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Anonymous #1
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Does racial tension perpetuate racism?
#26934609 - 09/14/20 06:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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My whole life ive lived in places with deep rooted racial tension.
My uncle, got into his car one night after work and some guy put a pistol to him attempting to rob him. Long story short, he took 8 in the back.
He now is missing a part of his liver as well as his gal bladder. He had to wear a colostomy bag for a long time after this. A few years later we went to this diner. The waitress asked him why he was limping. He blatantly said "a n****r shot me in the back"
A few years after that he showed up at this Halloween party as lil wayne with a bucket of kfc in one hand and a 40 in the other.
A few weeks ago I was waiting at a bus stop, this dark skinned guy was blaring ratchet autotune rap music on a portable speaker.
This older man politely askes him to turn it down and got instantly punched out. It wasnt long after that transit security stepped in...
I would argue racial tension in the the U.S is at an all time high. The thing is, the media only really covers one side of it. Someone who is genuinely racist sees a bunch of BLM protestors Burning cars and destroying businesses and it ultimately just deepens their beliefs.
Does racial tension perpetuate racism? I feel like it does, but im willing to listen to anyone who can tell me off.
Edited by Anonymous (09/14/20 07:00 AM)
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Anonymous #2
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#26934627 - 09/14/20 07:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The riots must be working because I’m much less racist now! Actually, I don’t have any problems with black people. White liberal millennials on the other hand...I just want to oppress them out of existence.
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Anonymous #3
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #2]
#26934633 - 09/14/20 07:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Racial tension is energy that is not discharged, like a thunderstorm before the rain and thunder.
Racial tension must discharge by TALKING IT OUT LIKE ADULTS.
Then you find common ground and can hug it out as men.
LET IT RAIN AND THUNDER!
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#26934636 - 09/14/20 07:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're definitely right about it. But also the heart of the issue is probably that one side has been systematically put down for a very very long time. This is also why media covers mostly one side of it, because wte a black dude does doesn't come close to what the whole/system has been doing for generations to millions of blacks. I guess many of the blacks don't see things getting any better and thus dont give a fuck anymore.
It sucks that it is as it is, but know that once the state/government apparatus/system is equal to everyone no matter the race y'all still have loads of issues to work through. Why do you have children shooting up schools, why do you have some of the biggest companies in the world but still bad wages, why do you have such weird media, why dont you have universal healthcare. Like its 2020 people and you are still slaves to corporations. People are not happy, instead of blaming the people in power, those responsible for your actual issues: the focus is on other people with no actual power. Just hate that breeds more hate while others are making money off all of yall.
PS! using the term black as Im European and dont really know what the politically correct term is in the US, so dont read too much into it if its not an acceptable term there.
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
#26934690 - 09/14/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think racism is a biological mechanism. Species are known to largely stick to their kind, at least social animals. When you present yourself as a person of another colour it can trigger a kind of tribalism.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5]
#26935139 - 09/14/20 12:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous #5 said: I think racism is a biological mechanism. Species are known to largely stick to their kind, at least social animals. When you present yourself as a person of another colour it can trigger a kind of tribalism.
Have you even been to school? You know that all people are the same species right?
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Anonymous #5
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
#26935155 - 09/14/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you know what a subspecies is? Mr. Tough School Guy. You are clearly the one who does not understand. If I hold a knife and smile at you for long enough are you going to question why I'm doing such a thing? Or no because you're so evolved that instincts are just things you leave outside the classroom?
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Anonymous #6
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5]
#26935176 - 09/14/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous #5 said: it can trigger a kind of tribalism.
So can wearing a different colour, or speaking a different language, or supporting a different football team.
It's a shit analogy.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #5] 1
#26935260 - 09/14/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #5 said: Do you know what a subspecies is? Mr. Tough School Guy. You are clearly the one who does not understand. If I hold a knife and smile at you for long enough are you going to question why I'm doing such a thing? Or no because you're so evolved that instincts are just things you leave outside the classroom?
Jesus, you know that we are all subspecies Homo sapiens sapiens right? Like your Taiwanese neighbor is not Homo sapiens sapiens asianians. The other subspecies of Homo sapiens is Homo sapiens idaltu and they are not alive anymore.
Please just keep to subjects you already know. Im not American, I don't buy conspiracy theories and made up science from forum debates Here in europe we discuss things based on facts not on whats hot from your local backwater church or 4chan threads with Qanon theories. Op made a very clear discussion about racial tensions not made up subspecies in your imaginary world. Keep to topic or start another thread for like minded individuals.
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
#26935599 - 09/14/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I judge people on how they act. How I see them act. It rarely misleads me.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #6]
#26935785 - 09/14/20 07:11 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anonymous #6 said:
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Anonymous #5 said: it can trigger a kind of tribalism.
So can wearing a different colour, or speaking a different language, or supporting a different football team.
It's a shit analogy.
That's all very true, but it's obviously not to the same degree. Racial tribalism is alive and well in all humans, some are just better at managing that tribalism through experience and intellect.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
#26935791 - 09/14/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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To answer the OP question, diversity of races in the same environment usually leads to racial tension. It's even worse when there's racial oppression involved, which is usually the case.
