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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26927186 - 09/09/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I like your take on it, it's a bit of insurance for novices like myself. I cased with 50/50+ a few days back, the mycelium is starting to break through and I have been patching with more pasturized casing. After casing typically how long will it be before knots form? Will you see the knots with a casing on or will they be hidden and just see the pins as they erupt through? Thank you in advance!
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It depends but maz is usually pretty quick. Normally you’ll be able to see the knots still but it depends how thick the casing is and how colonized it got.
I’d guess you’ll have knots anytime now. Sometimes if you can see the sub through the side of the tub you can see knots forming there easier than on the surface.
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26928823 - 09/10/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The mycelium is chewing through the casing fast, I have to patch it daily. I wake up today and it needs another patching. They were cased and put into fruiting 4 days ago (light, 68-72 F temps) Airflow, fanning/misting. Still very fluffy mycelium. Typically it takes a bit over 7 days of fruiting conditions for knots to form, correct?
Here is what they look like today, camera struggles to capture the very fine strands, looking like heads of cauliflower munching through the casing:


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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26929131 - 09/10/20 10:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's the set up at current:

Blue LED, 70F plus a fan running, I open the lid on each tub mist it and let the fan run over it for 10 min, once a day.
Edited by mescalinechemist (09/11/20 02:36 AM)
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26930946 - 09/11/20 10:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Update: I performed the final patching on my tubs today. It has been 5 days since casing, I have been giving them very ample air exchange (fanning/misting) 2x per day and bright 6500 K light plus additional blue LED coverage (RR notes suggest flooding the casing in light is beneficial). I have started to notice the fluffy mycelium is beginning to clump up, perhaps forming pins, it is difficult to get a good photo though. I hope I will have more solid evidence of this over the coming days.
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Update the next day: the substrate is eating up the patched casing fast, this is a 50/50+ casing , in other trays the casing is even more consumed.

What is going on. The temps are cooler, they now get 2x misting and fanning and plenty of FAE, plenty of light.
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I would stop casing it. It could just be registering the casing as more sub and so it’s never fully colonized to start fruiting.
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26933339 - 09/13/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The pics in my sig were about 1:5.
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: skullhuman]
#26933616 - 09/13/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Beauty skullhuman 
did you you find less yield on subsequent flushes vs a lower ratio (ie. 1:2-1:4)?? or was it generally the same?
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: maxmush]
#26933661 - 09/13/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The yields were as good as any I've seen- about 13oz dry all together from each mono. I used different spawn ratios on different tubs of that culture and the results were always consistent: around 7oz first flush, then less from subsequent flushes, finishing up around 13 all together. I don't feel the spawn ratio impacted yield at all.
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: A.k.a]
#26933774 - 09/13/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: I would stop casing it. It could just be registering the casing as more sub and so it’s never fully colonized to start fruiting.
I am starting to believe that, it just keeps eating the casing!
I'm just gonna leave them. Keep FAE up, keep the surface glistening with moisture beads, keep them lit. Thank you guys for the help.
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mescalinechemist good luck. im following.
skullman, thanks. Helpful
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: maxmush]
#26933865 - 09/13/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I need it! First time growing. Hopefully this week will be exciting, this is the beginning of week 3 post spawning to bulk and 1 week after casing (well, the casings got eaten up so I won't call it casing lol).
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Quote:
mescalinechemist said: A further 20 hours later:

A close up:


Any of you know what phase this is. What are those fluffy mycelial structures?
Kinda looks similar to one of my tubs, very curious how this turns out. I'm on my first grow as well and quite confused about this whole primordia process, especially with things like 'overlay' being thrown about.
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: sbulking]
#26936065 - 09/14/20 10:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am now intending this to serve as my grow log, perhaps to help other new growers. They can look at the dates and get a feeling for approximate timelines. I found other such threads useful. Now today I am starting to see what is unambiguously some knotting. I will photograph them in a few days when they are clear (Camera is not good enough to catch them yet). Lets hope we get more knots over the coming days and these form pins. Will keep this updated.
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Update. Out of all my tubs, the first one spawned (3 days prior to spawning the others) has started throwing out pins. This is my experimental tub, as a first time grower I spawned 1 quart into this small tub and examined/messed with it to distract me from the other tubs. I removed it from the liner to examine it and am now getting plenty of side pins and knotting. I notice that most of these side pins are coming from the edge where the casing layer meets the bulk substrate layer. I am noticing one pin erupting through the surface on the top, presumably coming from that casing layer/bulk interface even though the entire casing is fully colonized. I hope to have an update within a few days from the other tubs showing pinning!
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Update:
First of the large 1:5 tubs is beginning to pin, bursting through the upper layer of mycelium. Only 2 pins though, is this normal for this early stage? I think the pins are coming from the casing/substrate interface.

Edited by mescalinechemist (09/17/20 03:53 AM)
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Is it normal to have so few pins??
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Re: 1:5 spawn to substrate working well. [Re: sbulking] 1
#26940088 - 09/17/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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No Idea, I wonder if anyone else has ideas. I am hoping these are just the very first pins and the rest of the pinset will come in over the coming 5 days.
Is this a reasonable assumption in your guy's experience?
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Keep us updated mescalinechemist
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