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Anonymous #1

Does racial tension perpetuate racism?
    #26934609 - 09/14/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My whole life ive lived in places with deep rooted racial tension.

My uncle, got into his car one night after work and some guy put a pistol to him attempting to rob him.
Long story short, he took 8 in the back.

He now is missing a part of his liver as well as his gal bladder.
He had to wear a colostomy bag for a long time after this.
A few years later we went to this diner.
The waitress asked him why he was limping.
He blatantly said
"a n****r shot me in the back"

A few years after that he showed up at this Halloween party as lil wayne with a bucket of kfc in one hand and a 40 in the other.

A few weeks ago I was waiting at a bus stop, this dark skinned guy was blaring ratchet autotune rap music on a portable speaker.

This older man politely askes him to turn it down and got instantly punched out.
It wasnt long after that transit security stepped in...


I would argue racial tension in the the U.S is at an all time high.
The thing is, the media only really covers one side of it.
Someone who is genuinely racist sees a bunch of BLM protestors Burning cars and destroying businesses and it ultimately just deepens their beliefs.

Does racial tension perpetuate racism?
I feel like it does, but im willing to listen to anyone who can tell me off.


Edited by Anonymous (09/14/20 07:00 AM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26934627 - 09/14/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The riots must be working because I’m much less racist now! Actually, I don’t have any problems with black people. White liberal millennials on the other hand...I just want to oppress them out of existence.


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Anonymous #3

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26934633 - 09/14/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Racial tension is energy that is not discharged, like a thunderstorm before the rain and thunder.

Racial tension must discharge by TALKING IT OUT LIKE ADULTS.

Then you find common ground and can hug it out as men.

LET IT RAIN AND THUNDER!




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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26934636 - 09/14/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You're definitely right about it. But also the heart of the issue is probably that one side has been systematically put down for a very very long time. This is also why media covers mostly one side of it, because wte a black dude does doesn't come close to what the whole/system has been doing for generations to millions of blacks. I guess many of the blacks don't see things getting any better and thus dont give a fuck anymore.

It sucks that it is as it is, but know that once the state/government apparatus/system is equal to everyone no matter the race y'all still have loads of issues to work through. Why do you have children shooting up schools, why do you have some of the biggest companies in the world but still bad wages, why do you have such weird media, why dont you have universal healthcare. Like its 2020 people and you are still slaves to corporations. People are not happy, instead of blaming the people in power, those responsible for your actual issues: the focus is on other people with no actual power. Just hate that breeds more hate while others are making money off all of yall.

PS! using the term black as Im European and dont really know what the politically correct term is in the US, so dont read too much into it if its not an acceptable term there.


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Anonymous #5

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26934690 - 09/14/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I think racism is a biological mechanism. Species are known to largely stick to their kind, at least social animals. When you present yourself as a person of another colour it can trigger a kind of tribalism.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26935139 - 09/14/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
I think racism is a biological mechanism. Species are known to largely stick to their kind, at least social animals. When you present yourself as a person of another colour it can trigger a kind of tribalism.





Have you even been to school? You know that all people are the same species right?


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Anonymous #5

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26935155 - 09/14/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Do you know what a subspecies is? Mr. Tough School Guy. You are clearly the one who does not understand. If I hold a knife and smile at you for long enough are you going to question why I'm doing such a thing? Or no because you're so evolved that instincts are just things you leave outside the classroom?


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Anonymous #6

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #26935176 - 09/14/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
it can trigger a kind of tribalism.



So can wearing a different colour, or speaking a different language, or supporting a different football team.

It's a shit analogy.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5] * 1
    #26935260 - 09/14/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
Do you know what a subspecies is? Mr. Tough School Guy. You are clearly the one who does not understand. If I hold a knife and smile at you for long enough are you going to question why I'm doing such a thing? Or no because you're so evolved that instincts are just things you leave outside the classroom?




Jesus, you know that we are all subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens right? Like your Taiwanese neighbor is not Homo sapiens sapiens asianians. The other subspecies of Homo sapiens is Homo sapiens idaltu and they are not alive anymore.

Please just keep to subjects you already know. Im not American, I don't buy conspiracy theories and made up science from forum debates :wink: Here in europe we discuss things based on facts not on whats hot from your local backwater church or 4chan threads with Qanon theories. Op made a very clear discussion about racial tensions not made up subspecies in your imaginary world. Keep to topic or start another thread for like minded individuals.


