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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead] 1
#26935997 - 09/14/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeetusdeetus said: Punishment never happens or violent crime?
Neither would exist.
Your confusing freedom with Utopia. In a totally free society, I am free to gain military might and conquer. In a Utopia, that mere thought is anathema and wouldn't even exist.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Ice9]
#26936011 - 09/14/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not confusing it. They are synonymous. Please stop equating freedom as oppression. You're robbing us of our destiny by perpetuating that propaganda.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936020 - 09/14/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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So you're using semantics and sophistry to mean total freedom in a metaphysical sense, where you can act without repercussion but importantly it has no effect on any other being.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Ice9]
#26936022 - 09/14/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: So you're using semantics and sophistry to mean total freedom in a metaphysical sense, where you can act without repercussion but importantly it has no effect on any other being.
So something that doesn't exist then.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: poofdargon]
#26936028 - 09/14/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Freedom will encompass all dimensions. No one can run. No one can hide. We will be free one day despite the dissenters.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936031 - 09/14/20 10:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Closest you're going to find to true freedom is probably in international waters. But watch out for pirates.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: psi]
#26936043 - 09/14/20 10:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah space.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936044 - 09/14/20 10:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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freedom to live your life how you want to
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936046 - 09/14/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A place where I can't breath without a suit, can't move without external propulsion, and limited by food and supplies.
Freedom.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: poofdargon] 1
#26936048 - 09/14/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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poofdargon said: A place where I can't breath without a suit, can't move without external propulsion, and limited by food and supplies.
Freedom.
We're in space right now actually, and can do all those things.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: poofdargon]
#26936052 - 09/14/20 10:16 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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poofdargon said: A place where I can't breath without a suit, can't move without external propulsion, and limited by food and supplies.
Freedom.
Nothing gets past you, huh?
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936079 - 09/14/20 10:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't know what more freedom western society misses exactly?
How are you oppressed shiithead? Without bitching about current emergency health directives what is it exactly that you want to do but can't?
You can go where you want, do what you want, say what you want, do whatever you want for work, fuck who you want, worship any god you choose and do whatever you want to your body. What's the problem? That drugs aren't legal? Is that it?
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Northerner]
#26936084 - 09/14/20 10:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those who believe themselves to be free, are. Believe and all your dreams will come true.
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Edited by poofdargon (09/14/20 10:50 PM)
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Northerner]
#26936098 - 09/14/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I don't know what more freedom western society misses exactly?
How are you oppressed shiithead? Without bitching about current emergency health directives what is it exactly that you want to do but can't?
You can go where you want, do what you want, say what you want, do whatever you want for work, fuck who you want, worship any god you choose and do whatever you want to your body. What's the problem? That drugs aren't legal? Is that it?
I may have those things but others dont. If one of us is oppressed, we all oppressed. Virtue isn't hereditary.
Furthermore, this thread was in response to a tea guzzling tyrant who was trying to convince you guys freedom isn't real. I'm the opposition. I've learned a lot though. I had no idea how many pansies and tyrants we had on the boards. I guess that's what is cool now.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936122 - 09/14/20 11:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I don't know what more freedom western society misses exactly?
How are you oppressed shiithead? Without bitching about current emergency health directives what is it exactly that you want to do but can't?
You can go where you want, do what you want, say what you want, do whatever you want for work, fuck who you want, worship any god you choose and do whatever you want to your body. What's the problem? That drugs aren't legal? Is that it?
I may have those things but others dont. If one of us is oppressed, we all oppressed. Virtue isn't hereditary.
Furthermore, this thread was in response to a tea guzzling tyrant who was trying to convince you guys freedom isn't real. I'm the opposition. I've learned a lot though. I had no idea how many pansies and tyrants we had on the boards. I guess that's what is cool now.
TIL shithead is a shithead. Stupid me for not realizing it.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Ice9]
#26936137 - 09/14/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Ice9]
#26936150 - 09/14/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's ok, I didn't know either.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936188 - 09/15/20 12:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Northerner said: I don't know what more freedom western society misses exactly?
How are you oppressed shiithead? Without bitching about current emergency health directives what is it exactly that you want to do but can't?
You can go where you want, do what you want, say what you want, do whatever you want for work, fuck who you want, worship any god you choose and do whatever you want to your body. What's the problem? That drugs aren't legal? Is that it?
I may have those things but others dont. If one of us is oppressed, we all oppressed. Virtue isn't hereditary.
Furthermore, this thread was in response to a tea guzzling tyrant who was trying to convince you guys freedom isn't real. I'm the opposition. I've learned a lot though. I had no idea how many pansies and tyrants we had on the boards. I guess that's what is cool now.
I don't understand man. Maybe I need more drugs, maybe less. I dunno.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Northerner]
#26936201 - 09/15/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Idk brother. I was driven by pain until I broke through. Now Im driven by pleasure. Unless you've experienced your freedoms being raped, you can only sympathize or criticize I suppose.
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Re: Total freedom or total security? [Re: Shiithead]
#26936207 - 09/15/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for trying to understand though. That's more than most do in any topic of debate.
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Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Psalm 12:6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
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