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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26927971 - 09/10/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Acting weird has been the cause of deaths in this nation since before it was even a nation.  Every day, kids are beat up because they act weird.  Violence against people deemed outside of the norm is so common that we can probably hypothesize that there is a genetic/evolutionary force behind it.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26927974 - 09/10/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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As far as we can tell, it was allegedly counterfeit money. And I don't think that's why he was placed under arrest. If it was I think we would know by now if the money was counterfeit. I'm not sure why he was placed under arrest, but I'm thinking it was because he was acting too F'ing weird.



Acting weird is not justification for use of lethal force, in my opinion.




Let’s just shoot everybody that acts weird. That’ll solve all of our problems.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Enlil]
    #26927980 - 09/10/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Acting weird has been the cause of deaths in this nation since before it was even a nation.  Every day, kids are beat up because they act weird.  Violence against people deemed outside of the norm is so common that we can probably hypothesize that there is a genetic/evolutionary force behind it.



Not to mention, we lock up people who chronically "act weird" in buildings without adequate care where us "normal people" don't have to look at them or think about them. I'm speaking about the institutionalization of mentally ill people.

I'm not disagreeing with you: acting weird has been used as the justification for violence for a long, long time. I'm just saying that this is an injustice.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: qman]
    #26928004 - 09/10/20 10:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Actually in the video the cop clearly states that floyd was being arrested for forgery.




Which he never did, the cop was obviously searching for a charge since they escalated the whole thing.



Oh I agree it was an absolutely bullshit charge. I was just pointing out to brian
that they did cite a reason for his arrest, even if total bullshit.

Anybody can accidentally use a fake bill if you pay in cash frequently.
The forgery charge is such shit I'm surprised more people arent outraged by that alone.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26928010 - 09/10/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

He wasn't actually arrested on a forgery charge.  He was arrested (and killed) on suspicion of forgery.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Enlil]
    #26928034 - 09/10/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Nonagon Infinity] * 1
    #26928364 - 09/10/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Acting weird has been the cause of deaths in this nation since before it was even a nation.  Every day, kids are beat up because they act weird.  Violence against people deemed outside of the norm is so common that we can probably hypothesize that there is a genetic/evolutionary force behind it.



Not to mention, we lock up people who chronically "act weird" in buildings without adequate care where us "normal people" don't have to look at them or think about them. I'm speaking about the institutionalization of mentally ill people.

I'm not disagreeing with you: acting weird has been used as the justification for violence for a long, long time. I'm just saying that this is an injustice.




Of course it is. But look what happens when you act the opposite. If you act completely nonchalant you can walk 10 feet away from a cop with a lit joint in your hand. I once had a five minute conversation with a conservation officer about mushroom hunting. I was sitting inside my jeep, he was standing outside, and I had two five gallon buckets of marijuana clones in back. He saw the buckets and started asking me about mushrooms. I was able to act natural because it was May, and I had practiced this scenario in my head many times.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26928542 - 09/10/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm a terrorist. I'm an admin of the Shroomery, ask a staunch drug hating, booze guzzling, pharm popping far right conservative what he thinks of that.




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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Asante] * 1
    #26928963 - 09/10/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I dont get why white people arent rioting more. Little white kids get shot constantly by police and not one riot ober their kids being killed. You know why I dont like BLM? They're making it about race and thats whats going to divide the country.  It's all from a good place and I wont deny that it's slanted unfavorably toward people of color. But the police are out of control and it effects everyone and they sh


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26928988 - 09/10/20 08:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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I dont get why white people arent rioting more. Little white kids get shot constantly by police and not one riot ober their kids being killed. You know why I dont like BLM? They're making it about race and thats whats going to divide the country.  It's all from a good place and I wont deny that it's slanted unfavorably toward people of color. But the police are out of control and it effects everyone and they sh




That's why The Elite promote and endorse the racism narrative instead of the classism narrative. Many white people reject the BLM movement because it purposely excludes the law enforcement abuse of whites instead of non-whites.

The BLM movement actually suckers MANY white people into believing that law enforcement won't abuse them and they're better off than non-whites, obviously they learn the hard way when it lands on their doorstep.