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Anonymous #7

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26935599 - 09/14/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I judge people on how they act.  How I see them act.  It rarely misleads me.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #26935785 - 09/14/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #6 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
it can trigger a kind of tribalism.



So can wearing a different colour, or speaking a different language, or supporting a different football team.

It's a shit analogy.




That's all very true, but it's obviously not to the same degree. Racial tribalism is alive and well in all humans, some are just better at managing that tribalism through experience and intellect.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26935791 - 09/14/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

To answer the OP question, diversity of races in the same environment usually leads to racial tension. It's even worse when there's racial oppression involved, which is usually the case.

As we can see today, the historic oppression of certain races still leads to racial tensions. So there is no solution because we can't erase the past and trying to fix history by attacking the ancestors of those people isn't a good idea for obvious reasons. The US and race relations is just a big mess that's never going away. Calling white people racist for just existing isn't going to work and the inevitable backlash then comes as a big surprise.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26936038 - 09/14/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

It just seems to me like both sides are just digging in deeper at this point.

Some of the most racist people ive ever known are either cops or work in the penal system.

Earlier today there was footage on TV of a knife wielding man running at a cop before being shot dead.

Happened somewhere in Pennsylvania

Yet now there are protests because of it.

I firmly believe brandishing a knife at someone is a death threat, and should be greeted with a firm and probably violent response.


Edited by Anonymous (09/14/20 10:10 PM)


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Anonymous #7

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26936226 - 09/15/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

News is dumping a lot of the gas on this shit and believe there are people whose best interest is to have us all fighting each other.  As much shit as the US gets it has been a significant factor in a lot of bad people not getting their way.

You’re in control of you.  Social media and the news are brain cancer.  Be good, or don’t, whatever you choose.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #26936257 - 09/15/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If you choose to not be informed, you are choosing to be ignorant.


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Anonymous #9

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26936314 - 09/15/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct


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Anonymous #9

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26936316 - 09/15/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Diversity is strength, you bigot!


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #26936472 - 09/15/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct




Dude, just because something is a social construct doesn't mean its effects are not real. The very fact that something is constructed for a social context means it very much has an effect on that social context. Language is a social construct and the fact that we are using it this very moment to communicate means its very real! And if I would use language to tell you something very negative about yourself, then the effect of language is very real. Meaning you would feel something, probably something negative.

People who develop these ideas (like social construct) in sociology and other social sciences understand this. If you are gonna use a term, try at least to understand what it actually means.

Also you should know that even though racism is ugly, dirty and something that speaks to our most sadistic impulses doesn't mean that races are not real. There is very much a very slight difference to our DNA which helps scientist for example know where your ancestors used to live. But it doesn't mean that there is a cognitive differences between us. In other words, being black doesnt mean you are smarter than being white, or the other way around. However, through systemic oppression such as the one conducted in the US against blacks and other minorities it may definitely lead to differences in behaviour. Having access to acceptable standards of living have a uge impact on groups and individuals. Neuroplasticity is very very very real. Give a person access to bad schools, few resources, hate, no access to good credit, low paying jobs, low nutrition etc will definitely lead to them having a bad impact on society in turn.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26936703 - 09/15/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #9 said:
There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct




Dude, just because something is a social construct doesn't mean its effects are not real. The very fact that something is constructed for a social context means it very much has an effect on that social context. Language is a social construct and the fact that we are using it this very moment to communicate means its very real! And if I would use language to tell you something very negative about yourself, then the effect of language is very real. Meaning you would feel something, probably something negative.

People who develop these ideas (like social construct) in sociology and other social sciences understand this. If you are gonna use a term, try at least to understand what it actually means.

Also you should know that even though racism is ugly, dirty and something that speaks to our most sadistic impulses doesn't mean that races are not real. There is very much a very slight difference to our DNA which helps scientist for example know where your ancestors used to live. But it doesn't mean that there is a cognitive differences between us. In other words, being black doesnt mean you are smarter than being white, or the other way around. However, through systemic oppression such as the one conducted in the US against blacks and other minorities it may definitely lead to differences in behaviour. Having access to acceptable standards of living have a uge impact on groups and individuals. Neuroplasticity is very very very real. Give a person access to bad schools, few resources, hate, no access to good credit, low paying jobs, low nutrition etc will definitely lead to them having a bad impact on society in turn.




