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DIY Dehydrator 3
#26924802 - 09/08/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ladies and Gentleman, I present to you...
The DEHYDRO-MATIC 5000
I upped my mush game so much that no traditional store-bought dehydrator could keep up even with extra cut out trays so I did a little tinkering in the garage. Yes I know there's commercial models like the ones Cabelas makes but I like to build shit and I didn't want to fork out that much cash.
Most of what you'll see here is stuff I had laying around from other projects so it only cost me about $50 once I decided to build one. I won't bore you with explicit details and measurements since it's all basic carpentry and you can build one any size you like.
You may have seen me mention these bread racks before that I use for drying grain.

I cut 5 in half and cut out the center to build this dehydrator sized around 10 of those peices. The oval cutout in the bottom is sized for the intake side of a small space heater.

Added rails for the racks and laid in the heater.

Laid another board on top of the heater and made a cut-out for the exhaust side.

Slid in my racks for size...

Pulled them all out and zip-tied aluminum screening.

At first I just drilled a bunch of holes in the top similar to how a dehydrator lid works thinking it would be enough airflow from the fan on the heater but I kept blowing the circuit breaker in my garage. I think the heater may have been over-heating from too much heat lingering around it so I cut out a 4' hole in the top and added a duct fan.
No problems after that!

The heater has a dial temperature control so I played with it until I had it shutting off around 160F and turning on at 150F.

