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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Enlil]
#26927115 - 09/09/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: He COULD have said many things.
Not if you want to make an accurate hypothetical.
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Enlil said: He DIDN'T SAY that Trump was using tax dollars to defend himself against a rape charge. Nonetheless, you literally DID say:
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Psilynut2 also is not credible for claiming Trump was using tax dollars to defend himself against a rape charge?
You also said:
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what about Psilynut2's claim that Trump is "using their tax dollars to defend himself against a rape charge"?
Ok, fair point.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26927147 - 09/09/20 08:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fine. Back on topic. The strategy is to get Trump out of trouble by having the statements treated as official communications in the performance of his duties. That way, he's immune.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Enlil]
#26927215 - 09/09/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Call me out on make believe all the time? You couldnt cite one actual example. Yet multiple examples of your make believe exist in this thread alone.
You even made a poll in an attempt to troll me and it backfired; proving most of the posters in this sub consider you to be the runner up to king of make believe around here.
I dont hate you, dude. I think you're a dishonest debater and I choose not to engage with you sometimes and choose to call bullshit other times.
You're not important enough for me to hate. You're a person on the internet, man.
Criticising you and calling out your bullshit is hardly indicative of hatred.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: SirTripAlot]
#26927225 - 09/09/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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On topic, it's fucking stupid that they are trying to change trump to "the united states" if this here is true.
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SirTripAlot said: Da legal argument, they want to change Trump to "United States".
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/09/910992023/justice-dept-intervenes-to-take-over-trumps-defense-in-defamation-lawsuit
In an unusual five-page filing in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, the Justice Department argued that Trump's remarks were made in the performance of his official duties as president and that therefore government attorneys should assume Trump's defense from his private lawyers.
The filing asked the court to designate the United States, rather than Trump, as the defendant in Carroll's defamation suit and to move the case from state to federal court. Federal officials are generally immune from charges of defamation. If the DOJ's filing is successful, it would effectively bring Carroll's case to an end.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: natedawgnow]
#26927250 - 09/09/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think falcon’s credibility has been pretty much trashed at this point. Some of us realized he had none a long time ago, but he’s done himself in during 2020
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: natedawgnow]
#26927304 - 09/09/20 10:49 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Call me out on make believe all the time? You couldnt cite one actual example. Yet multiple examples of your make believe exist in this thread alone.
Holy make believe dude! You gave me a qualifier of "An article I've shared that turned out to be false". Then you said "I almost never come in his sub to share news, I come in to comment and weigh in on news others have shared", so OF COURSE I'm not going to find a fake news article you've posted. But I can find dozens of make believe statements you've made about me, and be happy to do that to prove my point.
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natedawgnow said: I dont hate you, dude. I think you're a dishonest debater and I choose not to engage with you sometimes and choose to call bullshit other times.
You're not important enough for me to hate. You're a person on the internet, man.
Criticising you and calling out your bullshit is hardly indicative of hatred.
You don't call out my bullshit though, you just call me names and when I ask for proof you tell me you've gotta go fishing instead.
I'll make you a signature bet to prove my point. Let's see who can post the most make believe statements of the other person. I'll work alone, you can have everyone here helping you, including Enlil. Balls (or someone else we think is neutral) will be the judge. If I find more make believe, you have to change your signature to "I now realize that I am a bigger make believer than Falcon91Wolvrn03" for 3 months. If you find more make believe, I have to change my signature to "I now realize that I am a bigger make believer than natedawgnow" for 3 months, PLUS I'll take a voluntary 1 week ban.
I KNOW you'll make excuses because I KNOW you know you'll lose. But prove me wrong by taking the challenge.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: koods]
#26927305 - 09/09/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I think falcon’s credibility has been pretty much trashed at this point. Some of us realized he had none a long time ago, but he’s done himself in during 2020
I'll make the same bet above for you. 
I can't wait for the excuses...
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26927310 - 09/09/20 10:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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natedawgnow said: Call me out on make believe all the time? You couldnt cite one actual example. Yet multiple examples of your make believe exist in this thread alone.
Holy make believe dude! You gave me a qualifier of "An article I've shared that turned out to be false". Then you said "I almost never come in his sub to share news, I come in to comment and weigh in on news others have shared", so OF COURSE I'm not going to find a fake news article you've posted. But I can find dozens of make believe statements you've made about me, and be happy to do that to prove my point.
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natedawgnow said: I dont hate you, dude. I think you're a dishonest debater and I choose not to engage with you sometimes and choose to call bullshit other times.
You're not important enough for me to hate. You're a person on the internet, man.
Criticising you and calling out your bullshit is hardly indicative of hatred.
You don't call out my bullshit though, you just call me names and when I ask for proof you tell me you've gotta go fishing instead.
