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Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters...
#26933678 - 09/13/20 03:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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On a whim last time I picked up some spores I got some LC for some Blue Oysters to try my hand at gourmets. I had an extra grain jar when I knocked up my last batch of cubes, so I shot about half the LC I from a syringe into it and lo and behold the culture took to it like wildfire, it's a gorgeous white fluffy mass, literally than anything I've ever gotten with cube spores. So I broke up that grain, spawned it to bulk in a shoebox with 100% coir and it colonized the entire block in less than a week. I just followed all of the same steps one would follow using a cube-colonized grain bag, expecting that the process would be more or less the same.
However now it's just... still colonizing, I swear to god it's climbed so far up the tub's walls it's nearly touching the lid. I've never had this problem before with cubes (usually my cubes start to fruit long before they're at 100% colonization) so I have no idea how to proceed. When I look up guides on how to grow oysters they all say to do the thing with a bucket of aspen woodchips with holes drilled in the sides? Could I just take my colonized coir brick and break it up and put it into one of those buckets? Should I have drilled holes in the sides of my shoebox? I'm at a loss here, please any insight or direction would help, maybe I just suck at using the search function but I can't seem to find a thread about this problem with blue oysters rather all of the threads I find with the problem have to do with cubes.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... [Re: ripzipzap]
#26933690 - 09/13/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should try asking in the gourmet and medicinal forum. They may have some ideas for you there. I don't have experience with blue oyster. I have grown kings, but those are much different.
From what I understand, the only gourmets that can be grown in tubs just like cubes are reishi and king oyster. King oyster requires cooler temps, however.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: ripzipzap]
#26933692 - 09/13/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: Better fit here
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26933792 - 09/13/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oysters in general won't work in a shoebox,much less on straight coir, not enough nutrients or fresh air!!
I've fruited reishi in the same way and the results were minimal, especially when compared to a supplemented bag.
As far as breaking it up into a bucket of woodchips, it could still work if done properly, might be better off doing a little more research, that way all your work and $ wouldn't be wasted. Blues take a lil extra attention vs some of the other oyster varieties.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Harry Manbach]
#26933825 - 09/13/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah coir isn't really for wood lovers, since it's not wood. I'd probably go with the breaking it up idea, spawn it to some hardwood fuel pellets in a bucket or something.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Harry Manbach]
#26933829 - 09/13/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Every oyster species can fruit upwards in tubs no problem, but you won't get nice clusters like side fruiting a block or using a bucket. The bucket tek is a fun side project but if you're spawning to bulk I find it easier to just fruit from the block. Anyway, your issue is either temp or FAE. I'm assuming your RH is good since that should be a no brainer. My experience with Blues is telling me that you have the tub/shoebox at incubation temps still? 70-75? King and Blue myc will just keep consolidating until you move your container to a much colder room. They like it chilly, 50-60 and TONS of fresh air once you get pins. Cannot emphasize enough the need for FAE with any oysters.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: sendmehummus]
#26933854 - 09/13/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Temps a bit too high won't stop blue oysters from fruiting, neither will lack of FAE, so I wouldn't be too sure about that.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Forrester]
#26934015 - 09/13/20 06:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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But lack of FAE will give you all stipe and no caps or little caps. The caps are what you want with oysters. So, avoid the lack of FAE. You will definitely want to get it out of the shoebox and put it into bags with a filter patch or buckets. I would do the bags. Bags are much easier in my opinion.
Here is where to buy your bags if you decide to go that route. You want the 14A bags. https://myersmushrooms.com/shop
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Forrester]
#26934095 - 09/13/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Really? I can only speak from my own experience of course, but I had the exact same issue with Kings a few months ago, they just wouldn't budge past colonization. Then I moved them to the basement (15 degree temp change) and got fruiting within two weeks. Oh well good luck with your Blues my friend! Hope they can be saved!
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: sendmehummus]
#26934368 - 09/13/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Which ones I can grow with oysters at 60°F? 15°C? I think shitake, lion's mane, grey's and yellow's will be okay, right?
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: Bsdgaou]
#26934375 - 09/13/20 11:31 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, those should be fine. Just go to https://www.mycelia.be/en to check growing parameters. Or for example type in mycelia yellow oyster and you will get a link to check the parameters of the yellow oyster
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: sendmehummus]
#26934420 - 09/14/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
sendmehummus said: Really? I can only speak from my own experience of course, but I had the exact same issue with Kings a few months ago, they just wouldn't budge past colonization. Then I moved them to the basement (15 degree temp change) and got fruiting within two weeks. Oh well good luck with your Blues my friend! Hope they can be saved!
With kings this is true, as you have seen. It's not that way with blues.
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Re: Need some insight regarding Blue Oysters... (moved) [Re: SHROOMSISAY01]
#26934693 - 09/14/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
SHROOMSISAY01 said:
 I would do the bags. Bags are much easier in my opinion.
Here is where to buy your bags if you decide to go that route. You want the 14A bags. https://myersmushrooms.com/shop
How would I use these bags? Do I need to poke holes in them? Should be bag be tight against the surface of the coir or should the bag just be tented over the brick?
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