And there you have it! It'll dry a little mush.
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I bet that things dries a ton!
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A pound a tray seems reasonable. Wish I would have finished it before I harvested 3 monos but have a few more to go. Cramming those in 2 standard dehydrators was a bitch!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: mushboy]
#26925135 - 09/08/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice! I used pegboard for the top on mine. I like the weather stripping!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26925200 - 09/08/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thank you my dudes.
Ted I've likely seen yours for ideas.
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Doooooope man. Glad to see you made it into a write up 
Roughly how tall is yours? I dont think I need one quite that big if you're getting a pound a shelf, but I'd like one about half that size. And I have a good bit of scrap wood from the flow hood build I wanna use
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Gan]
#26925243 - 09/08/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Its 39" tall and the trays are 19.5 deep. I'll re-measure and edit.
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That's awesome i love myself some diy project How much you are drying with every flush?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: ProNoia]
#26925385 - 09/08/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I dont have a good clone going right now but 5:8 MS cube dailed monos go anywhere around 900-1400g wet 1st flush. I only weigh if I'm working on a culture. Last couple months have been quick MS/Expand/Spawn/Repeat
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I wonder how it'll do when mostly full? I think rotating the trays from top to bottom might be beneficial.
This is a stellar upgrade to the common prestos
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Dhearic]
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Not baggin on you but fuck rotating thats why I built this beast. I'm no Pablo Escabar.
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 I've been cling wrapping my cusinart. I have 2 units with cut cords that heat up well but don't blow properly anymore. I'm thinking I'll pull em apart and build something custom like this.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Failboat]
#26925505 - 09/08/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice. I built one quite similar a while back but a bit bigger. Let us know how she does when full to the gills. How much dry weight in how many hours. Cheers for making shit happen. That's what it's all about.
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Yeah... i'm curious to see how it actually perfroms when stuffed with fruits.
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I have seen the tubs you harvested, so many healthy mushrooms, do you mind giving me some advice?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: ProNoia]
#26926581 - 09/09/20 03:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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we're all here to help! do you have a thread or journal going I can jump in?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: ProNoia]
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ProNoia said: I have seen the tubs you harvested, so many healthy mushrooms, do you mind giving me some advice?
Reading some of your earlier posts I can see you're a little off track but members have given you some solid advice, read through your comments and follow a current proven Tek exactly as its written. Shoeboxes are a great place to start. With clean spawn its almost hard to screw it up.
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let us know how much dry weight it fits per shelf. Mine is a bout half a lb per shelf with 5 inches between shelves with 10 shelves and my biggest one has 16 shelves.
Just my 2cents... use a heater with a ceramic element! They last longer. Ive had coil heaters burn out in less than an hour I cant tell what type yous is from the pic. Also adding a fan might help unless your heater has a strong one in it? Just dont use box fans. Hurricane or cool flow work well for me.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26926977 - 09/09/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Appreciate the input bud. I'm harvesting early tomorrow morning probably 1000-1500g, I'll post how it does. The heater is ceramic. The duct fan is 120cfm - moves Hella air but still keeps the temp around 160F with the heater at 75%.
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Ah, I wasnt sure if that was a fan in there or not. Ive always gone with a bottom fan but your method may work better. I need to experiment. Ive always thought that it will keep more hot air in if I let it escape on its own. Im working on another right now but am having a bit of a time sourcing the parts I want. Sadly I wont be able to post about it but I can upload pics of my others. The ones kinda ghetto. I was in a hurry and didnt want to buy/cut ply wood for siding so I used some foam board insulation I had laying around. It works well enough tho.
Great tek by the way!!! I havent seen one yet for a diy dryer. This will be what people reference for yrs to come
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Dhearic]
#26927074 - 09/09/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder how it'll do when mostly full? I think rotating the trays from top to bottom might be beneficial.
This is a stellar upgrade to the common prestos 
This is a different league than the presto!
An "upgrade" to a presto would be like the one linked in my signature. 🤘
Solid write up OP!
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Wait... presto is a pc brand. Tgey make dehydros? Nesco?
Ive used the bucket method before... nice! Great write-up! Thats where I fall short... could have mire writeups
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26927228 - 09/09/20 09:43 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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better work on your spelling then
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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TedsDead said: Ah, I wasnt sure if that was a fan in there or not. Ive always gone with a bottom fan but your method may work better. I need to experiment. Ive always thought that it will keep more hot air in if I let it escape on its own. Im working on another right now but am having a bit of a time sourcing the parts I want. Sadly I wont be able to post about it but I can upload pics of my others. The ones kinda ghetto. I was in a hurry and didnt want to buy/cut ply wood for siding so I used some foam board insulation I had laying around. It works well enough tho.
Great tek by the way!!! I havent seen one yet for a diy dryer. This will be what people reference for yrs to come
Think of it like a convection oven, you want more warm air moving across the mush, and if it has to escape naturally the moisture will also sit in there longer waiting to "escape naturally", so provided your heat source can keep up with the size of fan sucking from the top a top mounted fan sounds ideal in a setup like this. You want fresh warm air moving across the mush at all times and to let the moisture vent as quickly as possible not trapping it in there with the mush. Me likey. All these different posts about dehydrators gave me an idea I will share after I make it. 🤘 Love this place!
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I doubt any of us have run the proper tests to really say what's best. IT would end up being a balance of speed and efficiency. For sure, it'd be nice to have 160 degree air just fucking blasting over the fruit bodies but balancing that with the energy bill is the key.
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OP this is dope man we need more stuff like this
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Mateja]
#26927285 - 09/09/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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...coming soon.
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Quote:
verum subsequentis said: better work on your spelling then
Lol! I have the 2016 macbook pro with the notoriously effed keyboard and im a lazy typer
Airflow I believe is key over heat... some have 180 degree air blasting over their fruits. Id like to emulate that!
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Quote:
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TedsDead said: Ah, I wasnt sure if that was a fan in there or not. Ive always gone with a bottom fan but your method may work better. I need to experiment. Ive always thought that it will keep more hot air in if I let it escape on its own. Im working on another right now but am having a bit of a time sourcing the parts I want. Sadly I wont be able to post about it but I can upload pics of my others. The ones kinda ghetto. I was in a hurry and didnt want to buy/cut ply wood for siding so I used some foam board insulation I had laying around. It works well enough tho.
Great tek by the way!!! I havent seen one yet for a diy dryer. This will be what people reference for yrs to come
Think of it like a convection oven, you want more warm air moving across the mush, and if it has to escape naturally the moisture will also sit in there longer waiting to "escape naturally", so provided your heat source can keep up with the size of fan sucking from the top a top mounted fan sounds ideal in a setup like this. You want fresh warm air moving across the mush at all times and to let the moisture vent as quickly as possible not trapping it in there with the mush. Me likey. All these different posts about dehydrators gave me an idea I will share after I make it. 🤘 Love this place!
Yes! I use fans just not from the top. I have done both bottom and top fans but not soley top. My dryers seem to do the trick in about 8-12 hrs. MY main concern with not having a fan on the bottom is airflow past the heater to keep it from burning out. This has been an issue.
Sorry for the dbble post
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26927315 - 09/09/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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HA! Sorry I'm firing away from the phone and didn't stop to see who I was actually talking to lol 
You clearly got this
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I sure dont have all the answers. Maybe someday... ill post a tek when I do
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26927705 - 09/10/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Has anyone thought about working a nice sized dehumidifier into a build?
Heat and dehumhidification?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26927719 - 09/10/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A dehumidifier removes moisture from air which is already humid and where air exchange is not possible/difficult. Usually the dried air is fed back into the room where the dehumidifier is running. Now when drying mushrooms the humid air is just dumped outside of the dehydrator, and fresh dry air enters through the intake. The only thing matters is that the mushrooms are in a constant flow of hot dry air. So a dehumidifier is not really useful, except if you want to dry the air coming out of the dehydrator for some reason.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: sporecap]
#26927722 - 09/10/20 06:59 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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.......sure........
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26927726 - 09/10/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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You could actually dehumidify the air before sending it into the dehydrator, but I guess that's not needed, since air that has been heated from room temp to about 165F has less than 5%RH. PS: Sry, I did not mean to come off rude or anything
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: sporecap]
#26927730 - 09/10/20 07:10 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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A fuck ton of wet mushies increases humidity. No?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26927759 - 09/10/20 07:30 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Indeed, if you have 2pounds/1kg of mushies, 90% of that is water which needs to be pushed in the air. But since this does not happen instantly, the humidity can always distribute in a room/house. If drying takes 12h, this is about 1g water per minute. Air at room temperature at 50%RH holds about 8g of water per m^3, so it's noticeable, but unless you hermetically seal the room it should not have a large effect.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: sporecap]
#26927769 - 09/10/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay... so... 20 lb of fesh shroom in a dehydro. Dehumidifier wont help?