I'll make you a signature bet to prove my point. Let's see who can post the most make believe statements of the other person. I'll work alone, you can have everyone here helping you, including Enlil. Balls (or someone else we think is neutral) will be the judge. If I find more make believe, you have to change your signature to "I now realize that I am a bigger make believer than Falcon91Wolvrn03" for 3 months. If you find more make believe, I have to change my signature to "I now realize that I am a bigger make believer than natedawgnow" for 3 months, PLUS I'll take a voluntary 1 week ban.
I KNOW you'll make excuses because I KNOW you know you'll lose. But prove me wrong by taking the challenge. 
That conversation in which I "added a qualifier" was about FAKE NEWS, not your interpretation of make believe.
I hold strong that I havent posted fake news. Sure, Ive posted a few things that hurt your sensibilities that youve labled make believe, but we were talking about fake news, of which I have posted none; unlike you.
Damn man you cant go 1 post without being dishonest
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: natedawgnow]
#26927317 - 09/09/20 10:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dude I'm not playing your game, keep asking and I'll keep ignoring.
I've played your show me evidence game before and you denied I supplied it even after resupplying it and quoting it several times. Engaging you in such a fashion is a waste of time.
Say I'm making excuses if you want
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: natedawgnow]
#26927325 - 09/09/20 11:03 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: That conversation in which I "added a qualifier" was about FAKE NEWS, not your interpretation of make believe.
No, not my interpretation of make believe, a neutral party's interpretation.
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natedawgnow said: I hold strong that I havent posted fake news. Sure, Ive posted a few things that hurt your sensibilities that youve labled make believe, but we were talking about fake news, of which I have posted none; unlike you.
You already admitted you don't even post news.
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natedawgnow said: Damn man you cant go 1 post without being dishonest 
What's the dishonesty here? I've called you a make believer for make believing things about me, not for hurting my sensibilities (more make believe). Please explain the dishonesty. Maybe balls or Enlil can help me understand the dishonesty here, because you're never able to.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: natedawgnow]
#26927327 - 09/09/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Dude I'm not playing your game, keep asking and I'll keep ignoring.
I've played your show me evidence game before and you denied I supplied it even after resupplying it and quoting it several times. Engaging you in such a fashion is a waste of time.
Say I'm making excuses if you want 
I WILL say you're making excuses, because I wouldn't be the judge.
And you've never supplied evidence of my make believe before - you tell me something like it's back 10 pages somewhere.
Enlil at least gave me one example.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 2
#26927335 - 09/09/20 11:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: I think falcon’s credibility has been pretty much trashed at this point. Some of us realized he had none a long time ago, but he’s done himself in during 2020
I'll make the same bet above for you. 
I can't wait for the excuses...
Grow up
Just the fact that you want to compare yourself to the king of make believe says everything. It’s like when people say our gun crimes aren’t as bad as Zimbabwe
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: koods]
#26927354 - 09/09/20 11:47 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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But nate's claiming he's more honest. Are you saying nate is also comparable to Zimbabwe?
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Enlil]
#26927373 - 09/10/20 12:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Fine. Back on topic. The strategy is to get Trump out of trouble by having the statements treated as official communications in the performance of his duties. That way, he's immune.
Which is strange because his lawyers argued that he could block people on Twitter because his statements weren’t official communications
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
#26927376 - 09/10/20 12:16 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: But nate's claiming he's more honest. Are you saying nate is also comparable to Zimbabwe? 
what do you get out of being declared more honest than the two people you think are the most dishonest? It’s just a stupid game for you to relitigate issues.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: koods]
#26927474 - 09/10/20 02:15 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I knew you'd both chicken out.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] 1
#26927556 - 09/10/20 04:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: But nate's claiming he's more honest. Are you saying nate is also comparable to Zimbabwe? 
Nate IS more honest. But you don’t think so. It’s like you challenging the person you think is the worst chess player to a game. You gonna brag about beating the person youve been saying is the worst chess player? Why would you even lower yourself to that level? You know neither me or Nate is gonna waste our time rehashing all crap you bullshitted the first time ad naseum. It’s just a stupid game and the only winning move is not to play.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: koods]
#26927944 - 09/10/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Because if someone keeps saying they are better at chess than me, I'll challenge them to a game so we both can find out. I've got nothing but excuses from you and nate every time I ask you for examples as they happen.
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: koods]
#26927946 - 09/10/20 10:02 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jesus, can we just keep the thread on topic? It's kind of annoying to see that there are new posts on this interesting thread only to find out that it's just the two of you bickering over who's more honest (as you do on other threads). Can one of you just be the bigger person and drop it?
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Re: DOJ to represent Trump in a personal legal matter [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
#26927983 - 09/10/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sure.
According to Wikipedia, "attorney general Bill Barr asserted the move was a routine application of the Westfall Act that permits the Justice Department to defend federal employees against civil liability for acts conducted in the normal course of their duties." Barr believed Trump was acting within the scope of his office as President when he called Carroll’s rape accusation a lie in 2019.
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