At the same time, you can't rule out the potential for cognitive differences, especially since the test results keep on coming up with the same findings. Now people can keep up using the same rationalizations for those results, but you can't rule out genetic differences. Just saying it appears there's only slight genetic differences between the races doesn't mean that small differences doesn't produce different cognitive results.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26936803 - 09/15/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:

At the same time, you can't rule out the potential for cognitive differences, especially since the test results keep on coming up with the same findings. Now people can keep up using the same rationalizations for those results, but you can't rule out genetic differences. Just saying it appears there's only slight genetic differences between the races doesn't mean that small differences doesn't produce different cognitive results.




I thought about that too, but even if there were differences their impact would only be felt if the entire world was equal. Once everyone gets access to the same level of nutrition, resources education, etc. Then you would feel the nuances. As it is for the foreseeable future it doesnt matter one bit. And with advances in genetic modifications Im pretty sure that even when the world is nearing being very equal (if that happens) then the rich will be able to make more use of gene editing to get ahead, so race will still not matter.


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Anonymous #8

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26936970 - 09/15/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #4 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:

At the same time, you can't rule out the potential for cognitive differences, especially since the test results keep on coming up with the same findings. Now people can keep up using the same rationalizations for those results, but you can't rule out genetic differences. Just saying it appears there's only slight genetic differences between the races doesn't mean that small differences doesn't produce different cognitive results.




I thought about that too, but even if there were differences their impact would only be felt if the entire world was equal. Once everyone gets access to the same level of nutrition, resources education, etc. Then you would feel the nuances. As it is for the foreseeable future it doesnt matter one bit. And with advances in genetic modifications Im pretty sure that even when the world is nearing being very equal (if that happens) then the rich will be able to make more use of gene editing to get ahead, so race will still not matter.




You're under the false assumption that all blacks across the whole globe are under the same potential disadvantages as a third world African and that's simply not true. You're also operating under the false assumption that all Asians have superior nutrition and resources, that's also not true. Again, the rationalizations are never ending and the results are constantly dismissed.

Either way, we can only live in a world where we accept certain people are disadvantaged by other humans and not by their genetic racial characteristics.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #26937205 - 09/15/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
You're under the false assumption that all blacks across the whole globe are under the same potential disadvantages as a third world African and that's simply not true. You're also operating under the false assumption that all Asians have superior nutrition and resources, that's also not true. Again, the rationalizations are never ending and the results are constantly dismissed.

Either way, we can only live in a world where we accept certain people are disadvantaged by other humans and not by their genetic racial characteristics.




Actually I was making none of those assumptions in regards to blacks and Asians I was speaking generally. As in: if there are any differences, those differences mean zero until everyone is on the same level in terms of standards of living.

I agree with you on this : "Either way, we can only live in a world where we accept certain people are disadvantaged by other humans and not by their genetic racial characteristics"

Like I said earlier, even if those differences exist they are so small that they don't even matter. What matters are the advantages one has and what one does with them.

For instance I am from and live in a north European country. In terms of advantages I have so many more than most Americans, white or of any color. I can study for free (got all the way to a master's and now applying for doctorate studies). I have access to one of the best healthcare in the world for barely a symbolic price. And the list goes on. All people from my country have access to this and more, but not everyone takes advantage of it. Im not smarter than the average Joe, but I have been fortunate to be here and take advantage of it. And now I can continue my studies and be an asset to my country.

But if I had been a black American, lol I'd probably be dealing drugs or something because you live in a country that dont give you any advantages. It just pushes you down. And whats fucked up it doesnt just push down blacks, it does so with pratically everyone in the middle class and down. But everyone is so busy blaming everyone other than the people in power


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #9]
    #26937872 - 09/15/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

"There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct"

Sounds oddly reminiscent of those idiots that claim gender is a social construct.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26937880 - 09/15/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Even if it was a construct, culture sure as shit isnt.

You know how the Chinese are pushy
Indians love to argue
and Americans are stupid


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Anonymous #10

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #2]
    #26944838 - 09/19/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Actually, I don’t have any problems with black people. White liberal millennials on the other hand...I just want to oppress them out of existence.




I am with you 100%. The white SJW lib is the worst of the worst.