Would it be a very smart strategy if BLM addressed and protested the scenarios when white people are on the receiving end of police abuse?  Yes, but that's not very likely to happen for obvious reasons.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26929076 - 09/10/20 09:40 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The term "people of color" is inherently divisive, by the way.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Eminence] * 3
    #26929097 - 09/10/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The obsolete notion of race is divisive.


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    #26929498 - 09/11/20 07:51 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

White people make up the entire spectrum of color.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26929500 - 09/11/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Nonagon Infinity said:
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Acting weird has been the cause of deaths in this nation since before it was even a nation.  Every day, kids are beat up because they act weird.  Violence against people deemed outside of the norm is so common that we can probably hypothesize that there is a genetic/evolutionary force behind it.



Not to mention, we lock up people who chronically "act weird" in buildings without adequate care where us "normal people" don't have to look at them or think about them. I'm speaking about the institutionalization of mentally ill people.

I'm not disagreeing with you: acting weird has been used as the justification for violence for a long, long time. I'm just saying that this is an injustice.




Of course it is. But look what happens when you act the opposite. If you act completely nonchalant you can walk 10 feet away from a cop with a lit joint in your hand. I once had a five minute conversation with a conservation officer about mushroom hunting. I was sitting inside my jeep, he was standing outside, and I had two five gallon buckets of marijuana clones in back. He saw the buckets and started asking me about mushrooms. I was able to act natural because it was May, and I had practiced this scenario in my head many times.




You are my hero.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? *DELETED* [Re: SirTripAlot]
    #26929517 - 09/11/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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White people make up the entire spectrum of color.



White is the absence of color in pigment.  If you add every color in pigment, you get black.

You're thinking of white light which is the presence of all color.


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    #26930111 - 09/11/20 02:37 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The term "people of color" is inherently divisive, by the way.



Race as a concept is inherently divisive, by the way.


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    #26930124 - 09/11/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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    #26930167 - 09/11/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Technically, I guess everything with a label can be divisive depending on who you ask, but that doesn't make it a negative by default. There are clearly different races, whether you want to call them "races" or not can be up for debate. But modern humans aren't just different shades of the same exact hominid. East Asians have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA, followed by Europeans, and sub-saharan Africans have the least amount but also a notable amount of "ghost DNA" from a so far, unconfirmed hominid, which some think may be Homo Erectus.

But "people of color" is always meant to compare to "white" people in some political way for some sort of leverage, doesn't matter if my Korean neighbor is more pale than me, he's still a "poc" somehow. While I'm not literally "white." I go from peach-ish to light brown depending on the time of the year.


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    #26930225 - 09/11/20 03:25 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If two average africans are genetically more different than an average african and an average european, then calling them all "black" is a bit unscientific.

There are way more "races" within the subsaharan population of Africa than in the rest of the world combined.


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    #26930261 - 09/11/20 03:44 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Technically, I guess everythihg with a label can be divisive depending on who you ask, but that doesn't make it a negative by default.




Of course not. The ability to make distinctions isn't a negative thing at all. I would argue the ability to make distinction between different categories is one of the most fundamental tools of human intelligence. That said, labels don't simply exist to divide things into categories. Labels can also make statements about the members of the categories they distinguish between.

For example, we could argue that the word n***** was a term for racial distinction. However, it was historically used by white people to demonstrate not only that they were different from people of color, but also to assert their superiority to them. That's why people of color have a problem with white people using that word today.

I believe the reason that "people of color" is seeing more use nowadays has to do with who is putting the label on whom. In the US, what it means to be "white" is determined almost exclusively by white people. White people have the luxury of being able to form a racial identity on their own terms, which is not a luxury that people of color are afforded. In the US, a person of color's racial identity is always determined in comparison to a standard of whiteness created by white people. Being white means being in a club that people of color are not allowed in. However, saying that this applies the other way around would be to ignore the benefits of being in one club versus the other. Nobody who is in the "white club" wants to leave, but people of color would love to enjoy the benefits that being in the "white club" entails (more wealth, access to better healthcare, access to better housing, less likely to be incarcerated, less likely to be the victim of police violence, higher paying jobs, more political power, etc.). Being white is exclusionary, and "person of color" is a label for one of the excluded.

Using the term "Person of color" is not an act of "othering" white people by black people. "Person of color" is the result of the "othering" of non-white people by white people.


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