There's current temp and humidity in my house right now.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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20lb...
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Funky Monkey I loosely put 2 wet pounds in 4 trays this morning.


PRO TIP - When using this for the 1st time get your temp dialed in before leaving for work. Trying to explain to my wife how to monitor the Bluetooth temp sensor, go out to the garage, open the door, adjust the temp and close it back up is a real shitshow.
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sporecap said: 20lb... 
Did I sttttutttterrr?
Bro, i already have 160L dehydro. I'm talking adding dehumidification to a much larger setup.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: sporecap]
#26927910 - 09/10/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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sporecap said: 20lb... 
20lb wet is only 2lb dry.
My dehydrator can do close to 50lb wet per 24hr run.
Nice build grim!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26927916 - 09/10/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nate!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26927928 - 09/10/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nice Nate. Is your dehydro one you built or bought?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said: Nate!
 You're Awesome

@gan- it's diy. I'd upgrade to one like lot has but I'll be moving to a completely off grid mountain cabin here in the next week (driving to the closing meeting today whoo!) and I'm not sure our solar set up can handle it. Gonna have to work out a new drying method.
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Dope man. I'd never need one that large but I love DIY stuff.
I'm jealous of you man. The day after I graduated from college I drove 40 hours to live in an off grid cabin in the middle of nowhere in the Rocky's to work for like 7 months. I loved it. Wish I was cultivating back then.
Fished every evening after work. Hiked a lot. It was a dream. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm back doing something like that in the next 5-10 years
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Gan]
#26928013 - 09/10/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks man, my lady and I worked hard to get here. Just turned 29 on the 1st so I feel like we're a little ahead of the curve.
"Middle of nowhere in the rockies"
Sounds like home to me 
I plan on making a journal or open thread where people can follow my transition and innovations while trying to mush cult in an off grid property.
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That'd be a cool ass thread. I'd follow it just to see the creativity and DIY. That's my favorite part of mush cult. Sometimes I'll theorize how I'd do it off grid. Cause I always fantasize about living up on the Alaskan frontier. And I think how I'd do shrooms up there.
Only thing I'd miss is my flow hood. But I'd be fine going back to a SAB. I have no idea how much electricity a dehydro like Grim's or LotKid's would pull. I think that'd be the biggest hurdle since there's no real alternative.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Gan]
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Oh my hood comes with me 
I got a generator so Ill be running it on that til I get a dedicated solar set up purely for the hood. I think a few batteries can handle it.
Keep a look out for that thread the next couple weeks!
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I've been apart of making and using that mainly ran off dehumidifiers. I also have a friend that uses dehue with no heater at all. Room temp with fans and a dehue. I can't speak to either units efficiency seeing as to how one most run several loads and take precise notes and only momentarily interacted with them. But they both loved them.
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Congrats on leveling up Nate! Or down depending on your perspective.
@Gan this setup uses a 1500W space heater + the duct fan which is minimal. BTW I ordered a 1500W Inkbird thermostat controller so I don't have to have my wife fucking around with the heater setting. I already have a couple made for reptile mats lying around but they only go up to 108F. The one I just ordered does 212F.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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 You're Awesome
Awe, that's so nice

