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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26934494 - 09/14/20 03:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Not really.  Is inane.  How is your night?:chillpill:


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: Barnaby]
    #26934523 - 09/14/20 04:40 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

could be worse i guess they usually ban me when i say things like that. i am scared for my family and friend's. the air isn't moving anywhere. how's your night


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: Barnaby]
    #26934538 - 09/14/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I shouldn't laugh about it, a whole city burning down, but still.  I find it amusing. Even in Oregon, amazing.

I almost got killed by rednecks when I got lost last year in Oregon. 

Nothing like a gun to the ribs and some fucker saying while driving, stop shaking. 





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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26934542 - 09/14/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone know anything about satellite imagery? I found this a few days ago, I am curious if anyone has any idea what else it could be

The poster claims only brightness an saturation was adjusted to make it more visible. I don't think it looks shopped but image quality is low. The poster is known to be reliable




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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26934591 - 09/14/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Haven't heard a single helicopter throughout all this. Not sure how they are fighting these fires if thier not dropping water on them.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26934786 - 09/14/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Afaik aerial fighting is only done specifically to curb direction, say for example to slow movement towards a town. Trying to put it out is like pissing on a bonfire and hoping for tangible results.

The main weapon against major fires is controlled back burning. When really hot fires actually get close (here at least) they are so hot that by then there's not much to do but run away, unless you want to die in the firestorm too. I've seen people who have lost their farms, burned to the ground, when the fire was 30m from their house. An hour at 600c sets most things alight. The flames don't even need to touch. Whole towns here burned down last fire season because of this effect. Terrifying stuff.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: Northerner]
    #26934800 - 09/14/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Ah got it. Makes sence. This is the 1st place I've not seen that tactic done. I guess a forest fire is a different animal than the brush fires ive seen in past years.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26935403 - 09/14/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Chasing Boogeymen: Oregon's Nazis React to Historic Wildfires

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Oregon sheriff tells suspicious residents to put down their guns
An Oregon sheriff has a message for residents who are holding people at gunpoint in evacuated areas – "please stop that." Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts says some armed residents concerned about looters have been conducting stops on their own. Roberts said that while his office has received hundreds of emergency calls from suspicious residents in or near evacuated areas, the majority of calls are unfounded. He urged residents not to take the law into their own hands.

"It is illegal to stop someone at gunpoint," Roberts said late Sunday. ""The last thing I want to see is anything tragically happen because somebody is overreacting to something."




https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/western-wildfires-biden-cites-climate-change-rips-trump-oregon-sheriff-orders-vigilantes-to-put-guns-away-the-science-of-orange-skies/ar-BB190Vbb

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Trump, quiet on fires, to pay visit today
President Donald Trump, out west for a series of campaign fundraisers and rallies, will meet with California Gov. Gavin Newsom and visit a fire command center in Sacramento County today where he will be briefed by local and federal fire and emergency officials, the White House said. Trump has had little to say about the fires, either on Twitter or in his public appearances, although he did thank the firefighters in a tweet Friday and indicated that financial help was on the way. Last month he had threatened to withhold federal money.

“I see again the forest fires are starting," he said at an August rally in Pennsylvania. "They’re starting again in California. I said, you gotta clean your floors, you gotta clean your forests. ... “Maybe we’re just going to have to make them pay for it because they don’t listen to us." 




we don't need the federal government they only show up to terrorize people this is so sick. infants are dying there is no air. you are killing your own people you stupid fucks you are destroying america


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26935417 - 09/14/20 03:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

america is dying


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26935507 - 09/14/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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america is dying





I guess Putin's plan is coming to fruition without having launched a single ICBM.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26935510 - 09/14/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

A true M.  YOU survive my any means necessary.  No conscience.  Good for you fucker.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: Barnaby]
    #26935595 - 09/14/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

good point. that's why we shouldn't let you sociopaths drive the ship


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26935656 - 09/14/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Does anyone know anything about satellite imagery? I found this a few days ago, I am curious if anyone has any idea what else it could be

The poster claims only brightness an saturation was adjusted to make it more visible. I don't think it looks shopped but image quality is low. The poster is known to be reliable







He musnt be making enough money of his channel so is now fueling conspiracies.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: larry.fisherman] * 1
    #26935728 - 09/14/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Does anyone know anything about satellite imagery? I found this a few days ago, I am curious if anyone has any idea what else it could be

The poster claims only brightness an saturation was adjusted to make it more visible. I don't think it looks shopped but image quality is low. The poster is known to be reliable









:facepalm:

Yes, a giant laser beam being shot down from the north pole or from satellites is exactly what's causing the fires along the west coast.


