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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] 1
#26929679 - 09/11/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow, you really just went from trying to insult me by implying I'm a pedo for what I've been saying, to asking "what's wrong with sexualizing kids as long as there's no victim?" Are you just trying to play some kind of mind games or what?
And no, my opinion is based on the scenes that were described by other people. Your opinion is based on what, a trailer and nothing else?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence] 1
#26929692 - 09/11/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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First, there is nothing morally wrong with a person being a pedophile. As long as no one is victimized, thoughts should be free. Conservatives love to prosecute thought crimes, but this is still America, and we are still free to think whatever we want.
Because of the above, there is nothing morally or ethically wrong with art that caters to pedophile thoughts as long as there is no victim. It isn't my taste, and I wouldn't buy it, but if someone wanted to paint little girls in sexual acts, the first amendment protects that. Similarly, as long as no one is harmed, taking photographs of a little girl in a way that caters to pedos is protected.
Why do you hate freedom so much?
If we were talking about child porn, there would be a victim. We're not talking about that. We're not even talking about a movie specifically intended to cater to pedos. That's clear from the trailer. I've seen many a T&A movie, and all of them are clearly advertised as such in the trailer. This trailer clearly advertises a drama about a mother and child trying to navigate the waters of the child dance industry and still protect the child.
Why do you hate freedom, dude?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] 1
#26929694 - 09/11/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Your whole post is just defending the right to be a pedophile.
How very attorney-ish of you.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence]
#26929698 - 09/11/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Again, I don't see a little girl's crotch as any more sexual than her elbow. Little girls are little girls. They aren't sex objects. I can go to any beach and see hundreds of little girls in bikinis. Never once have I thought, "wow, that's hot." I'm not sure why you'd find anything sexual in the girls in that movie.
They are sex objects to a lot of people. Why are you ok having a program that sexualizes little kids for those people to enjoy?
As long as there's no victim, why are you against that?
Because it sexualizes children
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Herbologist] 1
#26929699 - 09/11/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, people have a right to whatever twisted thoughts they might have.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26929701 - 09/11/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because it sexualizes children
To you, it does. To me, I get no sexual thoughts about children from it. Maybe someone has sexual thoughts from a JCPenny catalog showing children. Should that be banned, too?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] 3
#26929706 - 09/11/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil shouldn't talk because he only watched the trailer. But eminence read reviews and deleted netflix but his opinion is the best one here.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil] 1
#26929707 - 09/11/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yikes. I'll let some other people chime in on that one, curious if the others here that were on your side will agree with this. But just sayin, there are some states that have classes in school that teach that pedophilia is just another marginalized sexual orientation, dont think that can lead to victimization? Also, I'm assuming, from what you said, that all the people who've been censored or fired for their political beliefs were wronged then.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence] 1
#26929710 - 09/11/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Anyone who has been censored or fired for beliefs was wronged, yes. If they were censored or fired for statements of those beliefs, that's a different question.
If we're going to start prosecuting thoughts, I would start by prosecuting racists. Even that, however, I'm vehemently against. Thoughts should be free.
Why do you hate freedom so much?
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix *DELETED* [Re: Enlil]
#26929715 - 09/11/20 10:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence]
#26929718 - 09/11/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Of course. That's why I'm against prosecuting racists for being racists.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
#26929720 - 09/11/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, deleted my comment when I saw your edit.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence]
#26929724 - 09/11/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I just wanted to be clear.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
#26929734 - 09/11/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because it sexualizes children
To you, it does. To me, I get no sexual thoughts about children from it. Maybe someone has sexual thoughts from a JCPenny catalog showing children. Should that be banned, too?
To thousands of people it does. “Cancel Netflix” was trending on twitter yesterday because of this film. You endorse pedophilia and you’re ok with normalizing films that’s endorse it.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Billy Ray] 1
#26929739 - 09/11/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Way more than thousands, probably. I'm sure there are millions of pedos in the world. Banning something because pedos like it is irrational as fuck. That's like banning hamburgers because Hitler ate hamburgers.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence]
#26929741 - 09/11/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: Funny detail, the co-founder of the Sundance festival where the movie was awarded, is goin to prison for child sex abuse.
Did he have ANYTHING to do with making the movie? Sundance is a film festival to showcase independent film.
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Eminence said: Maybe listen to the people who have watched it before making a comment, like I at least did. All I heard was "it's way worse than it looks."
People like you rated the film without even watching it, so I wouldn't trust all the reviews:
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Eminence said: Wow, you really just went from trying to insult me by implying I'm a pedo for what I've been saying, to asking "what's wrong with sexualizing kids as long as there's no victim?"
He didn't say "what's wrong with sexualizing kids" (though you put it in quotes). But he did say "As long as no one is victimized, thoughts should be free" and I agree with Enlil 100%.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Eminence] 1
#26929743 - 09/11/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Eminence said: What kind of weird trick are you trying to pull? I never implied dancing is inherently sexual. Obviously, the dancing in this movie was MADE to be sexual, that's the point of the movie right? Why are leftists always like this?
Dude stop obsessing about the sexuality of children. It’s weird.
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Re: "Cuties" brought to you by Netflix [Re: Enlil]
#26929752 - 09/11/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: I'm sure there are millions of pedos in the world. Banning something because pedos like it is irrational as fuck. That's like banning hamburgers because Manson ate hamburgers.
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I changed it to hitler to avoid the young ones thinking I might have meant Marilyn manson.
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Eminence said: I already said I didn't, I don't even have Netflix after hearing a few detailed reviews.
So then by your own logic we should ignore your opinion.
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Eminence said: Funny detail, the co-founder of the Sundance festival where the movie was awarded, is goin to prison for child sex abuse.
Did he have ANYTHING to do with making the movie? Sundance is a film festival to showcase independent film.
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Eminence said: Maybe listen to the people who have watched it before making a comment, like I at least did. All I heard was "it's way worse than it looks."
People like you rated the film without even watching it, so I wouldn't trust all the reviews:
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Eminence said: Went to the video to leave a thumbs down...
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Eminence said: Wow, you really just went from trying to insult me by implying I'm a pedo for what I've been saying, to asking "what's wrong with sexualizing kids as long as there's no victim?"
He didn't say "what's wrong with sexualizing kids" (though you put it in quotes). But he did say "As long as no one is victimized, thoughts should be free" and I agree with Enlil 100%.
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