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Dont worry monkey. I 💜 U 2!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said: https://www.dehydratorsamerica.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&keyword=%2Bindustrial%20%2Bdehydrator&utm_content=331054384704&utm_campaign=Commercial%20Dehydrators%20US&gclid=EAIaIQobChMItrCxk_be6wIVh56zCh0tIwEOEAAYAiAAEgL--vD_BwE
These are #SAFAMB
But i'd just make my own. Take any commercial dehydro and take 75% off the tag. Give me the 25% that remain, a week, a workshop and the proper tools and I'll make one of equal quality (but it'll probably be a little less sexy. Like a fat girl with superior intellect, character and personality.)
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You also need 480 3 phase commercial power coming if plan to run the really big uns.
Be neat tho.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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"Drysmash"... I love that 🤣
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said: Has anyone thought about working a nice sized dehumidifier into a build?
Heat and dehumhidification? 
I have. My dehum is way too big for my mush. Dehum, fan, propane=dry massive amnts of stuff;) https://www.sylvane.com/dri-eaz-lgr-7000xli-dehumidifier.html?s_cid=cse_bingshopping&mkwid=&crid=9496541111&mp_kw=&mp_mt=e&pdv=m&msclkid=ea0ba61a05e11e036e2cf940725cf839&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GPL-Dehumidifiers (Branded)&utm_term=4584757333292530&utm_content=Dri-Eaz Dehumidifiers-Branded
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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Came home from work after being gone for 9 hours to cracker dry.