As we can see today, the historic oppression of certain races still leads to racial tensions. So there is no solution because we can't erase the past and trying to fix history by attacking the ancestors of those people isn't a good idea for obvious reasons. The US and race relations is just a big mess that's never going away. Calling white people racist for just existing isn't going to work and the inevitable backlash then comes as a big surprise.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
#26936038 - 09/14/20 10:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It just seems to me like both sides are just digging in deeper at this point.
Some of the most racist people ive ever known are either cops or work in the penal system.
Earlier today there was footage on TV of a knife wielding man running at a cop before being shot dead.
Happened somewhere in Pennsylvania
Yet now there are protests because of it.
I firmly believe brandishing a knife at someone is a death threat, and should be greeted with a firm and probably violent response.
Edited by Anonymous (09/14/20 10:10 PM)
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Anonymous #7
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#26936226 - 09/15/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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News is dumping a lot of the gas on this shit and believe there are people whose best interest is to have us all fighting each other. As much shit as the US gets it has been a significant factor in a lot of bad people not getting their way.
You’re in control of you. Social media and the news are brain cancer. Be good, or don’t, whatever you choose.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #7]
#26936257 - 09/15/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If you choose to not be informed, you are choosing to be ignorant.
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Anonymous #9
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#26936314 - 09/15/20 03:01 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct
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Anonymous #9
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#26936316 - 09/15/20 03:09 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Diversity is strength, you bigot!
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #9]
#26936472 - 09/15/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #9 said: There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct
Dude, just because something is a social construct doesn't mean its effects are not real. The very fact that something is constructed for a social context means it very much has an effect on that social context. Language is a social construct and the fact that we are using it this very moment to communicate means its very real! And if I would use language to tell you something very negative about yourself, then the effect of language is very real. Meaning you would feel something, probably something negative.
People who develop these ideas (like social construct) in sociology and other social sciences understand this. If you are gonna use a term, try at least to understand what it actually means.
Also you should know that even though racism is ugly, dirty and something that speaks to our most sadistic impulses doesn't mean that races are not real. There is very much a very slight difference to our DNA which helps scientist for example know where your ancestors used to live. But it doesn't mean that there is a cognitive differences between us. In other words, being black doesnt mean you are smarter than being white, or the other way around. However, through systemic oppression such as the one conducted in the US against blacks and other minorities it may definitely lead to differences in behaviour. Having access to acceptable standards of living have a uge impact on groups and individuals. Neuroplasticity is very very very real. Give a person access to bad schools, few resources, hate, no access to good credit, low paying jobs, low nutrition etc will definitely lead to them having a bad impact on society in turn.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #4]
#26936703 - 09/15/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #4 said:
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Anonymous #9 said: There's no such thing as racism, race doesn't exist, race is a social construct
Dude, just because something is a social construct doesn't mean its effects are not real. The very fact that something is constructed for a social context means it very much has an effect on that social context. Language is a social construct and the fact that we are using it this very moment to communicate means its very real! And if I would use language to tell you something very negative about yourself, then the effect of language is very real. Meaning you would feel something, probably something negative.
People who develop these ideas (like social construct) in sociology and other social sciences understand this. If you are gonna use a term, try at least to understand what it actually means.
Also you should know that even though racism is ugly, dirty and something that speaks to our most sadistic impulses doesn't mean that races are not real. There is very much a very slight difference to our DNA which helps scientist for example know where your ancestors used to live. But it doesn't mean that there is a cognitive differences between us. In other words, being black doesnt mean you are smarter than being white, or the other way around. However, through systemic oppression such as the one conducted in the US against blacks and other minorities it may definitely lead to differences in behaviour. Having access to acceptable standards of living have a uge impact on groups and individuals. Neuroplasticity is very very very real. Give a person access to bad schools, few resources, hate, no access to good credit, low paying jobs, low nutrition etc will definitely lead to them having a bad impact on society in turn.
At the same time, you can't rule out the potential for cognitive differences, especially since the test results keep on coming up with the same findings. Now people can keep up using the same rationalizations for those results, but you can't rule out genetic differences. Just saying it appears there's only slight genetic differences between the races doesn't mean that small differences doesn't produce different cognitive results.
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Anonymous #4
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Re: Does racial tension perpetuate racism? [Re: Anonymous #8]
#26936803 - 09/15/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anonymous #8 said:
At the same time, you can't rule out the potential for cognitive differences, especially since the test results keep on coming up with the same findings. Now people can keep up using the same rationalizations for those results, but you can't rule out genetic differences. Just saying it appears there's only slight genetic differences between the races doesn't mean that small differences doesn't produce different cognitive results.
I thought about that too, but even if there were differences their impact would only be felt if the entire world was equal. Once everyone gets access to the same level of nutrition, resources education, etc. Then you would feel the nuances. As it is for the foreseeable future it doesnt matter one bit. And with advances in genetic modifications Im pretty sure that even when the world is nearing being very equal (if that happens) then the rich will be able to make more use of gene editing to get ahead, so race will still not matter.
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