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Pink Oysters ready for harvest??
    #26924703 - 09/08/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I was pretty sure from the way these took off that they would be ready to harvest this morning from the looks last night. They seem to be getting a bit bigger and the caps slightly folding down. Do the caps need to be alittle more overcurved down like they are showing before harvest?
Or Is this harvest stage??
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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26924823 - 09/08/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

:bigyesnod:

Looks ready to me.  Nice yields!


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26924849 - 09/08/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you!! Compared to the first bag I tried the other month with the top cut off, these worked a ton better๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26924955 - 09/08/20 04:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What culture is that you have?


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26924985 - 09/08/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not exactly sure.. I bought my 4 culture syringes from sporeworks. I emailed them to see if they knew the specific strain but didnt get an answer.

I'd really love to learn more about specific cultures/strains I get. I just recently bought 4 syringes from myers and earth Angel's mushrooms of commercial syringes, I think I noticed two of them had the specific  culture, like blue oyster amycel 3015 if I'm correct? So I'm not sure about the pinks I got from sporeworks.. still learning about all of this.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26925020 - 09/08/20 05:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If it's from Sporeworks I just call it the Sporeworks culture.  It's whatever one he found, he couldn't resell it to us if it were say, an aloha culture or whatever. 

That's a really good culture it looks like, I've never got pinks to look anything like that but I only worked with one culture.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26925041 - 09/08/20 05:28 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Okay, that is starting to make sense to me now. I'm really glad to hear and also personally see that this pink oyster culture I have is doing good.

Not trying to dive in too deep.. but how do you even go about figuring out the specific culture of a mushroom? Besides actually buying a blue oyster 3015, if that makes sense... I'm going to oregon in october to forage, and would love to know this part of mycology. Also, all the Lions mane I have been growing and drying to make extracted powder and tincture, how do I go about testing the medicinal compounds and that? Maybe there is threads for this!


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26925534 - 09/09/20 12:02 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I really need some pinks in my life...


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26925660 - 09/09/20 02:55 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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but how do you even go about figuring out the specific culture of a mushroom? Besides actually buying a blue oyster 3015, if that makes sense...




There's nothing to figure out.  It's just a culture someone has grown and found to be a good producer or whatever, than they then gave a name to.  If you grew from spore and isolated and tested a culture you liked, you could name it whatever you wanted to and trade it by that name.  The popular ones you see going around are usually just put out by a trusted company.

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Also, all the Lions mane I have been growing and drying to make extracted powder and tincture, how do I go about testing the medicinal compounds and that?




There's probably labs you can send stuff in to, but I've never had anything tested so can't help there :shrug:


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26925764 - 09/09/20 06:33 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If it's from Sporeworks I just call it the Sporeworks culture.  It's whatever one he found, he couldn't resell it to us if it were say, an aloha culture or whatever. 

That's a really good culture it looks like, I've never got pinks to look anything like that but I only worked with one culture.




I thought aloha allowed you to distribute their cultures, or did I misunderstand their policy?

Beautiful pinks tho!!


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #26925789 - 09/09/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you!๐Ÿ™๐Ÿผ


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26925853 - 09/09/20 08:08 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'd also love to ask for any tips on storing pink oyster cultures? I know with them most likely dying off in the fridge, as well as being such a novelty strain, is there any good techniques I can use to save the culture I have for storage?


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26925937 - 09/09/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Slants?  Or a regular schedule of making lc..ya know, make some clean lc with what you have, use said lc until you start to run low,then grab some pretty fruits and repeat


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Harry Manbach]
    #26925960 - 09/09/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

LC is smart... I have yet to make LC, just slants and plates.. I will have to do some LC.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26926270 - 09/09/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

As far as initiating fruiting like that, did you just slice a line in the side of a colonized grain bag and put it in the tent to initiate fruiting?

I have a new martha tent build, and I have a grain bag of pinks from sporeworks about 4 days into colonization, and I hope mine end up looking like yours!!


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: madyogi]
    #26926544 - 09/09/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That sounds awesome! I also got my pinks from them! So did you get the pink oyster grain spawn??

With these pinks above in my pictures, I colonized the grain spawn, and then transferred the grain spawn to 5lb substrate block, and they colonized in 5 days.

To answer the pinning question, once my substrate blocks were fully colonized, I made one single slit in the front side of each bag, and set them in the tent! It took maybe 3 days to see the pins, and after I saw them they doubled everyday, and 4 days after the pin set was harvest time.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26926613 - 09/09/20 03:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Powfuu said:
but how do you even go about figuring out the specific culture of a mushroom? Besides actually buying a blue oyster 3015, if that makes sense...




There's nothing to figure out.  It's just a culture someone has grown and found to be a good producer or whatever, than they then gave a name to.  If you grew from spore and isolated and tested a culture you liked, you could name it whatever you wanted to and trade it by that name.  The popular ones you see going around are usually just put out by a trusted company.

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Also, all the Lions mane I have been growing and drying to make extracted powder and tincture, how do I go about testing the medicinal compounds and that?




There's probably labs you can send stuff in to, but I've never had anything tested so can't help there :shrug:




The naming of culture strains maybe so simple it's just going over my head, my apologies... so I get if I were to forage and find some, take the spores and save the culture, that all makes sense. As an example, with the sporeworks cultures they sell, since they technically dont have a strain name, could those spores be collected from a fruit body if a really good strain to save and name it? Or since I bought it from the trusted company sporeworks, like you said, it's already just `sporeworks culture's?
Thank you for sharing this knowledge with me.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26926848 - 09/09/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry I can't figure out exactly what you're asking :confused:


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Forrester]
    #26926936 - 09/09/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

My apologies... If I were to harvest a lions mane in the wild, and grow it good at home, I can collect the spores, save that culture and then name it correct?