85g dry from 946g wet
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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Heat and dehumhidification? 
I have. My dehum is way too big for my mush. Dehum, fan, propane=dry massive amnts of stuff;) https://www.sylvane.com/dri-eaz-lgr-7000xli-dehumidifier.html?s_cid=cse_bingshopping&mkwid=&crid=9496541111&mp_kw=&mp_mt=e&pdv=m&msclkid=ea0ba61a05e11e036e2cf940725cf839&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=GPL-Dehumidifiers (Branded)&utm_term=4584757333292530&utm_content=Dri-Eaz Dehumidifiers-Branded
Damn! Did you flood something? What was that acquired for? Not cult I assume.
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not mush cult anyways...
Used it for large scale ganga drying(permitted of course )
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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Ahhhhh. 🤘
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85g dry from 946g wet
So it works. Now let's test her stuffed to the gills
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It'll be a while. My monos are nearing the end of their cycle and I haven't prepped grain in 2 weeks. Been working on Averys albino thats taking forever to clean. On T4 now.
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no hurry. I'm just excited.
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 Appreciate your support verum
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im curious about the top venting!?!? Ive gotten 8 months out of my heaters before they burn out so time trials will tell. I currently have 4 diys and they all have 1 heater and 1 fan at the bottom although after 1 day I pull out the bottom trays and move the top ones down to finish drying. Going to experiment with heat piped in through the back. We'll see how that works.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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I think the fan at the top is beneficial to the life of the heater. You're probably better off keeping the heater external. Mine is internal but separated by a 1/2" of partical board except for the exhaust cutout. Once I get the inkbird controller set up (delivery this Saturday) I'll put another probe in the heater compartment just to see how hot it gets in there.
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i think it'll get pretty hot. Many of the heaters i've used for dehrydros shut off when they get too hot. Fuckin sucks.
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I drove my wife crazy today on the phone and FaceTime running her out to the garage turning the analog heater down. I watched it for an hour this morning before I left and never got over 160F. 2 hours later she's calling me saying the kids keep asking me wtf is this thing on the counter beeping!?!
God bless technology. Inkbird will make it set and forget.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N464JQ8/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_i_qjWwFb6EBG9TH
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That's the head of the nail you just hit right there. Running multiple dehydros off of a generator out in the back country is a woeful state of things. Propane is looking to be the key.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Dhearic]
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3 #'s going in
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Which heater do you use?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: Bsdgaou]
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Anything in particular that made you pick that model?
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fuck those safety features. What ever happened to a world in which i could burn my own home to the ground if i ever felt so inclined (or stupid)?
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well I cetainly wouldn't disable it if it we're being used in my home as a heater lol. The tip over safety switch is there so it won't fall over face down in your house and yes, likely burn your house down. 
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I just had that one lying around. If you want to split hairs I guess you could stand the heater upright outside the box and have it blowing inside but that probably has its safety drawbacks as well.
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I'm aware. They have their place, for sure. I was half kidding while at the same time wishing we could all just take more personal responsibility for things and not have to be baby sat by corporations, the gubernment and the lawsuit culture.
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A lot of truth to that. And it costs us all more money for products with mandatory saftey features that in reality should be common sense.
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The safety features on my cuisinart food processor make me swear so much im gonna die early from stress. I had to manually disable them as best I could.
Tge tipover safety button on the heaters sucks because they get dust in them and stop working. Then u cant use your otherwise perfectly good heater without pressing it in 100s of times and then trying to set it down gently without it popping back out once you finally get it to turn on
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rtv the mutha fucker
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I'm fuckin down. I'll make them for everyone
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Ill take one! RTV... Good for soo many things!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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I think its worth noting that probably the last 30 #'s wet I've grown (10 or so through this dehydrator) have all been on oats. I know there's a lot of oat haters and I hated them too until I figured them out. In a perfect world I'd use rye for masters and oats to expand to. I'm going to start gearing all my grain this way.
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Theyre not as dense as other grains so u get less nutes by volume as say wheat or rye
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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Id love to use wheat but its not available in my area. Its less expensive than rye, equal in quality but regional availability. Oats in my opinion are an inferior grain but they're super cheap and the prep is fast. I do no soak and drop in a hard boil for 10 minutes with zero burst grains. The drawback of this method (and grain) is they don't hydrate as well. If you drop a wedge or two they may not make it to full colonization before they get too dry but for g2g it works well. Ive tried longer boils for better hydration and found the shorter boil coupled with g2g overall gives me the best results with all factors considered.
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I hear ya on availability. I get rye special ordered for me and im the only person that buys it. I have a whole pallet all to myself at any given time gave the owner some oyster, lionsmane, amd shiitake and he reciprocated.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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I love rye. Like plump little cherries full of hydration just expensive.
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its 3$ more than wheat , milo, or oats for me... prep is easy and it has a good buffer against overhydration thag wheat doesnt
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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What do you guys think of this? https://hackaday.io/project/27724-food-dehydrator-simple-and-cheap
I was gonna follow that guide when building mine, but if you guys have any recommendations or critiques for this specific use case that'd be cool.
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That looks dank. Is it just a pc fan?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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nice.
Anyone with a 160L store bought unit wanna tear it down and reassemble it? See what makes them tick?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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Yep, looks like it at least. Just a PC fan for exhaust at the top. No internal fan from what I can tell. Worth noting that he ditches the pegboard as an 'air distributor' after a few uses, in favor of increased airflow, and just uses window screen over the heating element instead. But yeah the build looks super sharp and cheap.
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I like the racks and its a clean build but much less heat and airflow than mine. If you're concerned about power usage it may be for you. Mine stays pegged at 160F & 120CFM.
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Yeah I hadn't seen one like yours until this thread. I like the idea of just throwing a whole heater/fan in there rather than wiring some element. I've got a little heater like the one you use too, I'll probably try your style first then see if the power bill is acceptable 
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Airflow is everything. I do this and no exhaust. I havent tested the difference yet tho
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26937747 - 09/15/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LotKid said: nice.
Anyone with a 160L store bought unit wanna tear it down and reassemble it? See what makes them tick?
Likely not, after spending the coin on one lol 
Does the 160L store-bought's efficiency make you scoff at the idea of a DIY down in your gut? Are they pretty sweet? Are you clocking similar dry times to people's diy builds you've seen, or are you smoking them on a by weight to dry-time basis?
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I think its the fact that the heat and fan are piped in so they dont take the brunt of the hit when it comes to temp on the motors. Also seems like that they dont vent too much hot air out and let it escape on its own. Just my thouhts
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The 160L from cabelas kicks ass for me. I use it for more than just shrooms too.
I dont scoff at a DIY dehydro at all. Its really nothing super complicated. Bigger and higher capacity without breaking the the bank would be sweet.
https://www.dehydratorsamerica.com/product-page/eight-trolley-192-tray-industrial-food-dehydrator-620-sq-ft-total-tray-area
As you can see by the link... really big uns are available. But, theyre a tad pricey.
Any thoughts on how to convert a garage into a dehydro? Maybe just half a garage?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26937788 - 09/15/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, its easy. The dehum I posted plus a couple double burner on tank propane heaters and som oscillating fans. Can dry 100's of lbs(dry) of green stuff in a few days. Ive turned conexes and whole buildings built for drying into dehydrators. Like u said... simple tek
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26937797 - 09/15/20 06:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Propane.
A wood burning stove pipe running up through the center of a room with lots of one way moving air might work too
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26937807 - 09/15/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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TedsDead said: I think its the fact that the heat and fan are piped in so they dont take the brunt of the hit when it comes to temp on the motors. Also seems like that they dont vent too much hot air out and let it escape on its own. Just my thouhts
You gave me an idea. I could pipe my exhaust fan and motor further away or even recirculate some of the exhaust back inside.
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I grew up with a wood burning stove in our basement and to heat our hunting cabins. you have to keep water on top of them or the air gets so fucking dry your nose will bleed.
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The specs on that big un I posted says it'll get up to 300F 
I dont think we need to reach 300F
I've thought about propane. I think on the whole tho as far as cost, propane be more expensive than elec?
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i'm a little bit the opposite of the above question. DIY dehydros actually make me scoff at the nice ones. You certainly have to get a few things right but it's stupid simple and stupid cheap. I've dropped some coin on nice ones and don't think i will ever again.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26937828 - 09/15/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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LotKid said: The specs on that big un I posted says it'll get up to 300F 
I dont think we need to reach 300F
I've thought about propane. I think on the whole tho as far as cost, propane be more expensive than elec?
ummmm, I'd say the opposite but maybe i'm just used to stupid high kwh prices. Around here (and anywhere else i've lived) gas is almost always cheaper
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Def would have to check local prices of both for a proper cost assessment.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
#26937919 - 09/15/20 07:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Small price to pay for quick turn around. Besides that my wife pays the utilities.

