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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Ganja420Boy]
    #26932477 - 09/12/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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And it will also stop working on you and that's talking the experience here.

When I was younger right around 20 or so years ago I had so many of these fuckers and my mental state at the time was a wreck but they were helping me but the more I took the worse it got, manic depression and shit and then all the magic was gone. So I took a break 1 week, no effect well that shit turned into fucking years and to this day I don't think my tolerance has ever reached baseline.

But I'm about to find out here real soon because I'm finally breaking out the longest ever break 10+ years.

What changed my whole life was 2C-E but I'm damn sure that would not be the case if I treated like I did this beautiful fungus we have amongst us.

Respect it please...




Mental state makes a huge difference in what happens.  If you bang on a weak wall repeatedly it'll eventually break.

I had a 10 year break once.  Walked away from what I was growing at the time entirely.  Sorted some things out.  When I went back to it it was better than ever.  Hope that happens for you. :yinyang2:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: chemically changed]
    #26932696 - 09/12/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I consume a lot of cannabis, but I could never take mushrooms more than once or twice a year in the 4g+ dose range. I'd imagine your tolerance gets shot a bit and the effects have less and less of a return, just like anything. This is probably the least fun compound to experience diminishing returns with given how awesome it can be.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Loaded Shaman] * 1
    #26932873 - 09/13/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Man don’t spend too long in shroom-land and or you might lose your footing on flat ground. Micro-dosing might be ok but this is a dose that would be a solid trip daily.

Remember that psilocybin is basically a turbo-charged serotonin so chronic exposure might mess with your own neurotransmitters. Practice moderation my friend.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: GandalfSon]
    #26932951 - 09/13/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

i never understood why its so safe to take zoloft/prozac for years and people kill them self on these SSRI but so hard to accept a alternative as psilocybin SSRI made by nature. i never heard someone got killed taking cannabis over and over and over again but i have read and and you can read it too people die from overdose of pharama SSRI, micro dose of shrooms does not take you to mushroom land neither you trip but it do this amazing stuff, which zoloft/prozac can not do. trip once in a while good for emotions, deep understanding of truths but micro dose will never make you trip, depends on how your mind and body reacts to dose. there are many people like me who took pharma SSRI and after trying shrooms for longer period of time found that sweet spot of micro dose to live on with out ever buying pharam SSRI.


"He points to studies showing the most popular antidepressants — selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) like Prozac and Zoloft — only work for a quarter to a third of the people who take them, based on whether they have the right hormone receptors in their brain attuned to traditional SSRIs. By contrast, clinical trials observed by therapist Rosalind Watts at Imperial College in London suggest a single dose of psilocybin can be long-lasting to life-changing."
https://www.wpr.org/psychedelic-therapy-medicine-future

it works only for quarter of people ask to any honest doctor and they keep prescribing these pills because they have no choice in matter all the research done by "john hopkins psychedelic research" points out something if shrooms are legalize pharma will be out of business from pain killers to SSRI thats more than 100+ medicine and no one will buy it. its the same scam they did with cannabis.

criminalize shrooms make it class A drug because it might give insights to user, it might change its thinking and cure depression, ocd, agression etc it might make him a new person.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: GandalfSon]
    #26933055 - 09/13/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Legality of mushrooms will in the end occur, but until then legality will make little difference to people who seek them out for the benefits.  In the meantime there are IPOs based on improved delivery methods for psilocin/psilocybin from drug delivery companies who quite obviously see a serious market developing for their product.  The market will adapt as it always does to what sells the best.  There's also development of genetically engineered yeast and bacteria to crank out mass quantities of psilocybin (along with a few biologically valuable related compounds) - these are things that can be patented and monetized even though the drugs themselves can not.

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Remember that psilocybin is basically a turbo-charged serotonin so chronic exposure might mess with your own neurotransmitters. Practice moderation my friend.




It actually has more wide-ranging effects than that in the brain, but from personal experience in tripping daily (at about 5x normal doses after a week or so), the only downside was some blunted affect when stopping - which was both not a problem and FAR easier to deal with than either alcohol side effects or cannabis withdrawal.  By the time tolerance ebbs everything went back to normal (except for an afterglow that lasted for weeks) - but hey, I was tripping solid every day before that with no problems.  Talk about the best drugs, shrooms are all that. :awesomenod:

Obviously don't try this if you have mental issues as it will indeed fuck you up.  Don't go for crazy doses if you don't have tolerance built up.  YMMV.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26933268 - 09/13/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

