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    #26924998 - 09/08/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Was wondering if anyone has any experience or suggestions on a river raft that can be backpacked and carried a light load. How do the ones from Walmart hold up?


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26925014 - 09/08/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Dont know about rafts or the ones from Walmart, but my inflatable Firefly kayaks can hold up to some ruff conditions. Have gone on day long trips down creeks with deadfall and rocks, to fishing on backwaters. Even recently had them out on Lake Michigan.



They were a birthday gift from my wife and never asked the price, but are loads of fun and pretty much everything youd want for backpacking. Love these things.


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Re: packable river raft [Re: The Influence]
    #26925063 - 09/08/20 05:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Appreciate the tip mate. That looks a bit more sturdy than the Intex ones. You suppose you'd be able to strap that to a 80liter packand carry it a ways if you had to?


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26925068 - 09/08/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Absolutely. Paddles bust down in two and are light as a feather. The kayaks themselves roll up great and are not heavy at all. Not sure on exact weight but I would guess 10-15 pounds. Could definitely strap one to a pack and head out.


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26925519 - 09/08/20 11:46 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

much better plan. was going to suggest a river rafting trip in that other thread but idk not trying to give too much advice. you will run into a lot more bear by the rivers.
are you in ak?


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Re: packable river raft [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26928982 - 09/10/20 08:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

these may be expensive but I have gone through some hefty whitewater on them and they can pack a shitload of gear.

https://www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/


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Re: packable river raft [Re: mushmountain]
    #26931138 - 09/12/20 02:42 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The closest thing I can think of would be a fishing float tube. You won't be going white water rafting with it but you can wade down stream or cross rivers while staying basically dry.


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Re: packable river raft [Re: mushmountain]
    #26931964 - 09/12/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I'm in Ak.

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these may be expensive but I have gone through some hefty whitewater on them and they can pack a shitload of gear.

https://www.alpackaraft.com/rafting/





Good call. I was looking at these TPU ones. Look almost the same. Made in China thou. IDK of I trust it

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Inflatable-Lightweight-TPU-2-Person-River-Micro-PackRaft-Kayak-Canoe-NEW-/124264212367


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26932045 - 09/12/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)



Edited by Ogla (09/12/20 05:47 PM)


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26932642 - 09/12/20 10:45 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Those look really cool. The descriptions don't give collapsed dimensions. I saw 1 was a 7lbs package which isn't too bad as far as extra weight in your pack. No returns too so if it isn't packable or practical to hike with you would be stuck with it.


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Re: packable river raft [Re: GreenHorns]
    #26933046 - 09/13/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The forager as listed in alpaca website
Weight* 13.4lb | 6.10kg
Packed Size** 20x10in | 51x25cm
Max Capacity*** 1000lb | 453kg

And it's only $600 on eBay compared to $1700 on alpaca website.

Still doing research on the other one.  I'm assuming it's heavier and larger because it's made of PVC and not TPU material. Thou as cool as the forager is, I might settle for something smaller


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26934120 - 09/13/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Im telling you the Firefly is your best bet. Its by Advanced Elements btw. These things are fucking sweet. Never had them in white water, but think they would handle it. Whatever you choose, post it here if you would :thumbup:


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Re: packable river raft [Re: The Influence]
    #26934151 - 09/13/20 08:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I saw this cool kayak that folded into a carrying bag on my instagram a few days ago


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Dorfnob]
    #26941447 - 09/17/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

https://ebay.com/usr/productsinternationalusa

This guy says he can do me a costum green or gray on the first auction.  I was leaning towards the first or 5th.  Aiming for something similar to the alpacka raft mule.  Weight is a huge factor in all this. I figure a single person tent at about 6 pounds and the raft at about 8 pounds onto a backpack, I'm trying to go reliable but light.
I'm dissing my alice pack of about 5 years and I'm gonna start building a mountain pack. The packraft and tent are the first add ons I'm getting for it. Need something that's hikable. Aiming for 40-50lbs total backpack weight with all added supplies, but that's for another thread :wink:


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26951356 - 09/23/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I bought two of them. The alpacka raft forager and i think the 2nd one is similar to a kokopelli rouge-lite although it says expedition raft.co on it..  I was kinda a spaz buy and an expensive one at that totalling $1300  with taxes!  I was a bit worried about weight captivity with the first one which I think is 136ish kilos .  I weigh about 100 kilos, I bought the forager and figured one raft can be a backup should something happen in the field or for a friend to use. The forager says it holds up to 1000lbs so that's good for me, a 40-60lb bag and a rifle/ fishing supplies and shit. But yeah, 1300$ is a bit steep. I'll consider that my bonus for the year :grin:.

Eventually i think i might get a thrid one specifically for class IV and V rapids cause I found out there are some at places I'm trying to go


https://www.ebay.com/i/124264246174?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D1110006%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D225080%26meid%3D52c4712a87d04aa2a67799166ea39158%26pid%3D100694%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D124264280927%26itm%3D124264246174%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202%26algv%3DDefaultOrganic


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26967488 - 10/03/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yah those look pretty sweet bro. Something like that u want to spend on cuz u want a reliable quality. The other option would have been the folding skin kayaks or something


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Re: packable river raft [Re: CHeifM4sterDiezL]
    #26967904 - 10/03/20 04:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm waiting on them to come in the mail still. I think they are made when ordered. I was researching and I think maybe sometime early next year I am gonna get an alpacka raft decked with a self bailing floor and a skirt so I can ride rapids if I have to, or just for fun


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla] * 1
    #26999708 - 10/23/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

My packrafts have arrived. Was wondering if anyone can tell me what features make for the ranking of the packraft for classes of rapids.  Is it the thigh straps or the self bailing floor?  Can one ride some rapids in a packraft without a spray skirt or self bailing floor. Looking into some of the places I'm trying to go, it seems I should consider making my packraft rapid worthy


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #26999737 - 10/23/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I mean you could but any kinda serious rapids u could get swamped and end up in a potentially very dangerous situation especially in the middle of nowhere with all ur essential gear inside. I would recommend going very slow at first and getting used to what works and doesn't work with ur camping amd pack rafting gear then learn how to handle rapids which is actually incredibly technical. Atleast before trying some serious rapids or extended excursions.


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Re: packable river raft [Re: Ogla]
    #27013029 - 10/30/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I find that inflatables don't track well and are very heavy.
The posts on here indicate people having no problem with inflatable kayaks.



I had a lot more fun with a small 70litre bag and floating down the river on an inflatable duck.


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