But with this pink oyster culture I have from sporeworks, I wouldn't be able to name this culture, because it came from a trusted supplier, correct? I hope that makes sense.. I just remember you telling me you would call it sporeworks culture


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26928031 - 09/10/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That sounds awesome! I also got my pinks from them! So did you get the pink oyster grain spawn??

With these pinks above in my pictures, I colonized the grain spawn, and then transferred the grain spawn to 5lb substrate block, and they colonized in 5 days.

To answer the pinning question, once my substrate blocks were fully colonized, I made one single slit in the front side of each bag, and set them in the tent! It took maybe 3 days to see the pins, and after I saw them they doubled everyday, and 4 days after the pin set was harvest time.




Really nice!  I got the syringe from sporeworks and inoculated a 3 lb grain spawn bag I got from Midwest Grow Kits.  I'm about 4 days out from injection, so I have some weeks left before transferring the spawn.

Where did you get your substrate and how exactly did you make the transfer?


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26928335 - 09/10/20 01:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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My apologies... If I were to harvest a lions mane in the wild, and grow it good at home, I can collect the spores, save that culture and then name it correct?

But with this pink oyster culture I have from sporeworks, I wouldn't be able to name this culture, because it came from a trusted supplier, correct? I hope that makes sense.. I just remember you telling me you would call it sporeworks culture




There's several issues to address here, let me do my best...

If you took a lion's mane from the wild, and cloned it, that would be a culture.  You could name it LM2000 or whatever.

If you collect spores from it, you are not getting that culture.  Those spores you collect will produce different cultures.  So no, collecting spores has nothing to do with saving a culture.

If you collected spores from your Sporeworks culture of pinks, and grew them, you could do whatever you want with those cultures.  They just won't be the same as the culture you're growing now.  They'll be genetic luck of the draw, maybe good, maybe not, but not the culture you're growing now.


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: madyogi]
    #26933715 - 09/13/20 04:13 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That sounds awesome! I also got my pinks from them! So did you get the pink oyster grain spawn??

With these pinks above in my pictures, I colonized the grain spawn, and then transferred the grain spawn to 5lb substrate block, and they colonized in 5 days.

To answer the pinning question, once my substrate blocks were fully colonized, I made one single slit in the front side of each bag, and set them in the tent! It took maybe 3 days to see the pins, and after I saw them they doubled everyday, and 4 days after the pin set was harvest time.




Really nice!  I got the syringe from sporeworks and inoculated a 3 lb grain spawn bag I got from Midwest Grow Kits.  I'm about 4 days out from injection, so I have some weeks left before transferring the spawn.

Where did you get your substrate and how exactly did you make the transfer?





That's awesome you got your pink oyster syringe from them as well! I love midwest, I haven't used there grain bags, but alot of other products! Out of curiosity, with it being almost a week since you inoculated the 3lb grain bag with that syringe, how is it looking!?

But to answer your question on the next step, when your grain bag is fully colonized.. I started to buy the 'masters mix', it is 50% sawdust pellets, and 50% soy hull pellets. You can find the masters mix in bags online for a decent price.
With the 20 lbs bags I bought, it gave me a recipe for 5lb fruiting bags, 5 cups (2lbs of the pellets) and 1.4 liters of water (3lbs. You will also need bags with the filter patch, probably similar to the one your grains are in. I use 5-7 lbs bags from Myers mushrooms.
You simply measure out the 2 pounds of pellets directly into the bag on a scale, or cup measured, then you add the water directly in the bag, the water will absorb the entire bag within a few minutes. I dont mix it that much at all now, unless there is a dry spot. You then need to sterilize the bags, by pressure cooking them for atleast 1 hour and 30 minutes. After the bags are all soaked, I crease the top and side of the bag down to release all of the air, and I tuck the top of the bag down the side/to bottom, and fold about an inch and a half or so at the end of the bag, once in the pressure cooker this will make a temporary seal.

After the bags have steralized, and cooled. You need to have a very sterile room, hopefully you have a still air box you can work in, or a flow hood. You can open the bags, and use about 4 oz of your colonized grain spawn, or a cup, or even alittle more if you want. I believe on some mushrooms adding to much can mutate the mushrooms. I like to use 1 cup of grain spawn in my 5lb bag. Once you get the spawn in the bag as quick as possible, you can impulse seal the bag, or zip tie the top, but make sure you have air in the bag. After its sealed, shake the bag really good, making sure you mix the spawn around.

Hopefully this all made sense, and I hope I didnt add too much information you already knew!๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿผ


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Re: Pink Oysters ready for harvest?? [Re: Powfuu]
    #26940890 - 09/17/20 03:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That's great info, thanks Powfuu!!

Those spawn bags aren't moving much at all, which is unfortunate.  Not sure if it's the room I have them in or what.  I just have them in a corner of a closet, where the temperature moves quite a bit, from maybe 70F at night to 77F during the day.  Seems like a decent range for colonization, but maybe too much swing?

I have been getting into agar, and there's no doubt my Pink Oyster spores are slow spreaders.  I have a Blue Oyster CULTure on agar that has almost overrun the plate, but my Pink Oyster plate only has two small dots starting.  I inoculated both plates on 9/12, so five days ago.  Both syringes were from sporeworks.


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