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Quadman
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Pressure Cooker😨
#26935451 - 09/14/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just saw this and thought I would share. WOW! Please be careful Shroomites.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: Quadman]
#26935531 - 09/14/20 04:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, I fell asleep and warped the bottom of one once. Glad I’ve never had an incident like that picture though.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: Danger]
#26935581 - 09/14/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, mom's gonna be pissed 
Kidding. Hope that wasn't you...
Good reminder to make sure the lid is sealed and locked and that your blowoff hole doesn't get clogged!!
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: Forrester]
#26935597 - 09/14/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Naw, just saw it on social media and copied the pic. If you google images there some others , not quite as impressive. 😂😂 I pray my 941 never does this, my kitchen might be gone. 😲
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Edited by Quadman (09/14/20 05:14 PM)
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SHROOMSISAY01
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: Quadman]
#26935884 - 09/14/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Too many close calls are precisely why my PC is PID and timer controlled!! No more babysitting my PC. But I guess it takes major damage or injury before some people learn how dangerous a PC can be...



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So I guess I should avoid listening for boiling water when Im 3 hours in and nervous that its getting dry?
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SHROOMSISAY01
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When your PC starts running dry the rocker will slow down. But I only use maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch of water in 4 hours. If you put weight on your rocker with washers you will not use as much water. I bought 5 large washers from lowes that fit perfectly.
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@SHROOMSISAY01 Just mention that PC must be controlled by a controller, otherwise adding extra weight will increase pressure and might be dangerous.
Edited by bogdancev (09/15/20 12:28 AM)
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev]
#26936437 - 09/15/20 06:32 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bogdancev said: @SHROOMSISAY01 Just mention that PC must be controlled by a controller, otherwise adding extra weight will increase pressure and might be dangerous.
Either way, you have to control the temperature either by adjusting your stove or by a PID controller. It is not like you can put your PC on the stove and turn it on and forget about it. Well, you can but I think that is how this thread got started!! The extra weight on the rocker just keeps you from losing steam as quickly. So you will not lose as much water letting you run longer without replacing the water in your PC. Once you have the PC set you should check it every 15 minutes whether you have weight on the rocker or not. I use the PID so I don't have to babysit my PC I set the time and walk away and don't think about it for hours and by that time it is finished.
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I thought you could have rockers with a weight for 5, 10 and 15 psi. So if you add weight to 15psi rocker you would make it more. If you have a controller it is not a problem because controller uses other means to measure the pressure meanwhile heavier rocker will prevent water loss.
But if you don't use a controller, you will just increase pressure depending on extra weight but this will not prevent loss of water.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev]
#26936467 - 09/15/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, that is correct. But you have to adjust your stove heat to keep the PC from going above the 15 psi. Even if you have the 15 psi weight on it you will have problems if you just leave the PC and do not adjust the temp. Maybe that is how this thread got started. Someone may have thought the 15 psi weight did all the work. You make the weight more but you have to adjust the psi by how much heat you put under the PC. If I leave the heat full blast my pc will reach 20 psi easily with the 15 psi weight on it. The only difference is I will lose more water and maybe blow up my house. So I use a heavier weight and less heat instead of lighter weight and more heat.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (09/15/20 07:07 AM)
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: ...But you have to adjust your stove heat to keep the PC from going above the 15 psi...
I would disagree here. I think you can find a knob position on your stove that you don't have to adjust. In case of my stock electric stove it is 4th position (out of 6). Once it reaches 15psi rocker starts to rock and then pressure further reaches about 17psi with rocker constantly rocking and stays there. Kind of equilibrium.
The important thing here is to know amount of water loss per time. It my case it is 3.5 cups for 90min run.
I guess all of that is different with gas stoves as their control is analogue.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev]
#26936530 - 09/15/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok, so you say it is position 4 out of 6. Then you have adjusted your stove to 4. Unless you have a magic stove that automatically goes to the right temp. You might know the correct position as I did when I used my stove But you have to adjust it. My point is that people run there PC's for much longer than 90 minutes and you will lose your water and end up damaging your PC if this happens. With a heavier weight, it is the same thing you just have to use less heat because you are losing less steam. Once you know the correct position you can set it but you should still check your PC every 15 mins or something like that or that is dangerous. You don't have to adjust it every 15 mins you should just check it to make sure everything is doing what it should be doing.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev]
#26936533 - 09/15/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bogdancev said:
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: ...But you have to adjust your stove heat to keep the PC from going above the 15 psi...
I would disagree here. I think you can find a knob position on your stove that you don't have to adjust. In case of my stock electric stove it is 4th position (out of 6). Once it reaches 15psi rocker starts to rock and then pressure further reaches about 17psi with rocker constantly rocking and stays there. Kind of equilibrium.
The important thing here is to know amount of water loss per time. It my case it is 3.5 cups for 90min run.
I guess all of that is different with gas stoves as their control is analogue.
I don't think you're supposed to disagree with the man,then prove his point in the next sentence! lol If you're constantly rocking at 17 you're losing more water than necessary. Btw ...what's kind of equilibrium?
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev] 1
#26936572 - 09/15/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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bogdancev said: I thought you could have rockers with a weight for 5, 10 and 15 psi. So if you add weight to 15psi rocker you would make it more. If you have a controller it is not a problem because controller uses other means to measure the pressure meanwhile heavier rocker will prevent water loss.
But if you don't use a controller, you will just increase pressure depending on extra weight but this will not prevent loss of water.
So how do you lose water then? You lose water by steam escaping through the rocker port. More weight stops the escape of water/steam through the rocker port. You are arguing against a point I have already proven and not only me but many other people have proven that you lose less water with more weight. In 3 to four hours I would lose like 4 inches of water now I lose maybe 1 inch if that.
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SHROOMSISAY01 said: More weight stops the escape of water/steam through the rocker port.
Yes! Provided that you control the process via a controller. But if you put more weight without a controller, then you will just increase the pressure. That is the point I want to make. In your original post you did not mention about controller and that might mislead people.
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev] 1
#26936670 - 09/15/20 09:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't understand how you can not get it. No heat no pressure. You control the pressure with the amount of heat. Just because you have more weight does not mean you have more pressure. You adjust the heat to where you have 15 psi it does not matter how the heat is adjusted you can use a controller or you can do it by hand. Once the heat is stabilized it will stay at 15 psi just as if you only use the 15 psi weight with no adjustments and you will lose less water. I don't think you have a problem understanding. I think you have a problem with being wrong. Well, let me help you out. YOU ARE WRONG!! I am not trying to be harsh. Next time you use your PC tape some quarters to the rocker and you will see you can adjust the stove by hand and get it to 15 psi and you will lose less water.
Edited by SHROOMSISAY01 (09/15/20 09:52 AM)
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Re: Pressure Cooker😨 [Re: bogdancev]
#26936705 - 09/15/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is quite simple not sure how it became a debate haha. The weight realeases steam above 15psi. Steam is water lol. You lose steam, you lose water. If you add a little weight TO your rocker, then your steam release threshold is now a few psi more, lets say 17 or 18. This does not mean you will get a false reading or will now be running at that psi. It will def prevent alot of water loss bc 15psi no longer vents. You just need to keep it at the sweet spot manually. Prettttty simple. Cool trick too Im gonna do that.
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Suppose I have 6 position stove where position #4 is the first position that reaches 15psi. But it also strong enough to go more, so if I put more weight -- it WILL go more.
Thus I have 2 choices: 1. As you said -- sit next to it and switch between 4 and 3 every 5-10min so it does not steam. 2. Know my water loss and add water accordingly, put on #4, once it starts whistle put timer and wait without a need to check every "15 min".
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