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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Asante]
    #26938210 - 09/16/20 01:30 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

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I think its a bit too early for solar panels as I expect the cost factor of that to drop dramatically in the coming few years.





Not only will it drop but they'll become more efficient the best ones we have now I believe are only like 25 percent efficient.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: budmanman]
    #26938215 - 09/16/20 01:34 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

land is only as valuable as the smartest/poorest motherfucker that knows how to work it

solar panels have doubled greenhouse emissions together with natural gas 

they need to burn sulfur hexaflouride which is 30Kx moar potent than CO2


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938219 - 09/16/20 01:34 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

to make panels


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938227 - 09/16/20 01:46 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

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More than 10,000 tons of SF
6 are produced per year, most of which (over 8,000 tons) is used as a gaseous dielectric medium in the electrical industry.[11] Other main uses include an inert gas for the casting of magnesium, and as an inert filling for insulated glazing window

Global emissions of carbon dioxide 1998-2018
Published by Ian Tiseo, Sep 2, 2020
Over the past 20 years, global carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from fossil fuels and industry have been steadily increasing, and by 2018 reached a record high of 36.6 billion metric tons. The only time during this period when emissions have dropped was in 2009, which was due to the economic downturn of the global recession. Historically, major global events cause emission reductions.

Some math, 10,000 tons times 30,000 increased potency =300M
Co2 is produced at 36.6 billion metric tons, last I checked 36.6 billion >>>300M even if your conversion factor of 30k is right


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Ice9]
    #26938230 - 09/16/20 01:50 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

idk how greenhouse gasses work

also weight is not mols dummy


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938232 - 09/16/20 01:52 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

sf6 146.06 g/mol

co2 like 20


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938235 - 09/16/20 01:59 AM (7 days, 10 hours ago)

and i know that might hurt my argument im just saying that its climate science is crazy complicated


most of our greenhouse gasses are formed by plant VOC's reactions with human emissions

i wonder how much agriculture destroying the food web decreased CO2 total emissions by killing total life


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938256 - 09/16/20 02:25 AM (7 days, 9 hours ago)

If you don't own a house or property then put it into that. Paying a landlord is the worst financial mistake you could ever make.

If you can't afford a house then buy land a put a trailer/tent on it or build a little cabin. Fix up the house and/or land. Paint the house, reshingle, make a garden and grow weed. Then and sell it for more money in a couple years. Invest that money into a better house and into stocks.

I invested into a house, fixed it up, and now it's worth double in just 3 years. I also invested in crypto and lately the stock market. Just started putting small amounts into stocks recently. I got a cruise line stock, Davita dialysis, and Alaska Airlines. Put in $1500 and now it's worth $1650 in less than a month!


If I was young and starting all over with $10,000 then I would buy a cheap RV and drive it to a high paying city like San Francisco. I would work construction or a higher paying job at over $35 an hour and live in the RV for a couple years. After that I would have enough money saved to buy a house with cash, especially in a cheaper state I would live like a king.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Psyche delics]
    #26938356 - 09/16/20 06:02 AM (7 days, 6 hours ago)

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I think its a bit too early for solar panels as I expect the cost factor of that to drop dramatically in the coming few years.





Not only will it drop but they'll become more efficient the best ones we have now I believe are only like 25 percent efficient.





Tesla has roof tiles with solar incorporated into them.

An innovative company is working on solar cell PAINT, you give your house a paint job, it nets electricity. There are film-based solar cells that are not high yielding but dirt cheap.

Its kinda like with LED lightning: in the beginning it was clumsy and highly expensive, now its tiny, efficient and the norm.

Solar will go the same trajectory. Demand is increasing enormously making drastic innovations and price cuts possible. China is putting its shoulders under the project of making solar abundant and affordable. Then you know you will see results. Think of Three Gorges Dam or those negative pressure COVID hospitals assembled and disassembled on the spot. China knows how to get shit done.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Kelazam]
    #26938366 - 09/16/20 06:24 AM (7 days, 5 hours ago)

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What would be the most efficient way to invest ten thousand dollars?



Depends on the person, I'd do real estate you can buy a crack house and fix it up. Split it in to a duplex and you'll be slum lord in no time.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26938552 - 09/16/20 10:12 AM (7 days, 1 hour ago)

I think that is what I will do


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26938699 - 09/16/20 11:49 AM (7 days, 20 minutes ago)

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idk how greenhouse gasses work

also weight is not mols dummy




I just happen to be a chemist, CO2 MW is 44.01 g/mol and SF6 146.06 g/mol, meaning that 300M number is even way lower ratio wise to CO2.  This is why people focus on CO2 in climate change discussion, es there are tons of greenhoouse gasses, none compare to the amount of CO2 we produce,.  Also thanks for making my argument and looking like a complete ass at the same time.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Ice9]
    #26939013 - 09/16/20 03:07 PM (6 days, 21 hours ago)

solar panels are filled with scams i read this couple gave this company 20k for solar panels and the company folded and never put up anything. Id give it a few more years


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Gorlax]
    #26939118 - 09/16/20 03:56 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

There are better ways so generate passive electricity, solar is only really viable in certain parts of the world.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26939126 - 09/16/20 03:58 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

indeed it should be strategically used where nuclear isnt an option and there are enough sunny days


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26939142 - 09/16/20 04:05 PM (6 days, 20 hours ago)

To be fair though, if someone gave me the choice of $10,000 riding in the S&P 500 or $10,000 riding in 12 ounces of platinum, I'd opt for the metal at this point in time.


I expect the US economy to tank and a number of major S&P 500 companies taking to other countries.

I expect the US to go to shit in the coming years and no longer being the first world power.

Just "Make America Great Again" says enough. The US nuked the fridge.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Asante]
    #26939162 - 09/16/20 04:17 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

I had a kilo of platinum and traded it for bitcoins but bitcoins were only worth 300$ at the time. I sold em and felt rich now I hate myself seeing bitcoin at 10k for just 1!!! It helped me buy a house at least.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Gorlax]
    #26939188 - 09/16/20 04:30 PM (6 days, 19 hours ago)

Hey thats not too bad! A house is precious!

Imagine how the guy felt who spent 20,000 bitcoin on a takeaway pizza.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Asante]
    #26939682 - 09/16/20 09:14 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago)

I used to get drug on the silk road, wish I had just kept the bitcoin lol. Made a quick flip when the covid crash hit I bought up a buncha crypto. Anything is better than the USD rn its tanking hard from the inflation. If you look at stocks and other and what not it may seem like the value is increasing but in reality the relative value to the USD is just changing rapidly. The real estate and used car game have been wild this year. I estimate the trillions in stimulus has decreasedthe usd value by about 20%. Maybe putting the whole country on welfare was a bad idea.
Aside from the virus the biggest wealth transfer in history is about to take place when all the boomers die. 9/10 small businesses will be killed. This is getting to be a true dystopia.


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Re: Investing $10,000 [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26939688 - 09/16/20 09:17 PM (6 days, 14 hours ago)

the only thing that scares me about bitcoin is if we lose power they are useless. Right now it seems guns are pretty essential but I live in a gun happy state. I was renting the house out but I had a crazy situation occur so I’m done doing that. lol 20,000’bitcoins for a pizza that has to hurt so bad right now. seriously thats 200 million of almost untraceable money. reminds me of those bitcoins investors on snapchat.


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