contaminants set in.

I dried this mushroom with a fan 4 years ago and I just took these photos. Perfectly preserved besides me handling it over the years


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936160 - 09/14/20 11:30 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Haha I know. I think we’re both talking about something different. This is my first flush, I was thinking you meant throw the whole cake in the colander and fan dry them to stop moisture from accumulating but you were talking about picking them. That’s what I was saying I don’t want to do. Oxidization starts when you pick them from the cakes and I am trying to avoid that by all costs. That’s why I would rather just go get a cheap dehydrator in the morning and then pick/immediately put them into that.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936170 - 09/14/20 11:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Technically they are always oxidizing. It only increases once picked and moisture accumulates. Picking and Drying them with a fan isn't gonna do them any more harm than if u were to wait for the dehydrator. The amount you'd loose would be so miniscule you wouldn't even notice. Just don't bruise them, cause the bluing is the active agents oxidizing and you don't want that. Some people also belive if you let them develope to much then the potency also goes down.


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: blindsighted]
    #26936181 - 09/14/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve read that too..I should have ordered it earlier but I just thought about it today! I looked at some pics of people waiting an extra day or so after the veils break to pick and they all seemed fine. I set my alarm for 6:45 so I’ll be there when they open. About half of them still have unbroken veils so I’m sure it will be fine. I know that when I wake up they will most likely all be broken (which sucks because I was planning on doing it right before) but it should be fine. This is my first flush for the cakes (and in general) so at least I’ll know what to look for on the next flush. I was positive that they had another day or so but that shows you how much I know


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Re: Veils breaking, dehydrator coming in 2 days [Re: Psylofan90]
    #26936199 - 09/15/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Sometimes I have way too much fresh shrooms to fit in my dehydrator so I do it in increments, everything that needs to be picked but doesn't fit in the dehydrator goes in the fridge in tupper wares or shoeboxes with foil over the lid so it has a bit of air circulation.

Have kept them in fridge for 7+ days


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