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Anonymous #11

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #26962246 - 09/30/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I predict in the future we will once again segregate, and in 20 years the black areas will look like Haiti and they'll demand access to white folks again.. maybe if we freed them of their Jewish masters they could grow


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #26963178 - 10/01/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
I predict in the future we will once again segregate, and in 20 years the black areas will look like Haiti and they'll demand access to white folks again.. maybe if we freed them of their Jewish masters they could grow




I predict that its not about race but about money. Rich folks enjoy the fact that broke ass white trash people hate on blacks so they just let them keep at it while the entire US middle and lower class are basically slaves to the top. Enjoy being an ignorant slave who hate on the unfortunate just like yourself :smile:

Meanwhile in my country: free university education, top infrastructure, free top healthcare, free schools and kindergarten, nice neighbors (for the most part), less dead corona people, a prime minister that is respectful to others and his peers, debates that are respectful to the citizens, no systematic racism, low amount of bigots, and more. We pay for it with taxes, which is fine because salaries are not slave-level. America is worse than African countries Ive been to. Over here we are having a laugh at you burning up your country. And yall are like "but communism!" *laughs in social-democracy*


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26963204 - 10/01/20 02:37 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

You're not Canadian are you?
Those Justin Trudeau black face pictures are pretty amazing..

If pictures like that surfaced of trump there would be a full scale race war.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26963254 - 10/01/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Nah none of that America stuff. Northern Europe here :thumbsup:

Your right, Trump does orange face instead. Keeping it safe :wink: No but on a more serious note, your president said on live TV that he wants his Proud Boys (is proud linked to pride and LGBTQ?) to stand by... A white supremacy/ wanna-be-nazi group. Thats way worse than black face? Which is kind of fucked up considering that the US was a major player in kicking the real nazi's ass. But that was when the US was actually a leader. Now its just a shit show. Good for memes though.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
    #26963260 - 10/01/20 04:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They're a bunch of assholes, even as right leaning as I am trump is more and more becoming undefendable.
I dont even like trump, this is just what has become of our broken political system.

I think one of the biggest problems with racism in America is that it is deep rooted and hides in plain sight.

I recently got through reading this book
"Dark Soul of the South: The Life and Crimes of Racist Killer Joseph Paul Franklin"
It is really a great testament of racism in America.
He's the guy that shot Larry Flint (the creator of hustler magazine)

This guy claimed to be a hitman for the KKK and traveled around the country for years murdering people.

At one point he is arrested in Kentucky and openly admitted to murdering 2 black teenagers.

The Kentucky police put him in a minimum security holding cell with the window open and he escaped.....


Edited by Anonymous (10/01/20 04:13 AM)


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Anonymous #12

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27005114 - 10/26/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Racism is perpetuated by those people of any race who can use racial division to advance their own power - economic, political, social, whatever.  There's always gonna be some small part of all groups that is racist - that thinks other groups are bad because of their race or religion or whatever.  Those people aren't the real problem.  The real problem is the people who have the incentive and the ability to fan the flames and profit from it.  There's no shortage of politicians who use racial division and resentment as their main schtick.


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Anonymous #1

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #27011335 - 10/30/20 12:29 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Ive been thinking about this a lot lately.
Personally whenever some person of color or other minority has fucked me over in the past, in a word or two, it made my mind jump to "Fuck those pieces of shit"

But every time, not long after that, I'd encounter someone of that group that made me realize how bullshit it is to think that way.

Racism is simply not compatible with being open minded of intelligent....
Period.
There are garbage people of all races, but there are also more genuine good people that get a bad rap in someone's eyes.

That being said, all groups of people unfairly perceive certain groups of people.

It always amazes me how horrible black people are to gay people and Asians.
Like people literally judge you based on the way you were born every single day, and you really cant relate to that?
Especially with gay people....
The only reason any of them think badly of gays is because of some religion that was forced upon them by their slave masters.......


Edited by Anonymous (10/30/20 12:42 AM)


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Anonymous #7

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27011415 - 10/30/20 03:08 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
The only reason any of them think badly of gays is because of some religion that was forced upon them by their slave masters.......




:archiebunker:

I was with you until that part.


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Anonymous #13

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27011418 - 10/30/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Someone old guy near me was beaten to death recently for asking some young kid who was blaring music in public to turn it down. The kid was white, so was the guy who asked him to turn it down.

I've been in some shady situations, but not one single time has a black guy done anything to me. In fact, more often than not, they seem to be almost afraid of me. In every situation where someone has fucked with me or tried to start a fight with me or said shit to me, it was always a young white guy, every single time.