I like that its discreet too. Not big on the big glass viewing window advertising a mushroom showcase.
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Thats true manch. And yes I had considered recirculating air but havent needed to yet andnit would be humid air. Yes, diy makes me scoff at the pricy ones as well... your forevor paying for the engineering copywrite. I havent compared the kw hours but I havent needed to... heheheh... all the newer space heaters have a thermostat tho and running one everyday is only 100$ on your bill
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Grimsweeper said: Small price to pay for quick turn around. Besides that my wife pays the utilities.

I like that its discreet too. Not big on the big glass viewing window advertising a mushroom showcase.
Why you be having ppl that dont belong where they dont belong then?
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Saved for I shall make this once I get to the point where I need it! Thanks
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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Grimsweeper said: Small price to pay for quick turn around. Besides that my wife pays the utilities.

I like that its discreet too. Not big on the big glass viewing window advertising a mushroom showcase.
Why you be having ppl that dont belong where they dont belong then?
In a perfect world dude. Last of the kids are in HS now so it'll be a few years til I'm free to do as I please wherever I want to. I'm blessed to have as much space as I do. Wifey is cool AF.
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I was just takin a poke at the ole ribs is all. 
Cant go letting this place get too serious, now.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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Its cool. In a few weeks I have the whole house to myself for a week. I'm tearing down my room and starting over from scratch. Uniform Costco shelving from floor to ceiling on 3 walls. I'm tired of tripping over shit.
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Hellz yeah! Nothing like a good remodel to cleanse the soul and unclutter space & mind.
While youre at it you should add a plexi glass window to the front door of your dehydro. Ya know, spruce it up a lil. 
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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And the OCD. Uniformity is so satisfying. I can't even begin to say how many supplies I've thrown away just cause it doesn't match since I've started cult.
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nooo! I knew someone thatbwanted to toss x amount of tubs just because they werent the same look as the other tubs... practicality and performance over asthetics every time consumerist bs is what i hear... use, use, use!!!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
#26938418 - 09/16/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Doesnt match?
Does not... compute...
You mean like... "well this bowling ball doesnt seem to match up with the task of mush cult so, i better toss it."...?
That's what you mean?
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verum subsequentis said: i'm a little bit the opposite of the above question. DIY dehydros actually make me scoff at the nice ones. You certainly have to get a few things right but it's stupid simple and stupid cheap. I've dropped some coin on nice ones and don't think i will ever again.
That was my thinking as well, but I knew LK had the cabelas units so asked a leading question to see if he thought anything was superior in his experience using a pricey store bought one. However I am a consummate DIYer provided I am not shooting myself in the foot, because if it's truly worth it, I'll spend the coin on a better more efficient option, but with this I have thought and continue to think that DIY is plenty in the dehydrating department.
My first ghetto rigged bulk option is still in my sig lol, I outgrew the presto pretty much instantly and it was my solution to bulk it up
I am still kicking around design options for my next shot at a more legit dehydro
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said: Doesnt match?
Does not... compute...
You mean like... "well this bowling ball doesnt seem to match up with the task of mush cult so, i better toss it."...?
That's what you mean?
Not quite that bad. But I'll definitely phase out tubs with white lids to phase-in clear lids.
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LotKid said: Doesnt match?
Does not... compute...
You mean like... "well this bowling ball doesnt seem to match up with the task of mush cult so, i better toss it."...?
That's what you mean?
Not quite that bad. But I'll definitely phase out tubs with white lids to phase-in clear lids.
That's funny cause i used to use purely the clear lid blue latch 66qt tubs, now I almost exclusively use the white lid 58qt tubs.
@lot- propane is cheaper than electric if you have gas appliances in your home.
Here's a good wood fired dehydro

