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Frank Zappotecorum
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Re: Chiroprators... [Re: feevers] 1
#26920964 - 09/06/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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From what I know, the foundations of chiropractics are complete pseudoscience or non-science, but some people allege that it truly helps them. I heard a spine surgeon's perspective on chiropractic, I think in this video and I thought his "Surgery as a last resort" perspective is a good idea. That said, I agree Blewmeanie when he says you should go for a massage before an adjustment. People have definitely died from botched chiropractic https://www.acsh.org/news/2016/10/20/if-you-think-chiropractors-cant-kill-you-think-again-10334 is one such case.
So if you do go to one, make sure they have stellar reviews. But that said I would not encourage it.
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Anyone thinking about visiting a chiropractor should really read up on the history first, particularly Daniel David Palmer, the guy that created it. They've done a good job of propagandizing it to make it seem like medicine, but it was straight up quasi-magical fraud from the very beginning. There's no basis to it what-so-ever.
Get an ugly asian girl to beat the fuck out of your back. You'll feel great afterwards. Massages are amazing, and you might get a blowie out of it if you pick the right place (leave $75 splayed out on the table next to your stuff when you get undressed).
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Tripsurfer
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Re: Chiroprators... [Re: Patlal]
#26922450 - 09/07/20 05:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have been to a chiropractor for my lower back hernia
It helped but I wasn't amazed by it either. I think I could have gotten the same results from a good physical therapist
The thing that put me off the most was the cost. Here only a small percentage falls under the health insurance package as its labeled an alternative healing method. Physical therapy is fully covered.
You pay like €75 a session with about €25 of that covered by insurance. Now in itself Im fine with that but after the first long session, a session is basically 10 minutes of doing some cracks on my back
Just feels like im getting cheated
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Jailbird420
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I've been using a Chiropractor for over 20 years and would NEVER go back to an MD for my back issues.
My right leg is about 19mm shorter than my left leg. This causes serious issues in my spine. I can have pain anywhere from my hips to my neck because of this.
Before I realized what the problem was I would go see my MD and he would give me muscle relaxers that didn't really help. Then one day my back spasmed out so bad while in the shower that I needed someone to lay hands on me, so I scheduled my first appointment with the local chiropractor. I walked out of his office like a new man and have been seeing him ever since.
So, if you're having back pain, I would highly recommend going to see one.
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Shiithead
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Wow 20 years and you still arn't better? Sounds like you're being taken for a ride.
Just kidding lol. You should see the work they do on patients with scoliosis. It's miraculous.
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Jailbird420
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I have mild scoliosis due to my short leg.
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Tripsurfer
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Wouldnt you be helped by adding 19mm to your shoesole?
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Jailbird420
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When my chiropractor first told me about the short leg, we did try a small 3mm heel lift. He even told me that some people adjust to the heel lift better than others, and there was no guarantee it would help me.
The issue lies in the fact that I was already 30 years old when it was discovered. I had been very physically abusive to my body (lots of hard manual labor) and because of this my skeletal structure had tried to make its own adjustments and produced bone spurs in many of my major joints.
The first bone spur was found by a podiatrist in my heel.
I actually had to have one bone spur in my shoulder shaved down about 10 years after learning about the short leg. It was tearing my rotator cuff and causing a LOT of pain.
Now, had this been discovered while I was younger, say in my late teens or early twenties, and given an orthopedic shoe then, I wouldn't be dealing with this issue now.
I wore the 3mm heel lift for about three months and had to give it up, it made the issue far worse, due to the already present bone spurs throughout my body.
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Re: Chiroprators... [Re: Patlal]
#26924757 - 09/08/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never been to one. It's worth noting that chiropractors are not required to have a doctorate to practice. In other words, chiropractors are not necessarily medical doctors. There are probably some chiropractors who have doctorate degrees, maybe even some who are medical doctors. However, you should know that this isn't a requirement. So, first of all, if you're going to see a chiropractor, it might be worth looking into their credentials.
Second of all, I'll ask a question: if you're going to go see a chiropractor because you have a back problem, why not just go see a medical doctor instead? About eight years ago, I suffered a pretty rough back injury. I went to a physical therapist at the hospital in my town. She had a medical school degree, which (I assume) required her to have an understanding of the human body. She assessed my problem and then taught me a routine of stretches to practice regularly. I practiced the stretches on my own as instructed, and my problem slowly got better. These days, I don't have to do the stretches anymore (I still stretch, but I don't need to stick to the same rigorous routine that I learned after my injury). In other words, my back problem is basically cured. Thus far, I haven't had to see her again for that same issue.
Finally, I'll end with an anecdote, so take this last point with a grain of salt. Everyone I know who has seen a chiropractor has had to go multiple times for the same issue. In other words, it doesn't seem like it's a permanent solution. It seems like, to a certain extent, the chiropractor's business depends on your need to return for regular maintenance. You could go to a chiropractor every few months to get your back fixed up, but why not instead get a foam roller and a yoga mat and start a daily stretch routine? It takes a little more work, but it's a lot cheaper and it's a permanent solution. Besides, after a while, stretching doesn't really feel like work anymore. It's fun! It's never to late to start stretching, and the sooner you begin doing it, the sooner your back will improve.
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Shiithead
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Medical Doctors = Chiropractor if MD takes more Anatomy and DC takes more drug physiology.
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