People of any race can commit crimes or be assholes. Not every black guy is going to be an upstanding wonderful person, and not every white guy is either. If a black guy does something bad to you, a lot of people will immediately jump to hating all black people, but we wouldn't do that if the guy was white. That wouldn't make sense, right? So why do we do it for a black guy?

Even if you've had many negative experiences with black people, it doesn't make sense to think that the color of their skin was what made them do it, and it doesn't make sense to think everyone who has that skin color is going to be like that. I'm sure if you think about it, you can think of a hell of a lot of black people who aren't like that, so why would you blame all black people? Not all black people are the same, just like not all white people are the same. You already know this, I don't need to say it, it's obvious that people with the same skin color are still different people and can be wildly different. Two white people aren't identical just because they're both white, and neither are two black people.


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Anonymous #4

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #27011463 - 10/30/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

So in the end we have landed in that its absolutely moronic to think the melanin levels in someones skin has any bearing to how good/bad a person is. There are idiots of all races and religions. In the end we should all strive to judge shitty individuals on who they are as individuals not on some abstract collective level. This doesn't mean that there aren't collectives out there that are shitty (but people more or less willingly join those): gangs and gang members, nazi-groups and their members, terrorists, pedophiles and pedophile rings etc.


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Anonymous #14

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #27011612 - 10/30/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #13 said:




Even if you've had many negative experiences with black people, it doesn't make sense to think that the color of their skin was what made them do it, and it doesn't make sense to think everyone who has that skin color is going to be like that. I'm sure if you think about it, you can think of a hell of a lot of black people who aren't like that, so why would you blame all black people? Not all black people are the same, just like not all white people are the same. You already know this, I don't need to say it, it's obvious that people with the same skin color are still different people and can be wildly different. Two white people aren't identical just because they're both white, and neither are two black people.




I've had 20x the amount of bad experiences with blacks then good. Now when I go into an area or an encounter with someone black I am much more cautious. It has effectively saved my life more then I care to admit.

See here is the thing. The media is what drives us to hate people who are different then us. Take 3 children and put them in a room. Each is his own race. I guarantee they don't go I don't want to hang out with this person cuz they are xyz race. It won't happen unless someone has pushed that thought into their head. The media wants a race divide in this country to shy away from all the bullshit they do to us behind closed doors. Hey this black man just got shot by cops. Fuck cops let's start a riot.(while in the background we are  silently doing everything we can to fuck over this country but it's cops and black people's faults.

I just want to say america is stupid. Racism only exists because it is taught or learned and the media perpetuates that hatred. I'm not saying they don't have racism other places but America takes the stupidity cake.

Also for whoever said that we don't give black people the same standards to live by is completely absurd. The amount of scholarships for free school, free food, free government help etc etc. Black people in america are far far from oppressed. We have a shit judicial system which is racist as fuck. I have been through it first hand... However when it comes to free basic things and advancement of future.. instead of using these thing in the projects they are recruiting 5 year old to skip school and gang bang. It's offered to you to have a real life and probably for free. Choices are your own


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Anonymous #8

Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27012288 - 10/30/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Ive been thinking about this a lot lately.
Personally whenever some person of color or other minority has fucked me over in the past, in a word or two, it made my mind jump to "Fuck those pieces of shit"

But every time, not long after that, I'd encounter someone of that group that made me realize how bullshit it is to think that way.

Racism is simply not compatible with being open minded of intelligent....
Period.
There are garbage people of all races, but there are also more genuine good people that get a bad rap in someone's eyes.

That being said, all groups of people unfairly perceive certain groups of people.

It always amazes me how horrible black people are to gay people and Asians.
Like people literally judge you based on the way you were born every single day, and you really cant relate to that?
Especially with gay people....
The only reason any of them think badly of gays is because of some religion that was forced upon them by their slave masters.......




The issue you're ignoring is that race is highly correlated with culture. So when you say you shouldn't judge an individual based on race, you're requiring them to throw away the culture that's highly likely associated with that race. Again, it's not a perfect system of judgment, but that's why the prejudgment exists in the first place.

What most people also ignore is that people also prejudge people of their own race for a large variety of reasons, somehow that isn't racism, it's just normal behavior.