Basically a small house built over a wood stove with the pipe running up the center/back.
As much said wood stoves dry the air out so much theyll make your nose bleed
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IME with the white lids without the latches the bottom of the tubs aren't as sturdy and can sag the sub in the middle making it concave especially when stacking.
That's a beast of a dehydrator.
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Ya ive experienced that for sure but it happens with the 66qt for me too. I prefer the white because theyre cheap when bought in bulk. Ive gotten them for less than 5 dollars a tub shipped free from walmart before.
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verum subsequentis said: i'm a little bit the opposite of the above question. DIY dehydros actually make me scoff at the nice ones. You certainly have to get a few things right but it's stupid simple and stupid cheap. I've dropped some coin on nice ones and don't think i will ever again.
That was my thinking as well, but I knew LK had the cabelas units so asked a leading question to see if he thought anything was superior in his experience using a pricey store bought one. However I am a consummate DIYer provided I am not shooting myself in the foot, because if it's truly worth it, I'll spend the coin on a better more efficient option, but with this I have thought and continue to think that DIY is plenty in the dehydrating department.
My first ghetto rigged bulk option is still in my sig lol, I outgrew the presto pretty much instantly and it was my solution to bulk it up
I am still kicking around design options for my next shot at a more legit dehydro 
I've been through many dehydros. Built multiple of my own, used the standard little fuckers and have two of the big pro 160 liter ones. To this day the best dehydro (as far as amount dried in x amount of time) was one i made from card board boxes, a box fan and a space heater.
After buying my first cabellas and running it i void to not drop coin on another one and build a nice big diy. Problem is i ran into a shitload of things that needed dried and no more drying space. The time it would take to collect materials and assemble one wouldn't do so i ran to cabellas and grabbed another one. I don't regret it but i will not do it again.
One of the main things i like about the units i've made is that i can build the screens with 1 inch walls. This makes loading and unloading a breeze as i can just toss in a handful, shake to distribute and load.
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1" walls great idea.
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The 45 qt from costco have enforced lits that prevent the concave from happening. A bit smaller but you dont miss much in the yield
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: TedsDead]
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I dumped (5) 2-3 flush monos today and cut off 1400g of side/bottom fruit. They ain't pretty but clean. Thought I'd pass em of as something like enigma or some other mutant type name. Ideas?
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blue waffles?
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Grimsweeper said: I dumped (5) 2-3 flush monos today and cut off 1400g of side/bottom fruit. They ain't pretty but clean. Thought I'd pass em of as something like enigma or some other mutant type name. Ideas?
I just mix them in with the rest and keep it moving.
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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LK, i'm going to add "disassemble 160L" to the project list because now you have me extremely curious. It'll be a while before i get to it, but it'll be fun!
Grim, did you post this thread before? I could've sworn you posted it a few months ago, but this thread is only 8 days old. Am i a timetraveler?!
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: LotKid]
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Grimsweeper said: I dumped (5) 2-3 flush monos today and cut off 1400g of side/bottom fruit. They ain't pretty but clean. Thought I'd pass em of as something like enigma or some other mutant type name. Ideas?
I just mix them in with the rest and keep it moving.
This what I do as well.
So a 9 tray excalibur was on amazon for 50% off (warehouse deal, opened box) and I missed it,  I already own one and find it to be pretty efficient, just...small
Thinking I might build a dehydrator, see how it works. Would be nice to have something I Can fit more than 10lb wet into ...
Questions
Does the auto-turn off when the heater units get too hot affect you guys? Like, does the thing turn off intermittently when your unit gets to hot? I Think someone mentioned this and it would be nice to build something to account for this like having the heater outside the actual unit
How much hotter do the 1500W space heaters get than 160F if you crank them? Is an inkbird controller necessary?
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Re: DIY Dehydrator [Re: sh4d0ws]
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My cabinet has 2 doors, one below and the main door above.
I use the lower door as a carburetor to regulate airflow into the unit. The only time mine has ever shut off from overheating is when the lower door accidentally shuts all the way and air doesnt get pulled into the unit.
Doesnt happen often. I also have my heater laying down and it doesnt shut off
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Grimsweeper said: I dumped (5) 2-3 flush monos today and cut off 1400g of side/bottom fruit. They ain't pretty but clean. Thought I'd pass em of as something like enigma or some other mutant type name. Ideas?
I just mix them in with the rest and keep it moving.
I wouldn't make up names, that just kinda gunks things up. Remember when weed dealers would just make up crazy names with every new batch having zero idea what it was or it's origin? It was a shit show and nobody trusted anything they were told about strain or other characteristics as being anything other than made up marketing hype. As mush gains acceptance more and more across the country I think we would be well served to not muddy the waters. Just my two cents. Mush Love.
Like LK I just mix the funky ones in with the rest evenly distributed and keep it pushing. I have yet to run into the person that wants mush but turns it down because they look a certain way. Most just think the freaky looking ones must be extra trippy or something (not that I pass them off as such, but people's minds will do what they will).
As for the extreme/unrecognizable cases, like blobs for instance, I tell someone they are "lucky" to be getting the mutant version of this variety as they are mush less "common" lol, people like to feel like they are getting something exclusive so they are just as into the ugliest blob I can produce as they are about the perfect picturesque versions. It's all about how you frame it, but I still keep it honest on what strain it is and don't hype it up any more than to say "you don't usually see these, much less common, but I got you covered boss."
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You guys are on point about mixing the funk in with the regular ones I was pretty lit last night.
ML I think I did post one picture in tools of the trade a week or so before I finished it.
Sh4dows I haven't had any issue with the heater overheating. The heater is technically inside but it's in its own compartment with a hole cut out for the heat to blow/be pulled upward and away from it.
You could possibly get away with it without an inkbird but my wife was pretty annoyed fucking with the heater the first day I ran it and went to work. Set and forget baby.
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2 trays shy of filling this pup today
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Update - 10 #'s wet works pretty well in here for optimum speed but could probably double that without much difference. Just burned out my 4" inline (exhaust) fan yesterday after 6 months. Had a lot of mush on the pipeline so I bought a $20 50CFM bathroom fan to keep things going. Still thinking I may one day recirculate the exhaust into the bottom just to save on electricity. Seems like my only issue is 160 degree heat going through my exhaust motor and eventually burning it out.
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Nice. How many hours to fully dry that much?
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If I have it packed I don't bother checking it the same day. Harvesting 10 #'s is enough work for one day lol.
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Hi Grim,
Many thanks for the guidance. Was wondering what the function of the board on top of the heater with the hole for exhaust is. Is it necessary? May have bought one too few 4'x 8' boards.
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The purpose of that board is to keep the heater in its own chamber that isn't being heated.
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Horizontal fan/heat is superior to a bottom fan. On a bottom fan only the bottom racks will be warmed at first, the tops will be cool as a cucumber when it's stuffed and dry at a slower rate until the bottom racks are thoroughly dry and stop releasing their moisture.
1500 watts is low. A tiny little baby nesco has 600 watts. The Cabelas is 1500 or 1600 watts but that's as much as you can run on 120v normal 15a sockets. If you want to dry a lot, you want 240v power and something this size about 2500-3500 watts would be about right.
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This unit holds 15 lbs wet and dries it overnight on 120v.
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yea but thats just 1.5 lbs, a unit that size could probably do twice that easily or even more.
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verum subsequentis said: "overnight"? How many hours?
IDK really I don't bother checking until the following day. I unusually fill it in the evenings and empty it when I get home from work the next day. That fits my schedule.
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sandman420
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Sounds like about 20-24 hours. A powerful dehydrator with the watts to get up to temp fast can dry mushrooms in 6-8 hours. Just some tips for improvements. I also currently have a 120v homemade bottom-heat dehydrator while I'm rebuilding my 240v horizontal one, My 1500 watt 120v homemade dehydrator when stuffed full takes like 13 hours just to get to 140f because of the mass of water.
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I don't watch mine that closely but I do know it starts kicking off at 160F within a couple hours. I keep the temp sensor in the upper 1/3rd teirs.
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LotKid said:Anyone with a 160L store bought unit wanna tear it down and reassemble it? See what makes them tick?
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MLPismyOPSEC said: LK, i'm going to add "disassemble 160L" to the project list because now you have me extremely curious. It'll be a while before i get to it, but it'll be fun!
This is an ancient bump, but i'm a man of my word. Hope this helps any body else who wants to make their own dehydrator! At the very least it will serve to document how the Cabela's is built.
tl;dr the Cabela's 160L is basically a sheetmetal box, some spray foam insulation, a 1600W heater, and a fan. Plus lights, temp controller/probe, and a timer. Nothing real special about it!
 Didn't take a new front-on shot... Lol.