:cool:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26936206 - 09/15/20 12:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:aweyeah: "I was tripping solid every day before that with no problems.  Talk about the best drugs, shrooms are all that."  :snoopyes:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa]
    #26936872 - 09/15/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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minus the magic, mushrooms are great pain killer and better SSRI than zoloft, prozac, if you been on SSRI you get a buzz, high or the fucked up feeling of being dizzy and cluster head pain from meds. but mushrooms do not do that, over
longer period of time it gets better, and like primalsoup said nothing like that happen, even if you take higher dosage.
i take 2g every day for two reasons one pain(i got four slip discs and codeine does not work anymore immune to pain killers) and two it keeps depression, ocd in control and i can work around like a human and not a zombie of zoloft. mushrooms gave me tools what meds and psychologist sessions combine could not give me in 15 years. chronic pain and crippling depression is a bitch that needs to be address every day or you fell back to old ways so i keep taking like medicine. 




What specie and strain do you use?


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa] * 1
    #26937321 - 09/15/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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i do not go beyond 2g i start to trip and combodian is one hell of pain killer.




He said Cambodian, that's a cubensis strain. :themoreyouknow:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26937621 - 09/15/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Why's that?



Well I know they say there's no such thing as a stupid question, but....







The really crazy thing I just realized though is that the OP registered in 2012 and has only made 32 posts. Thats 4 posts per year for 8 years! I was averaging 4 a day for a while. I can only hope the rest of his posts are as high in quality as this one here.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: drr]
    #26937722 - 09/15/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I totally missed that part. :laugh2:


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: Gwindor]
    #26938237 - 09/16/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Cambodian, its my avatar too. two things about this strain. its a cube never go beyond 8g you will be trying to hold on to thought but will keep sinking in to void and its good:aweyeah:

and two it has a body high where you feel like got hit by tranquilizer and what ever dose work for you 0.5g, 1g, 1.8g, 2g in 30 to 40 minutes it will make you feel how slowly pain receptors are shutting down and 30 minutes latter it will make you feel how much energy you have and it goes philosophical on ocd to the point you can listen to songs without getting stuck in your head and no after effects and it will not make you run away from depression, what ever is making you sad in back ground of your mind sooner or later it will bring in front of you(no matter how much you fight) it will bring in front of you to confront and have closure
:solidnod:

the figures are base on leaving zoloft/prozac/lithium for over years now but you can trip balls at 3g after one year out SSRI of zoloft/prozac


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa]
    #26945494 - 09/20/20 04:11 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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minus the magic, mushrooms are great pain killer and better SSRI than zoloft, prozac, if you been on SSRI you get a buzz, high or the fucked up feeling of being dizzy and cluster head pain from meds. but mushrooms do not do that, over
longer period of time it gets better, and like primalsoup said nothing like that happen, even if you take higher dosage.
i take 2g every day for two reasons one pain(i got four slip discs and codeine does not work anymore immune to pain killers) and two it keeps depression, ocd in control and i can work around like a human and not a zombie of zoloft. mushrooms gave me tools what meds and psychologist sessions combine could not give me in 15 years. chronic pain and crippling depression is a bitch that needs to be address every day or you fell back to old ways so i keep taking like medicine. 




Really glad you found something that works for you. Commendable.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: pesa]
    #26945727 - 09/20/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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meds will fuck up your tolerance level, the first time very first time i took shroom was dry 30g, 3g no effect 8 g no effect and i kept going till i found myself in clouds




From my experience on escitalopram, my tolerance is baseline. 1-3.0g in a tea is enough for a moderate or strong experience with full on CEV and OEV (spatial distortions, color shifts, moving grains, occasional floating visuals).


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: shroomcrab]
    #26945778 - 09/20/20 09:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I also wondered about this question during the summer after a good trip and plenty of mushrooms to eat.
Glad to see somebody has tested the waters! I was also thinking that if there is a medical effect from a certain dose, repeating that dose all the time, even with tolerance building makes sense.

I have only tried microdosing frequently. Now I am thinking I will make a microdosing regimen of 0.15g every morning. 0.22g was a bit much, too noticeable. Very stimulating. That effect lasted about 2 hours.
The restlessness and increased anxiety that lasts an hour feels a bit uncomfortable, but maybe it will subside.
Hey, at least I don't need any caffeine in the morning with that effect going on.
I recognize a noticeable increase in drive and self-esteem, mood, creativeness.
Let's see how long it lasts daily.


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Re: people taking 4g everyday for months [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26947514 - 09/21/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Your tolerance would be so shot taken 4gs every day hell tripping two days in a row on is hard enough lol but every day no way.


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