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Mystery Craterellus
    #26924836 - 09/08/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)






Habitat: Growing on moss on the edge of a seep. Growing right next to Craterellus tubaeformis. Several small seeps in the area dominated by hemlocks (Tsuga canadensis). I frequent this spot on break at work, and have seen many C. tubaeformis here before, many Hydnum umbilicatum as well.

Gills:
White. Lack of defined ridges, looks more like folds or wrinkles.

Stem:
1.5 inches, white, slightly slimy, hollow. Displaying an extra "leg," looks like two stems joined as one in the older specimen

Cap:
1.5 inches (larger specimen), light grey-brown, many waves and folds, slightly slimy.

Spore print color:
In progress.

Bruising:
None

Other information:
Very fragrant, maybe comparable to the apricot chanterelle smell, but with a perfume kick. Found maybe a dozen of them, and can probably return at some point this week if anyone would like me to further document them.

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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: raffib128]
    #26924845 - 09/08/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Psilocybe cubensis data collection thread. please help with this project if you hunt wild cubensis.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26513593&page=0&vc=1#26513593


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: Doc9151]
    #26924874 - 09/08/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, i was hanging on a strong maybe for C. foetidus when I posted. I'm gonna have to get back down there and see if they are all so starkly white. The bigger one is maybe a little darker in color. I'll get some more pics of freshly picked specimens - keep forgetting my phone when I stumble on the coolest mushrooms haha


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: raffib128]
    #27199245 - 02/11/21 12:02 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I have found what I think is this mushroom posted to mushroomobserver.org and labeled as "Craterellus lutescens var. pallida." Any thoughts?


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: raffib128]
    #27203091 - 02/13/21 06:14 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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raffib128 said:
I have found what I think is this mushroom posted to mushroomobserver.org and labeled as "Craterellus lutescens var. pallida." Any thoughts?




Looking at pictures of that species makes sense, although your description of the smell is interesting.
The C. lutescens I find in Norway lacks any distinct smell. As far as a whitish variety goes, I can't
tell since I've never found it here.


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: raffib128]
    #27203170 - 02/13/21 07:37 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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raffib128 said:
Growing on moss on the edge of a seep. Growing right next to Craterellus tubaeformis. Several small seeps in the area dominated by hemlocks (Tsuga canadensis). I frequent this spot on break at work, and have seen many C. tubaeformis here before...



Could be C.tubaeoformis variety, or a lighter phenotype. Have you compared the smell with neighboring tubaeoformis ?

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raffib128 said:
I have found what I think is this mushroom posted to mushroomobserver.org and labeled as "Craterellus lutescens var. pallida." Any thoughts?



Cratellus lutescens var pallidus is name created and used only by one person on MO. No doubt you have the same mushroom. Could be a rare variety of known mushrooms (lutescens or tubaeformis variety), or maybe new undescribed species.

You should definitely go back and investigate it further. Also where is this found ?


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: RenegadeMycologist]
    #27203177 - 02/13/21 07:45 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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Also where is this found ?




OP is in Vermont, NE USA.


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: Anglerfish]
    #27203390 - 02/13/21 10:34 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, found in Vermont. Found in the same sort of habitat I see Craterellus lutescens and Craterellus tubaeformis; growing out of moss in a very wet environment; typically with Tsuga canadensis growing nearby.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26864682/page/2

They smell identical to the Craterellus species in this id request (one of my firsts, very poor picture quality). The closest thing I could find online for this species was Craterellus lutescens f. luteocomus.

Although the smell is somewhat pleasant at first, it becomes almost sickly after a prolonged period, but perhaps that is a personal thing.

Both of the species in question have folds or wrinkles as opposed to developed ridges; the pore surface is smooth.

I know exactly where I found these and when, so hopefully I'll get back to these sites for better documentation this year. The C. lutescens f. luteocomus fruiting was spectacular and should make for good pics; hundreds of fruits in a very small area.

Edit: smell is much stronger than C. tubaeformis


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Re: Mystery Craterellus [Re: raffib128]
    #27203910 - 02/13/21 03:30 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

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raffib128 said:
Although the smell is somewhat pleasant at first, it becomes almost sickly after a prolonged period, but perhaps that is a personal thing.

Edit: smell is much stronger than C. tubaeformis




These descriptions, in my honest opinion, point away from C. lutescens, at least as I know them.

Based on your description of the smell they sound almost more like C. cornucopioides. :shrug:


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