There's absolutely no possible way the thousands of lightning strikes that rolled through the area last month could have ignited a forest fire....There's no way that could have happened, especially while humidity was down around 10% or less, while there is a severe drought going on, while temperatures were up around 108 to 113 degrees for several days, and while winds up were blowing around 25mph to 45mph+. Those conditions are definitely not the prime conditions for a severe outbreak of forest fires.

There's no way wild fires have been a natural thing that happens during the summer around our planet for thousands & thousands of years.






Satellite imagery does have glitches like that occasionally (I've watched many hours of satellite loops over the years. I'm someone that has watched literally hundreds of hours of loops of satellite & doppler radar over the past 30+ years, just today alone I've spent prob around 10 to 15 minutes observing the visible satellite loops of the west coast and I've been doing so every day for over a month now. I'm a bit of a weather geek/obsessed with the weather/atmospheric things, as a child I would watch the weather channel for hours each day just observing satellite/doppler loops looping over and over again )...

....but to believe the theory that some sort of energy weapon or laser beam is responsible for these fires is one of the most ignorant and far out/wacky things to believe. It's total shit-brain thinking. I don't believe anyone with a rational mind would ever come to the conclusion that these fires are being caused by a weapon of some sort, the only people that believe such a ridiculous theory are those that are fed the idea and they don't know how to use critical thinking. To see a glitch like that in satellite imagery and think that's evidence for some sort of energy weapon is pure ignorance of the subject.



Forest fires are a real thing that happens :rolleyes:, they're an important dynamic/force that has been occurring on this planet for millennia . I can't believe such a ridiculous theory exists that these fires are being ignited by "energy weapons" of some sort...JFC I want off this planet.





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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: openmind] * 3
    #26935931 - 09/14/20 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

The most powerful weaponized lasers on Earth can light stuff on fire from a mile away and maybe a bit farther, but from Low Earth Orbit you're talking about a distance of 100 miles at the very minimum, and most satellites are much further than that (the international space station being 250+ miles away from the surface, and geostationary satellites like those used for weather satellites being 22,000 miles from the Earth' surface) Lasers would need to penetrate at least 300 miles of atmosphere, but also independent from atmosphere, from any distance going through space they would experience beam divergence that spreads the beam out and makes it weaker across the beam.

In the video, what is captured comes from a weather satellite stationed 22250 miles from the surface of the Earth, and the beam covers the entire upper half of the image. If it were a beam, this would need to be very far away from Earth based on how much of the image it takes up (if it were coming from a low earth orbit or anything not very near the distance of the weather satellite, the entirety of the beam would be visible inside a fraction of the image).

In order to reach the Earth concentrated enough to cause a fire from any distance in orbit, you would need at least infrared light and using more energy than has ever been used for a laser on Earth that we know of. The beam would also cover a large area (several miles/km) depending on how large the beam is to start. The larger the beam at the beginning, the smaller the aperture, but then to get a beam large enough to cover an area small enough to light a few trees on fire and not an entire town laden with evidence of laser burn, you'd need a really large laser that would probably be visible from Earth and literally tear through the ozone completely.

The most powerful scientific lasers are even stronger than the weaponized ones though. https://theconversation.com/worlds-most-powerful-laser-is-2-000-trillion-watts-but-whats-it-for-45891#:~:text=The%20most%20powerful%20laser%20beam,trillionth%20of%20a%20second%20or

It's also the 300 meters long, much larger than any man-made satellite in orbit that we know of, and still not energized enough to maintain a sustained beam longer than a trillionth of a second, which would be needed in order to be video captured by a weather satellite. At this point the laser would literally have to be built on the entire surface of the moon and charged for years, which is a lot of work to do what a single match could do.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: PatrickKn] * 1
    #26935986 - 09/14/20 09:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks for the responses guys. For the record, though I don't think there was confusion, I don't subscribe to the theory. I just thought the video was curious and conspiracy die-hards have been trying to push the DEW wildfire thing for a few years.


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: PatrickKn]
    #26936004 - 09/14/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

We got death star,

We got death star,

We got death star,

And you know that we got it,
Death star,

And you know that we got it,
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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: budmanman]
    #26936007 - 09/14/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: budmanman]
    #26936096 - 09/14/20 10:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

blessings on the way tonight. hang in there people


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Re: So the whole west coast is basically on fire now. [Re: MadMuncher]
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