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #14] * 1
    #27012300 - 10/30/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #14 said:
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Anonymous #13 said:




Even if you've had many negative experiences with black people, it doesn't make sense to think that the color of their skin was what made them do it, and it doesn't make sense to think everyone who has that skin color is going to be like that. I'm sure if you think about it, you can think of a hell of a lot of black people who aren't like that, so why would you blame all black people? Not all black people are the same, just like not all white people are the same. You already know this, I don't need to say it, it's obvious that people with the same skin color are still different people and can be wildly different. Two white people aren't identical just because they're both white, and neither are two black people.




I've had 20x the amount of bad experiences with blacks then good. Now when I go into an area or an encounter with someone black I am much more cautious. It has effectively saved my life more then I care to admit.

See here is the thing. The media is what drives us to hate people who are different then us. Take 3 children and put them in a room. Each is his own race. I guarantee they don't go I don't want to hang out with this person cuz they are xyz race. It won't happen unless someone has pushed that thought into their head. The media wants a race divide in this country to shy away from all the bullshit they do to us behind closed doors. Hey this black man just got shot by cops. Fuck cops let's start a riot.(while in the background we are  silently doing everything we can to fuck over this country but it's cops and black people's faults.

I just want to say america is stupid. Racism only exists because it is taught or learned and the media perpetuates that hatred. I'm not saying they don't have racism other places but America takes the stupidity cake.

Also for whoever said that we don't give black people the same standards to live by is completely absurd. The amount of scholarships for free school, free food, free government help etc etc. Black people in america are far far from oppressed. We have a shit judicial system which is racist as fuck. I have been through it first hand... However when it comes to free basic things and advancement of future.. instead of using these thing in the projects they are recruiting 5 year old to skip school and gang bang. It's offered to you to have a real life and probably for free. Choices are your own




While I agree that the media is a very large force behind the racism, it isn't everything. People have real life experiences that support their future prejudgments. A black person has plenty of justifications in many cases to be racist against whites. If they have been victimized by whites their whole lives, their prejudgments are highly accurate in nature.


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #27013172 - 10/31/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

"What most people also ignore is that people also prejudge people of their own race for a large variety of reasons, somehow that isn't racism, it's just normal behavior."

A good point, "White trash" isn't a racial slur even though it directly addresses skin color.

Is there a black or hispanic version of white trash? Wordwise?
To me, white trash is more of a lifestyle than anything else.


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #27013198 - 10/31/20 01:50 AM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thinking about it, doesn't pretty much all homophobia stem from religion?

Muslim nations are some of the few places in the world that still have "anti buggary" laws where they execute gay people.

Arent the most religious countries also typically the most homophobic?
Russia
Ireland
Saudi Arabia
Jamaica
Mexico and everywhere else in central America.
Literally everywhere in Africa

The Greeks were extremely gay, and they were basically the blueprint for all modern civilizations.


Edited by Anonymous (10/31/20 01:50 AM)


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27015675 - 11/01/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

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Anonymous #1 said:
Thinking about it, doesn't pretty much all homophobia stem from religion?

Muslim nations are some of the few places in the world that still have "anti buggary" laws where they execute gay people.

Arent the most religious countries also typically the most homophobic?
Russia
Ireland
Saudi Arabia
Jamaica
Mexico and everywhere else in central America.
Literally everywhere in Africa

The Greeks were extremely gay, and they were basically the blueprint for all modern civilizations.




I think it's all too convenient to blame religion for homophobia. Do you know who also complains about homophobia?  Gays in the atheist community. Any minority group experiences backlash within the group, that's just human nature. Does religion compound the problem?  Absolutely.


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #27015856 - 11/01/20 02:29 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

I would argue yes, racial tension does reinforce racism. Its a deep-rooted issue that goes back centuries in time. Anytime one race does something negative, it just reinforces the stereotypes and prejudices of the person of the opposite race observing it. Places like the South have it really bad because the culture-clashing of Blacks and Whites that goes back decades in time. Black culture is very different than White Culture, and because of these differences in culture/beauty/values/music/art/communication/etc, it causes a ton of tension between the two races.


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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #27016564 - 11/01/20 11:08 PM (3 years, 2 months ago)

Thinking about everyone's responses.
More and more I think a lot of people blend together, prejudice and racism.
Racism is thinking one race of people is better than another.
Prejudice is having pre conceived notions and making inferences about people.

EVERYONE is prejudiced in their own ways based on the experiences they've had.


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