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Mushroom gummys concentrated?
#26924599 - 09/08/20 12:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey all, I'm about to try my hand at making regular strength gummy bears following one of the teks on these forums. But for my next batch I was going to try reducing the shroom water to half the volume of the original regular recipe.
So 28 dried grams for 2 cups of water, if I were to reduce this to one cup or less would it have the right consistency to set properly? Has anyone tried making gummys candy by concentrating and reducing the shroom water.... So you boil say 56 grams with 4 cups water and reduce that water to one cup then use the one cup in a gummy bear recipe?
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26924735 - 09/08/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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28/8 is 3.5g per bear. I have made quarter gummies before and they turned out fine, thats 56/8. My gummies are 1oz liquid, I think many of the molds you get list the volume, thats all you really need to know.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26924854 - 09/08/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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What do you mean by 28/8 and 56/8? I appreciate your input, I just finished the first batch 33g with 2 cups water 8 tbs geletine 12 tbs honey and 1&1/3 cups lemon juice there chilling in the fridge now.
I don't know the volume of gummy mix I made, and used two different sized molds for the gummy mix so half of them are slightly larger. I could weigh them to figure out the doses?
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26924942 - 09/08/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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56g(mushrooms)÷8(fl oz concentrate liquid)= 7g(mushrooms) per gummie. Just replace the numbers for any other amount you want. And its not based off weight of the gummies its based off the weight of the mush you added to the h20, so you need to know your volume of liquid. You can reduce it pretty much as much as you want, but be careful you can make them really strong.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26926191 - 09/09/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for confirming I will record the volumes on the next batch. I used 33g in the recipe and the total weight of the (refrigerated) gummy mix is 730 grams. Theres enough for 8 doses and worked out that's 91.25g gummy bear per dose (4.1g of shrooms)
Hope I haven't messed up the maths but I just divide all the gummy and split into 8 piles right?
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26926201 - 09/09/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kmacmo said: I just divide all the gummy and split into 8 piles right?
Weigh them out after your calculations. It's just as important to weigh your edibles as your dried mush.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26926204 - 09/09/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its grams of mushrooms divided by volume of concentrate liquid. So 33g/16floz=2.065g mushrooms per floz, if you do it again you should really keep track of the total volume of concentrate liquid. The main reason I do one cup of concentrate is because its completely divisible by 8(aka an eighth), so an oz divides evenly and they don't get to weak or two strong.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26926306 - 09/09/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I boiled the shrooms in 2 cups water for 15 mins - strained mushroom powder through sock put that liquid aside in a bowl then boiled the shroom mush with about another 2 cups water and repeated the first step. It ended up being short of 2 cups so I added water to top up to 2 cups mushroom liquid with the matter strained out. Then brought that to heat cause the recipe requires boiled water for the gummys.
So I know I had 2 cups of mushroom liquid in the recipe just don't know the overall volume of the gummy I only know the weight ha I think I'll just divide it by 8 and then there's 8 doses :P
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26926354 - 09/09/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The weight of the gummy is 100% completely irrelevant, you are measuring volume. So two cups is 16floz, divide that by the total grams of mushrooms. Its a learning process. As I said before I have put 3.5g-7g mushrooms per oz of liquid so I could literally double the amount of actives in the same weight gummy. And for real get a silicone mold to pour them into, make sure its a volume you know. I got this one from Amazon. Ps you can use straight jello, which I found works better than using gelatin, thats what jello is except jello has flavoring added.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26926416 - 09/09/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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So my 2 cups of mushroom liquid has 33g mushrooms wich is 33÷16=2.06g per fluid oz. But with the recipe I added 1&1/3rd cups lemon juice + 12 tbs of honey making the total volume of jelly produced at 4 cups roughly making the total volume (32fl oz) at 1.03g mushrooms per fluid oz correct or no?