 Kinda cool how they punched the zipties through the back wall and through the foam.
 Didn't know before that it had a drip tray, so that's a bonus!





 Here's the "magic," not sure what else i expected, but just a good fan and a heating element. The fan blows the air up and through the die punched sheetmetal on the rear of the cabinet.
 Closeups of the heating element and fan, just for anyone curious on those details. As i'm posting this i realize i didn't take a picture of the sticker on the fan, damn! Zooming in on my phone, it shows "120V-60Hz 0.58(?)A 65W 2850ohms Class E" and that's all i can make out.


 Took off the top as well.

 Four screws to hold the control panel on.
 Pull the control panel forward, remove the gold door hinge, and then you can pull off the door. The door felt like it was most of the weight, and it turns out it was about half! 24 lbs for the door alone, 34 lbs for the everything else.
 Thing was thrown together with some plain old sheetmetal screws, not even self tappers. Probably didn't even predrill holes, just fuckin sent em.
Not a huge fan of where they placed the power cord coming out of the back, being right in the middle of the hot exhaust. Could have easily drilled a hole closer to the corner to keep it away from there. Hell, i could fix that lol.
With everything on the interior being aluminum, which transfers heat very easily, i wonder how well the channel + air holes help to evenly distribute the heat. Being that the exhaust is passive and can only evacuate so much volume, it probably holds the heat well enough to dehydrate evenly.
Edited by MLPismyOPSEC (01/29/22 04:25 PM)
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