Really appreciate the help
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26926424 - 09/09/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes that sounds about correct. Gummies are a really great way to eat them. Mainly cuz dried cubes taste like shit, imo. Honestly I wouldn't add the lemon juice next time, thats alot you added in there. I bet they are pretty bitter, cool if thats what you like, but its unnecessary and just reduces your overall concentration.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26927052 - 09/09/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Kmacmo said: I just divide all the gummy and split into 8 piles right?
Weigh them out after your calculations. It's just as important to weigh your edibles as your dried mush. 
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MH5109 said: The weight of the gummy is 100% completely irrelevant, you are measuring volume.
...yeah, but...
Once you figure out how much mush was extracted into the volume of the water, that volume of water (gummies in this case) will also have a weight. Sooo, if I got an ounce of mush extracted into 250 grams of gelatin mixture, once cooled you would weigh the finished product to dose it correctly. For instance one ounce of mush turned into 250 grams of gummies, would mean you would need 31.25 grams of gummies to get an eighth of an ounce.
So weight is not "100% completely irrelevant" after you've got X amount of finished gummies infused with X amount of mushrooms and you need to measure out accurate doses.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Funky Monkey] 1
#26927094 - 09/09/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok so then if I have 28g of mushrooms that I put into 8floz of h20. Each floz is going to contain 3.5g of actives. Then how come the weight doesn't double if I put 56g of mush into the same 8floz, making that same floz 7g. The answer is because you are not measuring water you are measuring the amount of mushrooms you concentrated in the water. Which is why I was saying it doesn't matter at all how much water weight you have cuz you are concerned about the volume, also why I specifically said make sure you know how much concentrate you have in volume, because thats how we measure most liquids because it makes sense. It would be a real pain to measure up doses on a scale when you could just take a floz. Also if you are weighing the doses, you have to figure out the weight of all the ingredients as well, really an inefficient and very imprecise way of figuring doses. Iv literally made hundreds if not thousands of them and the only weight I took was the mushrooms I put in the water.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26927131 - 09/09/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You could always just make however many gummies you end up having enough mix for and dividing that number into however many shrooms you used.
Like say you put an ounce of shrooms in and end up making 27 gummies before you run out. Then you know each one has just over a gram in it.
Or you end up with 10 gummies with 2.8g each.
I hate math and keeping track of all the weights or volumes so that’s how I’d do it.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: A.k.a]
#26927224 - 09/09/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you don't know the volume of h2o you are starting with, then you don't know how much jello to use to get the right ratio. Making your gummies either way to soft or way to hard, I have done both. Hard is better than soft, but it sucks to have to make an oz or two not right just because you decided to be lazy or stupid and not measure your concentrate volume.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26927271 - 09/09/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Funky Monkey]
#26929670 - 09/11/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That 'gummy' I made turned out to be jelly I used a jelly recipe thinking it was a gummy bear recipe lol. I ate 90grams of the jelly last night, it was very strong and came on very quickly but only lasted about 3 and a half hours but I'm not complaining it was great
Made 2nd batch of actual gummys today with 31g 2 cups reduced to half a cup got 190g of gummy sweets with 23.75g being a dose (3.8g shrooms) they smell incredible like raspberry.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26929820 - 09/11/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice, I typically use 9g jello to 1 cup of h20 and it makes them firm but not to firm. And after they get hard I take them out of their mold and let them dry out for a day. It will make them not stick together if you put them in a bag, also make sure if you do bag them leave the bag open or else you will have condensation and possible mold.
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: MH5109]
#26929927 - 09/11/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The recipe I used required 85g jello powder 1 tbs geletine + 1/2 cup water, the gummy is soft but firm like how I would expect a gummy to be. I want to try your recipe with just 9g Thanks for the tips really helpful 😁
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Re: Mushroom gummys concentrated? [Re: Kmacmo]
#26929934 - 09/11/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry 9tbs of jello. Not 9g. That would probably not get hard lol. And prepare just like jello.
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